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- wikinerd, on 09/05/2009, -0/+109Since when did the artist's opinion came into the Music Industry's consideration?
- deepak1uw, on 09/05/2009, -0/+80It’s all about the money, and never about the music.
- 5ean, on 09/05/2009, -1/+64***** the RIAA!
- Fhwqhgads, on 09/05/2009, -0/+51Same *****, different country.
***** em all! - Smyley, on 09/06/2009, -0/+32It's like the RIAA is "protecting" people that don't want to be protected.
- spatty, on 09/05/2009, -0/+31good to hear. Whether or not this changes things is a completely different matter...
- squelched, on 09/06/2009, -2/+32the same way you're comment is just a tiny fraction of spoken words?? shut the ***** up
- everyunitone, on 09/05/2009, -0/+22Why?
*honest question. - killdashnine, on 09/06/2009, -0/+19When the artists boycott the RIAA, that's when things will get better.
- eibiee, on 09/05/2009, -1/+19Sorry to sound like an ass, but it's not really RIAA if it's in the UK.
- talonh, on 09/06/2009, -0/+16Buried for making a comment that yet again proves you should remove the anti from your name
- 5ean, on 09/05/2009, -0/+15"***** the RIAA!" is always relevant to a torrent freak article on digg. But you're correct, so a digg for you.
- skinturtle, on 09/05/2009, -1/+14This is the thing about DIGG. Many come here and give these opinions on issues but really are just repeating small phrases that they seen somewhere else on the internet. It's the same for any other issue presented on DIGG..whether it be science, religion, politics, lifestyle..etc.
Otherwise yes...screw the big labels!! - bipolarruledout, on 09/06/2009, -0/+13Maybe when they start leaving labels in mass. But then that's already happening so perhaps your point still stands.
- Lucid00, on 09/06/2009, -0/+12Still irrelevant though.
- portnoy, on 09/06/2009, -0/+12This is insane! If they don't put all the music fans in prison how can they be assured of having a captive audience????
- Smyley, on 09/06/2009, -0/+11What is freenet protocol?
- wikinerd, on 09/06/2009, -0/+10Of course, that "protecting" consists of mainly ripping off the artists themselves, forcing their fans into higher prices, and suing the ***** out of anyone who doesn't follow their "mob rule".
- Artology, on 09/05/2009, -0/+9artists and fans unite..... lets start a riot... ***** the RIAA!
- mabsark, on 09/06/2009, -0/+8The PEOPLE have spoken, if you don't like that, then get the ***** out of Britain, and goto corporation America.
- pigfister, on 09/06/2009, -0/+7for the people that don't know and the corporate bloggers that say the RIAA is the USA not the UK the BPI is exactly the same ass hats.
RIAA, CRIA, SOUNDEXCHANGE, BPI, IFPI, Ect:
# Sony BMG Music Entertainment
# Warner Music Group
# Universal Music Group
# EMI
MPAA, MPA, FACT, AFACT, Ect:
# Sony Pictures
# Warner Bros. (Time Warner)
# Universal Studios (NBC Universal)
# The Walt Disney Company
# 20th Century Fox (News Corporation)
# Paramount Pictures Viacom—(DreamWorks owners since February 2006) - denizen42, on 09/06/2009, -0/+6This is steadily getting old, the real question seems to be: why doesn't this culture change?
- SkittlesUSA, on 09/05/2009, -2/+8That is really cool for those artists, but they don't speak for all musicians. If you want to give away music for free, I'm all for that. If you don't want to give it away for free, then you should be able to make that decision also.
- Wooodles, on 09/06/2009, -0/+6It's standard practice in politics to claim its for the people's protection (benefit, safety, well-being, etc...), but its almost always for money (power, control, etc...).
- blacklilyninja, on 09/06/2009, -0/+6hey artists guess who doesn't care if you have an opinion?
let me give you a hint.... its not your audience. - inactive, on 09/06/2009, -0/+5Yet, you make a grand assumption that you aren't stupid.
- KPolulak, on 09/06/2009, -0/+5While I feel the same way about corporations such as the RIAA and the MPAA, do try to act a little more sophisticated. You can't expect anyone to take you seriously with an attitude like that.
- Atario, on 09/06/2009, -0/+5"Protection money" is a time-tested tactic for people like this. It's nothing new to the Music And Film Industry Associations (MAFIA).
