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- inactive, on 10/22/2007, -4/+19Naw man, I read every day on Digg how Microsoft has basically failed with Vista, how OSX is domminating computer sales, and how this is the year of the Linux desktop. Clearly with all the misfortune that Microsoft is facing they are no longer a monopoly. Time for the restraints to come off.
- inactive, on 10/22/2007, -5/+18Clearly the huge surge in Macintosh users, it being the year of Linux on the desktop, and Microsofts inability to deliver a functional operating system with Vista proves that Microsoft is no longer a monopoly.
Or...
Microsoft is a monopoly, and all those things I listed are bull *****.
Me thinks diggers should make up their mind. - inactive, on 10/22/2007, -4/+17capitalism... anyone?
- solid12345, on 10/22/2007, -1/+10Why should MS have to release their source code? It is a right of any corporation to maintain secrets on how their product is made. Even Coca-Cola refuses to divulge its recipe to this day.
- chris9902, on 10/22/2007, -4/+12The fact they imposed these in 2002 and Micorosft have maintained there market share should tell you it's not working if their goal was to open up the market.
- AuroraAlpha, on 10/22/2007, -6/+14Hm.
Because Microsoft is clearly the fastest growing, most closed operating system available. You know, it’s impossible to install a competitive browser like Firefox, or another office suite like openoffice, and surly they don't allow other OSes like Linux to be on the same computer.
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Shouldn't apple be under review then since you can't even legally install their OSes on non-apple hardware? MS allows you to install on any hardware you want. - insomniac8400, on 10/22/2007, -1/+9I find it very odd that cable and phone companies aren't monopolies even though they set their price and you have no choice but to pay it or go phoneless, internetless, and cableless. But, Windows which can be easily replaced with linux by just putting a disk in your cdrom drive, is a monopoly.
- MioTheGreat, on 10/22/2007, -2/+9Let Microsoft do what they want.
I'm a Ron Paul supporter, and not an OSX/Linux zealot, so I think I'm an ultra minority on digg. - Macskeeball, on 10/22/2007, -0/+7Please learn how to use the reply feature.
- Easty, on 10/22/2007, -2/+8What do Digg's legions of Ron Paul supporters have to say about this? I'm curious. What with Ron being so vehemently free market, and the concept of antitrust lawsuits being more or less the antithesis of a free market.
- inactive, on 10/22/2007, -3/+9Wait, Microsoft prevents other companies office suites and web browsers from running in Windows?
- solid12345, on 10/22/2007, -4/+10Microsoft is not a monopoly either, the definition of a monopoly is a situation where only one company provides a service and no other competitors exist.
- joe90210, on 10/22/2007, -2/+7huh? what does office have to do with anything? idiot.
- yoda133113, on 10/22/2007, -0/+5So by the same logic, if Coke and Pepsi are so great, why do they get restaurants to sign exclusive contracts, and give massive discounts to restaurants that do, as opposed to those that don't.
- EndersGame, on 10/22/2007, -3/+7I would say that there are a lot of things wrong with this country at the moment, and Ron Paul is working to fix the most important issues. And btw Ron Paul does believe in a free market, but he also believes corporations don't deserve the same Constitutional rights that citizen's do. In essence his policies are going to work against corporations and for the people. Thats why you don't see any major corporations donating to his campaign.
- GMorgan, on 10/22/2007, -2/+6I'm pretty sure a free market would do away with the IP that MS clings so dearly to as well. That would remove much of the fear of litigation that keeps Windows in many corporations. I'd be happy to do away with ineffective antitrust lawsuits and rely more on an actual free market without patent monopolies.
- r3zonance, on 10/22/2007, -1/+4What are these corrupt business practices you speak of?
- