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- mohaine, on 11/04/2009, -3/+33Good. I really hope USB dies the painful death it deserves.
Please replace it with something that uses the same connector on both ends and a decent protocol so you can connect any two devices to each other. - AnthonyJr, on 11/04/2009, -0/+27Intel's push for the readying of LightPeak?
- wilhoitm, on 11/04/2009, -1/+23What you are hoping for is LightPeak! Intel is sponsoring it and it will kill USB 3.0!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_Peak - JumboJ3t, on 11/04/2009, -0/+22This will certainly slow market adoption. But for the hardware enthusiasts out there: can you say PCIe card?
- ElCamello, on 11/04/2009, -0/+15This is surely going to affect laptops the most, since Intel has a massive advantage in that market and the addition of USB 3.0 will be more difficult to integrate than on a desktop. Disappointing news really. I was hoping DisplayLink would take advantage of all this extra bandwidth, but if market adoption is so low then it seems unlikely.
- TheUngod, on 11/04/2009, -0/+13The main problem I see here is that until Intel integrates USB 3 into its chipset, manufacturers will not make many devices supporting it. It will be strictly enthusiast until then, and prohibitively expensive.
- askantik, on 11/04/2009, -0/+10This might help AMD/ATI in the laptop sector.
- Mejari, on 11/04/2009, -0/+9Wasn't it Intel that has a whole commercial talking about how they have the engineer who "invented" USB?
- wilhoitm, on 11/04/2009, -0/+8The 2010 release of new Macs will probably include LightPeak since Apple proposed the idea to Intel.
- wonnk13, on 11/04/2009, -0/+7lightpeak must be the real deal if they're willing to take a gamble like this.
- mkriss5681, on 11/04/2009, -0/+7I stand corrected. The more I read about Lightpeak, the more kick ass it sounds. Maybe Intel is doing the right thing by delaying it.
- HamNCheese, on 11/04/2009, -0/+7You mean PCIe.
Nobody considering USB anything wants PCI-X cards. - UselessTrivia, on 11/04/2009, -2/+8Let me interpret these statements:
USB Sucks, but everything worth using is on USB, so I really want USB's future competition to be backwards compatible with those devices and look identical to USB in every way so I can keep using my USB devices which I use only grudgingly because as I've stated previously, USB totally sucks.
Boy that'll show em. - UselessTrivia, on 11/04/2009, -1/+7They're finally going to implement Conan O'Brian's jub jub gravy hole instead.
- EddiePotato, on 11/04/2009, -0/+5My thought as well, and I hope that's the case, providing they've settled on bundling copper with the cabling for power. The form factor has the potential to scale much farther into the future than USB.
- GoldenChaos, on 11/04/2009, -0/+4Lightpeak will have copper in it. Intel has said it will charge your devices.
- harvinator24, on 11/04/2009, -0/+4USB 3.0 can downgrade to 2.0 though. So hopefully that will give some incentive for companies to release their hardware at the faster speed.
- wilhoitm, on 11/04/2009, -0/+4Here is the LightPeak demo from the Intel IDF2009 conference.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khPx1dEIPnA - neonfish7, on 11/05/2009, -0/+4USB 3.0, LightPeak, SATA 6Gbit/s? I won't notice the difference because of ***** 5400rpm hard drives anyway.
All I want is cheap SSD's and my current hardware will finally run at full speed. - fuzzynyanko, on 11/04/2009, -0/+3True, but at the same time, Intel's slow adoption would make USB 3.0's universal adoption take that much longer. I forget if Macs use Intel chipsets
- EddiePotato, on 11/04/2009, -0/+3It's so awesome. It has the potential replace USB, Firewire, TOSLINK, and DVI in one swoop. And can be run a loooong way.
- ElCamello, on 11/04/2009, -0/+3Yeah the nVidia x86 rumours won't go away, mainly due to the perception that they basically have to do a CPU to remain competitive now that AMD/ATI are one and Intel are moving in to the GPU sector. NV had a brief dalliance with VIA, but then realised VIA doesn't have enough clout. Expect to see more mobile related stuff (e.g. Tegra partnered with ARM chips) and maybe an x86 mobile processor (for smartphones et al). I doubt they'll hit the mainstream desktop, laptop CPU market, at least not straightaway.
- jeremanrox, on 11/04/2009, -0/+3I'm pretty hyped about the bonuses of usb 3.0 for things like flash and external drives. right now tho, eSATA gives good speed for external drives. I for one will not be one of those early adapters.
- superal1394, on 11/04/2009, -1/+4Intel is going to push Lightpeak hard I think. I know one of the lead researchers at Intel's photonics lab, and he says that Intel believes fiber optic connections internally and externally on computers is going to be the future.
That said I think Apple will pressure Intel to add USB 3.0 ASAP, Apple won't want to appear behind the curve. - ampdj89, on 11/05/2009, -0/+2Light > Copper.
- matt.rubin, on 11/04/2009, -0/+2No problem, just buy asus boards with already have 3rd party usb 3 ports. Then they are selling the USB 3 cards for 40 bucks.
- AlyxVance, on 11/04/2009, -0/+2weird, I was actually just going to google usb 3.0 because I want to build a new computer and was curious as to how long I would have to wait for this. I'm not waiting that long though.
I guess I can always get a PCI-X add in card if I have to. - Tenoq, on 11/05/2009, -0/+2@ linksus:
What the?
Fibre optics are very durable these days: even when you're talking about high-speed networking over long distances. It's not the old fragile, can't-touch-it fibre of old. People managed with Toslink/optical cables - they'll manage with Lightpeak.
Doesn't matter what you give them ultimately - some morons will find a way to break it. It's pretty much a weekly routine for me to fix/disable a mashed USB port that's shorting out because someone has tried to plug a screwdriver into the USB port (or maybe a USB cable upside-down...). - SONYDVDR, on 11/04/2009, -0/+2http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009 ...
- WoollyMittens, on 11/06/2009, -0/+2The OCZ Vertex ones are pretty nice and affordable.
- matt.rubin, on 11/05/2009, -0/+2hell yah asus is hands down best mobo manufacture.
- damnshoes, on 11/04/2009, -0/+2
- HamNCheese, on 11/04/2009, -3/+5> Please replace it with something that uses the same connector on both ends and a decent protocol so you can connect any two devices to each other.
Like firewire? - MeccaYdna, on 11/05/2009, -0/+2hell, buy ASUS boards anyway....this is just another reason why they're well worth the money!
- sanman, on 11/04/2009, -0/+1http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jht ...
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-transmeta- ... - ElCamello, on 11/04/2009, -0/+1It could definitely help AMD/ATI in the laptop sector, but it still has a long way to go. AMD's mobile processors are still underpowered and power hungry in comparison to Intel's, though the recent Congo netbook platform and associated processors were a big improvement.
- sanman, on 11/04/2009, -1/+2I read a rumor that Nvidia is working on making its own x86 processor, to hold its own against Intel and AMD, since those guys are now venturing into graphics processing. Any diggers have any further light to shed on that?
Nvidia's bias is towards higher-latency higher-throughput, since that's what their main investment in graphics processing gives them. So I'd assume they'd tailor their own CPU to cater to the benefits of this. - neonfish7, on 11/06/2009, -0/+1The 30GB ones. Yes, I have one in my netbook. 190 USD where I live. The speed is nowhere near the limits for SATA 3Gb/s though.
120GB and more – too expensive. - eljitto, on 11/04/2009, -2/+3This is AMD's chance to get back in the game.
They'd, of course, use some ATI cards and probably lead proccessors for a few years - DJKWOK, on 11/04/2009, -0/+1The real Ajay Bhatt: http://www.intel.com/pressroom/kits/bios/abhatt.ht ...
- tastypastry, on 11/05/2009, -0/+1I was in the same boat as you Mkriss, even down to the SSD.
- ephemeral, on 11/05/2009, -0/+1Until cameras, external hard drives, and other pluggable devices support USB 3, it won't matter what motherboard has it. What are you going to plug into it?
- Cyborg326, on 11/05/2009, -0/+1I was putting off getting a mac hoping that Apple would introduce USB 3.0 sometime in early 2010. Not sure what I'll do now...
This lightpeak sounds interesting though. - WoollyMittens, on 11/06/2009, -0/+1They're abusing their monopoly to delay USB 3, until their own propriatary Lightpeak technology is done.
- mkriss5681, on 11/04/2009, -3/+3Bah. I was hoping to build a new Win7 PC with an I7, SSD, and USB3.0 in 2010. I guess 2 out 3 is not bad. It just sucks I'll have to get a PCI card for USB 3.0. Hopefully the motherboard manufactures get it dine sooner than later. If AMD gets it together before hand, I might jump ship.
- linksus, on 11/04/2009, -2/+2I REALLLLY dont trust fiber tech in the hands of the public.
They can barely handle normal copper cables.
Hand them fibers and they wonder why if they stand on it or drop it in some water etc that it wont work again.
Everyone will need bloody fiber cleaning kits.
Im all up for fiber, but it must be integrated into stuff that people just cannot touch.
They they need to be able to NOT need cleaning ever. - damnshoes, on 11/04/2009, -1/+1if you jump ship there might be sharks or jellyfish.
- Stalks, on 11/04/2009, -1/+1The device can have a tiny solar charger in to charge. :P
- KMartSheriff, on 11/05/2009, -1/+1Alright, noisymime. We get it. You're anti-Intel/Apple/LightPeak/ whatever. You've posted that like 6 times now.
Too bad for you because LightPeak is actually pretty awesome. USB has been great, but needs to be replaced. -
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