- 3242130193, on 09/05/2009, -0/+5Musicians are a great weapon against the recording industry. With their influence, they have a great chance of convincing their fans to circumvent the businesspeople. True, the RIAA could hire more puppet artists to back them up, but real artists with a solid fan base could start to turn the tide; so if the RIAA doesn't have copy rights to legitimate music, they can't sue for infringement.
- inactive, on 09/06/2009, -0/+4That kind of attitude is satisfying though.
- inactive, on 09/06/2009, -0/+4Pointless. Freenet is useful because it's almost impossible to censor, but at the moment it's mostly good for text. I can't imagine trying to do any real piracy on the Freenet, the speed is simply too slow.
And torrents are becoming more and more distributed. TPB's (eventual) closure is a blessing in disguise. It'll force an evolution in the way bittorrent works. Even now, most of the torrents I've grabbed in the last few months have had about 5 or 6 trackers, as opposed to before when they would usually only use TPB and denis.stalker. Hopefully the protocol evolves too to become totally decentralized. DHT is a start. - lemur, on 09/06/2009, -0/+4There is an inherent problem with punishing fans, because while music is just some random think to make money off of for some people (the RIAA), for artists it's not like that. Sure, artists would like to make money from their work, but people who want big money can do a lot of easier and more lucrative things than create music. They do music because it is meaningful to them and bring them enjoyment, and a major component of that enjoyment and meaning has a lot to do with sharing it with others. Disconnecting someone from the Internet nowadays is akin to ruining their life, and it must really hurt a musician to see the lives of people ruined simply for sharing that sacred bond between musician and listener.
- iFrix, on 09/06/2009, -0/+3I see what you did there...
- cosy18, on 09/06/2009, -0/+2AndroidHell true but there is not only text and now freenet allow you to connect to 40 different nodes(node=servers) and downloading vids is faster
- PirateD00D, on 09/08/2009, -0/+2*Picks up picture of family*
"That's a nice looking family ya got there. Shame if anything happened to them..." - zer0mass, on 09/06/2009, -0/+2I've been able to get a series of large videos on freenet in about the same amount of time it takes on bittorrent. The only problem is a lack of users to distribute the data. I've had a few files that can't be completed because no one has the remaining chucks of the file. Then again BT is subject to this as well.
- pigfister, on 09/06/2009, -0/+2i will add money for the corporations not that artists!
lets not for get who is actually behind the MPAA - RIAA, these are the companies that need to be targeted and boycotted into changing their ways, purchase only 2nd hand media and do not purchase anything branded sony, why allow the fecktards to dictate hardware DRM anymore.
Name and shame the companies as all the **AA trade group name is for is to protect the f'ing corporatism, globalist wankers from bad press.
RIAA, CRIA, SOUNDEXCHANGE, BPI, IFPI, Ect:
# Sony BMG Music Entertainment
# Warner Music Group
# Universal Music Group
# EMI
MPAA, MPA, FACT, AFACT, Ect:
# Sony Pictures
# Warner Bros. (Time Warner)
# Universal Studios (NBC Universal)
# The Walt Disney Company
# 20th Century Fox (News Corporation)
# Paramount Pictures Viacom—(DreamWorks owners since February 2006)
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If sony payola (google it) wasn't bad enough to destroy indie competition you have this:
Is it justified to steal from thieves? READ ON.
RIAA Claims Ownership of All Artist Royalties For Internet Radio
http://slashdot.org/articles/07/04/29/0335224.shtm ...
"With the furor over the impending rate hike for Internet radio stations, wouldn't a good solution be for streaming internet stations to simply not play RIAA-affiliated labels' music and focus on independent artists? Sounds good, except that the RIAA's affiliate organization SoundExchange claims it has the right to collect royalties for any artist, no matter if they have signed with an RIAA label or not. 'SoundExchange (the RIAA) considers any digital performance of a song as falling under their compulsory license. If any artist records a song, SoundExchange has the right to collect royalties for its performance on Internet radio. Artists can offer to download their music for free, but they cannot offer their songs to Internet radio for free ... So how it works is that SoundExchange collects money through compulsory royalties from Webcasters and holds onto the money. If a label or artist wants their share of the money, they must become a member of SoundExchange and pay a fee to collect their royalties.'"
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/4/24/141326 ... - inactive, on 09/06/2009, -0/+22010 = don't buy a single cd or pay for a movie from the "big boys" year.
- inactive, on 09/06/2009, -0/+1Interesting. I'll have to check it out. I do think there's a lot of potential in Freenet, and I'm actually hoping that it becomes as popular as the regular internet, but I had thought that the speed thing was a crippling factor.
- r3bol, on 09/06/2009, -0/+1http://www.google.com/cse?cx=002683415331144861350 ...
- inactive, on 09/06/2009, -6/+7To the RIAA:
Eat a ***** dick you ass backward jabroni ***** faces - Charmainelim, on 09/05/2009, -2/+3Pirating also happen offline not just online. I guess the offline pirating are more severe.
- Kashey, on 09/07/2009, -0/+1Lets make record business structure clear. You're are just Joe Blow. You've done a demo and record label likes it. They decide to give you a record loan. Usually this is a last money that you will see from them. The sum is about 100.000+$. It's a loan that you have to pay back in record sales. Plus they promote you. Do a web design for you. Give access to their in house musicians and studios. For any business getting even is not an option. You need to make a profit. Right now the music business structure (AND YES MUSIC IS A BUSINESS!!) is shifting very much. For about 10.000$ you can build a good studio @ home. You can promote very well on the net.I know many bands that make a good living as a indi. I'm not blaming record labels. I'm blaming old-farty mentality of bosses. Dudes it's 2009 and NOT 1978! Don't you think you need to retire!
- cosy18, on 09/05/2009, -3/+4ppl should quit torrents and move to freenet protocol
- tyne101101, on 09/07/2009, -0/+1If musicians are afraid that some type of punishment will be put in place against their own fans, could they chose to go to a different music label where music is not restricted by the RIAA?????
- computershack, on 09/07/2009, -1/+2And in order not to be a hypocrite, don't download any of their music from pirate sites either...
- aathena, on 09/11/2009, -0/+0Props to the artists supporting this! I honestly feel sorry for whomever is currently attempting to mitigate this situation and implment fair rights ...its just a huge mess for everyone!! It is a business and peoples lives depend on the income associated with sales. and there are huge efforts made by many to market and strategically place bands & their works. I also agree tho that their is an excessive amount of greed and ridicilous markups etc...and that certain bands lack the exposure a lable can provide....however that doesnt technically justify stealing. My take, if the artists on board, run with downloads. If not, run with it...but cover your tracks...as it may catch up with you..esp. if you're pulling down large amounts. Suks...but tis the law. On that note, I wonder how many people are actually aware what theyre doing may be illegal? I sure as hell didnt know anything about pirating or copyright laws when I was younger (even if the internet existed as it does now) . I only know this now bc of my professional and personal involvement with the industry...particularly copyright law. If you work in the industry or are an artist etc.., see things from a different angle. I both fortunately, and unfortunately see both sides so would personally love to download it all...but I know the deal and how it effects peeps on the otherside. good luck all on this one!!
- biggestprick, on 09/06/2009, -4/+4Why don't you shut the hell up, since you know it all.
- MrMcGuire, on 09/06/2009, -3/+3You guys need to stop bitching on "the artists" behalf. Just because you can download the music doesn't mean that it's all of the sudden free. That's the artists and the labels property.
My band is on a deal where the label gets a good percentage of the online sales. I love giving our music away for free, and thankfully since it's an indie label, they are okay with us giving away hard copies, but the online music is their property for the remainder of our contract. They fronted a lot of money for recording and promotion, so it's completely within their rights to not want to allow us to give out free downloads online. Even if we think it would help our band grow.
It's business. It goes the same for my website design company. We use our clip art, stock photos, etc. to make our designs. We put the time in to designing those elements and shooting those locations, so if the client wants exclusive rights to any of it, they have to pay.
If artists are upset about not being able to allow people to pirate their music, go completely indie and hold on to all of the rights to your music. It's pretty simple. - stubear, on 09/06/2009, -13/+4Then these artists need to either a) not sign a contract with the record labels and go ti on their own, or b) try to get something in their contract that keeps the labels from suing their fans for downloading music (good luck with this one). Otherwise, quit whining and shut the hell up.
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