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- tarley, on 01/22/2009, -3/+71Before launching into some long winded privacy diatribe, please note the key word in the article: *volunteer*
- inactive, on 01/21/2009, -24/+75I do not approve. Not even the privacy issue. It's the fact that they're using this for advertising possibilities. I don't want to be sold anything as it is, why would I want you to "customize" an advertisement scheme for me? I understand it's "volunteer-based", however for those that participate, it'll give Mozilla an idea of how the average surfer navigates/shops and they'll use the information to sell advertisements that are even more intrusive than the ones that are out there. Mark my words, this is the begining of the end of Mozilla. They should stick to NOT being like IE.
Nice try Mozilla, on making it sound like an "exciting" and "fresh" "fun" idea. I'm not buying it. - AmaDaden, on 01/22/2009, -2/+29This is an ADD-ON! NOT PART OF FIREFOX.
The story title is VERY misleading. To have your data sent to the FireFox team by this you will need to go out of your way to install the test pilot add on. - Loornadune, on 01/21/2009, -7/+30So... you'd rather have the companies that advertise go bankrupt because their ads aren't getting seen by an audience that wants their products? Thanks, but I like my internet being funded by SOEMTHING, and relatively cheap. I don't like having to pay for online versions of magazines whereas I could be reading an ad-supported site.
- derrrface, on 01/22/2009, -1/+22digg, fark, porn, torrents.
- richgustavson, on 01/22/2009, -0/+17Sweet, I'd love to be a Test Pilot for the test pilot program of Test Pilot!
- sidewinderaim9x, on 01/22/2009, -1/+16Dugg for the picture. That is one cute fox.
- Nauree, on 01/22/2009, -1/+16Mozilla wants to know what kinda porn I watch? All they had to do is ask. Zoophilia.
- Biscuitz, on 01/22/2009, -1/+15It's good to have a few people around here that can actually read.
- Anigma, on 01/22/2009, -1/+10Why is it that every time there is an article about collecting user data, people instantly jump to the conclusion that it is being used for something evil, be it advertising or big brother style snooping? It doesn't say ANYWHERE on mozilla's blog post that this project was designed to help advertisers to build better ads. If you had READ the actual post, it would be clear that this is designed to collect usage data about firefox itself, not your web browsing habits. Please read the article before you make inane posts.
- AmnesiacJack, on 01/22/2009, -2/+10Yo dawg we heard you like being a test pilot so we put a test pilot in your Test Pilot so you can test pilot while you Test Pilot!
- entropysteak, on 01/22/2009, -0/+7so don't download it then. learn to read.
- orthodoxDrew, on 01/22/2009, -0/+6i volunteer to google every day i'm at work. figure i'll give firefox my digg refreshes too.
- virtualonliner, on 01/22/2009, -0/+6The title is misleading. It's not like they will track all of us. You HAVE to install an add-on if you want to let them do it. There is a huge difference.
- Cojafoji, on 01/22/2009, -0/+5It would help if the title wasn't so obviously biased. Nothing screams big brother like "Mozilla Wants to Start Watching Where You Click"...
- madin, on 01/21/2009, -8/+13Very interesting approach! But I'm affraid that data privacy will become an issue in this case, even though "...the data will be collected anonymously. The user profiles will remain anonymous, too, so they won't contain any information that would allow anyone to directly link data collected from your browser back to you".
- Robzzz, on 01/22/2009, -0/+5Most people have not read the article.
This is an addon not part of Firefox. Also the main reason this started was to get usability info of Firefox, not the web. On how you use Firefox, what menus are used, what thing users do alot that might be made quicker and simpler. They then extended this idea to work with other Mozzila apps (Thunderbird) and addons like Ubiquity. It would also then ask you to participate in surveys that would allow you better ability to shape changes within these apps and addons. "Do you want this menu changed?" "Do you want this feature added" etc.
It was then extended to allow Research projects (non-commercial) to use the platform to gather survey data from people that have the add-on installed.
http://labs.mozilla.com/2009/01/test-pilot-vision/ - ElBeh, on 01/22/2009, -0/+4http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r395/Slayers_Sp ...
- inactive, on 01/22/2009, -1/+5Follow me:
You need things
You buy things
You buy things that you know about (be that word of mouth, commercials, reviews, whatever)
Companies make stuff and want to sell it (to you!)
Companies advertise
Here's the disconnect: Company X makes something awesome, and it's something that YOU actually need. But you don't want to be "advertised at" because we've got this notion in our cultural psyche that companies are evil and advertisements use some kind of subliminal magic to force us to buy their *****.
They don't - they want to get their message out to potential customers of THEIR product and nobody else.
To be honest, if I can be bombarded only by ads that are things I genuinely have a use for (and not payday loans, singles sites, and winning a free ***** iPod), I really do support initiatives like this.
I mean, I'll still use AdBlock Plus because the volume of ads is ridiculous, but if they can reduce the volume of ads and increase the overall quality/relevance? *****, that's awesome. - inactive, on 01/22/2009, -1/+5 Does anyone believe they wont be saving this info along with your IP address? I don't.
- madin, on 01/22/2009, -0/+4I got that. Probably my comment is a bit missleading. I, for myself, am not affraid of it. I'm a usability consultant and would be very interested in the results :). And if it would be a problem to me, I just wouldn't install the plugin. But I'm affraid that a lot of others (people not so familiar with the web) could misunderstand this as a violation of thier privacy. Furthermore, I'm a German... and I'm definitely sure that this will be a BIG problem for lots of Germans - and most of all for the data privacy agencies over here. Just think of the discussion as Chrome was released... I guess almost everybody laughed about the german data privacy agencies in that case...
So please don't get me wrong. - HonoredMule, on 01/22/2009, -0/+3Interesting idea, and one far less associated with "Big Brother" issues than one would likely assume. But I can't justify digging a Wired article so recently after the misleading crud Wired recently wrote while shilling out for Comcast. Find me another source and I'll digg that, but I'm burying this.
- inactive, on 01/22/2009, -0/+3No.. We all gather that much... we just don't like the idea, either way. You have to use a little of your own discretion when it comes to what a company is telling you. You can't just say "Oh, well they said this... it must be 100% true." Gotta think for yourself sometimes, man.
- nesagwa, on 01/22/2009, -4/+7SOEMTHING. From the makers of MOAR and SAUCE somes SOEMTHING.
- stix213, on 01/22/2009, -0/+3As long as it is optional and not enabled by default
- nesagwa, on 01/22/2009, -1/+4"I don't like having to pay for online versions of magazines whereas I could be reading an ad-supported site."
You could be paying for their ad supported magazine and still be paying a subscription fee. Whats the difference. - NikoKun, on 01/22/2009, -1/+4I just plan to click randomly all over the place, every chance I get. xD
- ligyron, on 01/22/2009, -1/+4That's too many test pilots. That's just ridiculous.
- dusanmal, on 01/22/2009, -0/+3There is ongoing research which already makes it possible to personally identify every user just by his/hers habits of where the "mouse hovers most of the time, weather you use a hotkey or use the menu option to open new tabs, etc.". As good as fingerprints... Hence, enormous privacy issue.
- insinuate, on 01/22/2009, -0/+3RTFA - ***VOLUNTEERS***
- inactive, on 01/22/2009, -0/+3her-
http://www.nexwarecorp.com/images/hot-firefox-girl ... - inactive, on 01/22/2009, -0/+2It is voluntary, BTW.
- madin, on 01/22/2009, -0/+2"FF is going to catch a lot of heat for this" these are the words I was looking for ;) thx!
- nnagflar, on 01/22/2009, -1/+3Translation: Mozilla wants to compile the largest list of porn sites ever.
- InvaderDem, on 01/22/2009, -0/+2Indeed. Just like using GPS to let people know where I'm at. I know that they have to be part of a friends network or something like that but (1) it's none of their business in the first place and I don't want them to know exactly where I'm at and (2) you know that soon it's not going to be restricted to a "network or friends."
- AmaDaden, on 01/22/2009, -0/+2Don't worry about it. The caps were more so other people would see it. I know that FF is going to catch a lot of heat for this and since it's something you have to go out of your way to sign up for it's going to be unjustified.
- Paulish, on 01/23/2009, -0/+2Zoophilia is a psychological disorder. Are you saying that you like watching furries have sex with each other? The internet is getting weirder each day; I am afraid of what it will look like when I am old man.
- Ttech2, on 01/22/2009, -0/+2Topic makes it sound worse then it is...
And I think Chrome has a similar feature but built in? - pinchduck, on 01/22/2009, -2/+4Not interested.
- Shmike9, on 01/22/2009, -1/+2I'll only do it if they let me share all my personal banking and credit card info with a large group of strangers.
- CrudOMatic, on 01/22/2009, -0/+1So, it is voluntary. Voluntary things usually have a way of becoming mandatory.
- BradOFarrell, on 01/22/2009, -3/+4I think this violates my rights some how!! /slashdot
- inactive, on 01/22/2009, -0/+1click click click
- dusanmal, on 01/22/2009, -0/+1There is ongoing research which already makes it possible to personally identify every user just by his/hers habits of where the mouse hovers most of the time, weather you use a hotkey or use the menu option to open new tabs, etc.". As good as fingerprints... Hence, enormous privacy issue when Mozilla wants to gather such data. Danger of building this "feature" into future releases. Danger of other browser makers following the trend.
- ronaldmonster, on 01/22/2009, -2/+3If they go trough with it I'm gonna use Chrome or Opera, I can live without live bookmarks if I'm not being bombarded with WERE LOOKING FOR 19 YEAR GAMERS!!!!111!1 ads.
- WraTH017, on 01/22/2009, -3/+4It's called spyware. No thanks.
- ahhell, on 01/22/2009, -1/+2How about NO, Scott.
- Robzzz, on 01/22/2009, -2/+3When the whole thing is open source you can't really hide what and how the data is gathered. I think there will be many people examining how this process will work and making sure it's above board.
Security people are more than happy to write a paper about the security/privacy failings of beloved applications to stroke there own ego. It will also be in the Interest of many of Mozillas competitors to make sure it is above board, and if it isn't then rubbish them in public. Public image is one of the most important things to a distributor of Free software. - amitait, on 01/22/2009, -1/+2I just need one thing.
I don't want to restart my FF after I install a new add-on.
That's it. - farfromhere, on 01/22/2009, -0/+1RTA.
They are asking you. Nobody's forcing you to opt-in.
It's not an "invasion" if you ask them in.
The other examples you mentioned may be, but they have very little to do with this article. -
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