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- raz3000, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14They don't even seem to hold charity drives to stay afloat. Good for them. Of course if they did hold one I'd support them.
- kettlechips, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Wait, I thought open source was not profitable?
- lament, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12I helped with that $53 million.. I donated $30 to have my name in the Firefox 1.0 newspaper ad. :)
- MisterCookie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I put in $30 for a firefox t-shirt :D
- superkoopa, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Good to see them making some money for their great software, keep on strong Mozilla.
- sker, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9This should say something about 2006..
- tapo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6It's both. The Mozilla Foundation owns the Mozilla Corporation, and uses the corporation when dealing with other entities, as establishing business relationships as a nonprofit is difficult.
Since the Mozilla Foundation is in control, you can donate to them (it's tax deductable) and they could hold fund raisers if they wanted to. - kunalthakar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Its an economic decision. Nothing FOSS about it. Google gets more people to use their service since they are on the home page.
- eelco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4You can also use the search box in the toolbar.
- darkyoshi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Every time you search from the Firefox start page, Mozilla gets some money from Google. Kudos to Google for supporting FOSS!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5The paper ad was done early on, and was a spreadfirefox.com effort, so the money was not there as it is now.
- KnightMareInc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3wow didnt think the search engine brought in that much.Isnt this what they were talking about on the last twit?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Mozilla are now seeking out ways to distribute funds to groups supporting mozilla technologies. They do not plan to just sit on this money and do nothing. Firstly, hire more people to work on the codebase, and secondly help out their volunteer contributors with travel expenses, computing equipment and trips to open source attendences.
- dhuck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3i love what this means for open source in the future. to all the greedy capitalists looking to make fortunes in technology, you're time in the sun is almost done. mozilla (and wikipedia, among others) are paving the way for an entirely new system - and i for one, couldn't be more proud.
- justdave, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3They did release the IRS documents. RTFA. :) They're linked from the 4th paragraph.
- Wootery, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I hope they give some of it to worse-off projects, like when they donated to OpenBSD.
- vidorian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+353 mill buys a lot of midol.
- wsanders, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3$53M in revenue, not profit. Non-profit organizations still have bills to pay. Revenue is just money you take in before you've spent a dime.
Besides, this is unverified. Wait until they release their IRS-required statements of income and expenses to question their profits. - geekee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"The bulk of this revenue was related to our search engine relationships"
Translation, Mozilla is Google's bitch. - LightsOut06, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3i just wanted to say that I have always hated firefox and prefered opera over firefox for a while now. Firefox has always sucked on my windows and linux (especially) systems. It was bloated, slow, and was a resource hog....
This was until i got fed up with the bugginess of flash 9 beta with opera and decided to apt-get firefox again. I got version 2.0 and I must say that it definently rocks. All the functionality and more that I get with opera out of the box I can get with firefox through extensions. Plus it seems to be less of a memory hog and loads up faster than it used to. Furthermore imo it isnt as ugly out the box. Good job mozilla. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4You can't really have a charity drive for a corporation....
- keane, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don't want to use the "firefox start" page with the firefox logo; I just want to use google.com but I still would like to support Mozilla. If I use
http://www.google.com/webhp?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&tab=iw&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=
will the Mozilla Corporation get the proceeds? - KnightMareInc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1bloated compared to what?
- cuemkid, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1$53M in revenue, not profit. Non-profit organizations still have bills to pay. Revenue is just money you take in before you've spent a dime.
Mysite:
http://www.onboom.com/ http://www.download.onboom.com/ http://www.onboom.com/downloads/ http://www.duc-anh.com/ - mccoma, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The IRS would have some unkind words about such a scheme.
- brendanc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Might have been a stunt, but I've got 2 or 3 posters of the "ad" (though I only ordered 1) and the newspaper that my name is in.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They ship Yahoo as default in China
- GoBack2Europe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2viva Mozilla!
- Lynxpro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1
If Google wanted to ensure Firefox's continued development and superiority over Internet Explorer (and thus keep Microsoft at bay), they might look into giving their employees "raises" of 1/3rd of their existing salaries with the requirement that the "raise" be donated to the Mozilla Foundation. You can donate 1/3rd of your income to charities/not-for-profits and write it off on your (U.S.) taxes. Various companies have used such tactics to shore up PACs.
This would look better on their financial reports to the SEC than outright "donating" money to a foundation that Google does not own their intellectual property. They could always use the excuse that the higher salaries ensure higher quality employees and is part of remaining competitive against the Yahoos and the Microsofts of the tech world... - el_taco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@wsanders
FTA: The combined expenses of the Mozilla Foundation and Corporation were approximately $8.2M in 2005, of which approximately $3M was associated with the Foundation. - CircleFusion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I am running both IE6 (at work) and IE7 (at home) and they are both noticably slower than Firefox (1.5 and 2.0). I also have a handful of web-dev related Firefox plugins installed. I keep hearing about this Firefox slowdown, but I'm not experiencing it.
About 6 months ago, I read an interview from a Mozilla rep saying that the memory leakage problems were associated with certain plugins with sloppy code. Is it possible that the slowdown that some of you are experiencing is also plugin-related? - kripkenstein, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Perhaps the 2005 _tax_ year is meant, which isn't the same as the calender year.
- jacko1990, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Anyway I have an idea. I mean surely they can't actually need all that money - so rather than just giving it all to the lawyers and stuffed shirts, they give some of it to an African charity (or simila). - and then we can know that by supporting Firefox, we are genuinely doing something worthwhile.
- Wootery, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3@Knight
"bloated compared to what?"
Anything - Firefox is just about the slowest browser around (even compared to IE, iirc).
I rarely use anything but Firefox, but it sure as hell isn't fast. - Wootery, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1My way of donating is to use the Google quicksearch in Firefox.
Seeing as that I also use Adblock Plus/Filterset.G and CustomizeGoogle (with the Google ad blockers on), I figure I'm costing Google quite a bit. - gamerzworld, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Everyone who uses the Google search in the top right helped Mozilla. Mozilla gets some cash every time you make a search through that.
MOZILLA FTW!! - LightsOut06, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1sorry i use KDE and but when I did use gnome i always thought epiphany blew balls. Thanks for the suggestion though :D
- jacko1990, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Read this:
http://lwn.net/Articles/200857/
(and follow the links too).
The problem with Mozilla is that it is awash with money - which is something they never envisaged or anticipated - and now that there is so much money they have handed much of the control over to lawyers and coporate type executives, who don't like to play fair - and who have no real conception of what the spirit of open source truly entails. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Please donate to the Mozilla Corporation.
- tapo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I suggest that if you're running GNOME, try installing Epiphany. It uses the same rendering engine as Firefox, only it uses native widgets, giving it a great performance boost. Considering it's the same engine, it'll use all the plugins that you already have installed.
- Scarblac, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1It's not a corporation, it's a not-for-profit foundation.
- youpidou, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0The paper ad was a PR stunt. They had money. Not 53 million, but real money.
- ifonly, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2NON PROFIT MY ASS.
- IQ70, on 10/12/2007, -12/+7They shouldn't be asking money for an ad trying to pass off as a poor company.
- orangery, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3FireFox is currently bloated and they better spend these money on fixing dat *****.


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