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- theinept, on 10/28/2007, -1/+73Give away quality software for free and "monetize" it in a way that isn't just unobtrusive but actually useful? They deserve all the money they make.
- dolby, on 10/25/2007, -0/+4866.8 million dollars well that explains why Firefox rocks, it makes money from nothing!!!
- knicknut, on 10/28/2007, -1/+31Here I thought they were just putting the most useful search engine in the corner to make their program as useful as possible. Ends up they make $60MM giving me what I wanted anyway--now that's a good business model!
- Sparhawk2k, on 10/28/2007, -0/+19Or they can keep it and use it to make more even better software.
- Authustian, on 10/25/2007, -0/+18Just like the Federal Reserve!
/sry_couldnt_help_it - FlyCO, on 10/25/2007, -1/+17do you even know how to right-click?
- comrade693, on 10/25/2007, -0/+13Then you'd know that you can remove those "space crowding features" you seem so bitter about.
- Stonekeeper, on 10/25/2007, -0/+12we all know this is lies. You can't _possibly_ make money off open source! We all know that, right?
- daftman, on 10/25/2007, -0/+9Open source is just another business model.
It is already a charity by giving away intellectual property.
Do you think all charities are about monetary? - doom2quake, on 10/24/2007, -2/+10awesome .... this is angel funding(thats how i look at it) at its best .... and big time publicity for google.
- daftman, on 10/25/2007, -1/+8He is probably using a Mac
- Neph, on 10/24/2007, -0/+6"Mozilla’s software spending was $308,871 in 2006, up from $30,120 a year earlier."
What's that about? Anyone know? - dreicher, on 10/24/2007, -1/+7"In any case, Mozilla’s expenses in 2006 were just shy of $20 million at $19.77 million. The bulk of these expenses were for 90 people working full or part-time on Mozilla. Employees were 70 percent of expenses."
$20,000,000 * 0.70 / 90 = $155,555.55 per employee. Is that right? - acarr, on 10/24/2007, -0/+6You have to understand that there were other operating expenses, such as electricity, rent, etc. Then you also have to look at salary WITH benefits. It's expensive to provide health insurance and dental insurance to employees. Your 155k would be an absolute upper figure and is probably not even close to being correct.
- DoorFrame, on 10/25/2007, -0/+6How could you not notice the box was there, yet still use it all the time?
- clothmonkey, on 10/25/2007, -0/+5Aww, did someone prank your copy of Microserf Juggernaut Exploder to read Firefox in the title bar?
- dreicher, on 10/25/2007, -0/+5Employees were 70% of expenses, thus the (* 0.70), so other operating expenses are already figured in the 155k figure. I don't think its anywhere close to being correct - considering n% of those people are part-time. Health insurance / dental (even on the high end) should be less than $15k per employee-year, so salary average by my calculations would still be $140K across all full-time and part-time employees.
- Topher06, on 10/25/2007, -0/+4Come on, honestly? You think that people should just donate all their time to open source projects and not earn anything off of them? What is wrong with earning money for providing a product or service? I mean I know the whole open source community abhors the idea of software made for profit, but come on you need money still to live. I am not going to work 12 hours a day and not get anything in return. I can understand that those peopole that contribute to Mozilla that work outside of Mozilla don't get anything back, and perhaps Mozilla should offer profit sharing programs for people that contribute significantly to the project to be fair, but the people working at Mozilla don't make FireFox for a hobby and so should get compensated for it. Also banking profit means that Mozilla can stop begging for change and will help them continue development should another browser gain market dominance that lessens FireFox's penetration. Is the US still a capatilist society or did it suddenly become a socialist/communist state? Should Google make billions and not give back to the products that helped them get there? Look at Wikipedia and how its begging for donations. That is sad. It provides an excellent service and yet must resort to begging to survive. If all it did was add Google Ads, at least only on the search results page it probably would be profitable enough to continue. I honestly find it ridiculous that people think selling software is wrong, but then turning around a begging for money and b*tching about how little people donate is better? Lets be honest here. Comments like this just prove to me that people don't use their brains and instead just spout off about self-righteous fluffy idealisms out of habit. If Mozilla is making money off of FireFox then hey, finally someone is turning Open Source into a profitable business model that can work and not just maintaining a air of a fluffy feel good ideas. The software is still free but the company can make profit, what is f*cking wrong with that? Lay off the weed buddy!
- FlyCO, on 10/25/2007, -2/+6indeed, IE really sucks
- knicknut, on 10/25/2007, -0/+3Well, that and make it useful enough that millions of people install it on their computers and use the google search frequently. Good luck.
- stupidbrowner, on 10/25/2007, -0/+3The UI on Mac will be improved for the next version which due out late this year / early 2008.
- Jerky1312, on 10/25/2007, -0/+3I rarely use the Google search bar within Firefox. I always change it to wikipedia, as I tend to use that more often. I could just enter a search term and switch to google, but switching it can get annoying. If they could make it like the "Torrent Bar" extension, which lets you enter a search item and lets you pick which site you want to search with, without ever having to change the default. Ironically the Torrent Bar search has Google built in as well, so that works out better actually than the default search bar on Firefox.
- viksmaester, on 10/24/2007, -0/+2they can probably invest some more to make it launch faster than safari and IE. Also improve the UI on Mac version
- zabouth, on 10/25/2007, -0/+2add bandwidth bills for 50million downloads to that
- zabouth, on 10/24/2007, -0/+2are we using the same firefox?
- inactive, on 10/25/2007, -0/+2Still there are people that thinks that FLOSS means FREE (as in beer)?
- electricalen, on 10/25/2007, -1/+3That includes Mozilla corporation so don't forget the corporate executives tax.
They'll probably take the first 6M for themselves, then leave the other 10M for everyone else. So that's now 100K average. That is probably also eaten up mostly by the top managers.
In any case, they will pay the people willing to do the work for market rates, then take the rest for themselves, regardless of the profit margins. - ftyuv, on 10/25/2007, -0/+2I don't use the search bar at all; I use keyworded bookmarks for everything. Google is "g search term", wikipedia is "w search term", dictionary is "d search term", etc. I don't really need the search bar's autocomplete, so I find this more convenient.
- Godel, on 10/24/2007, -0/+2It's not just the corner box, when you type something besides a valid http link into the address bar firefox automatically returns the top google result for what you typed. For example, when you type "google" into the address bar, firefox runs a google search for "google" then displays the top result, google.com. This probably makes them quite a bit of money. I, for one, never type in full addresses any more.
- prezzy, on 10/24/2007, -0/+1lol 100mb? thats on a good day with maybe 2 tabs open.
- zabouth, on 10/24/2007, -0/+1one word dumbass
- MindStalker, on 10/24/2007, -1/+2well technically its not, its pay per click in reality. It helps provide google with additional page views which google provides a share back to firefox.
- KungFuJesus, on 10/24/2007, -0/+1Nonprofits still make revenue, they just give away the profit
- cquilliam, on 10/24/2007, -0/+14 tabs open on an XP machine.....61,244Kb . That doesn't bother me much, I would expect one of my main programs to use that much.
- GlobalWarbling, on 10/24/2007, -1/+2Opera ftw
- da5id, on 10/25/2007, -1/+2If my math is correct the average salary for a Mozilla Foundation/Corporation employee is more than $150,000 per annum. Presumably, some are paid less -- and some more. The Chairman of the Foundation owns a for-profit company that provides "back-office support and services" to the Foundation/Corporation pursuant to a contract in excess of $50,000 per year. If someone getting greedy here?
- das7282, on 10/24/2007, -1/+1That comment was so cheesy I just had to digg it up. ;-)
- rrjanbiah, on 10/25/2007, -1/+0Google should actually share money with the GoogleBar http://googlebar.mozdev.org/ programmers too. The toolbar is almost abandoned with the introduction of official toolbar; but still widely used, I believe.
- bronskrat, on 10/25/2007, -2/+1So all I gotta do is make some dumb product that has Google search in it and I'm rich? No problem!
- viksmaester, on 10/24/2007, -2/+1yea rite....who will pay the programmers????
- mukund, on 10/25/2007, -3/+1Great Work Firefox.
But I kinda feel bad. As Firefox told me in the beginning that its a nonprofit organization. And then they changed.
Any ways No harm in making money. Policy changes are tolerable for a product as good and useful as Firefox is. - inactive, on 10/25/2007, -3/+166.8 million memory leaks. That’s up from 52.9 million in 2005.
***** MOZILLA - nevaregar, on 10/25/2007, -4/+1firefox is a condom for the internet....
- acarr, on 10/24/2007, -7/+2Great, can they fix it so it doesn't end up using 100+MB of RAM when I use it?
- krnldmp, on 10/25/2007, -15/+2I do it in Opera all the time.
- socialbuys, on 10/25/2007, -14/+0oh wow, I never even noticed that box was there in the corner, but yet i use it all the time.
RD
http://www.socialbuys.com - FyberOptic, on 10/24/2007, -16/+2So much money, and apparently not a penny of it going to making the browser worth using. When it stops being slow, bloated, and vulnerability-prone, let me know.
- inactive, on 10/25/2007, -24/+2Open source should not be about making money. They should give the revenues to charity or something.
- krnldmp, on 10/25/2007, -25/+2I don't use any browser that doesn't allow me to remove all those space crowding "features". I know how to get to google if I need it.
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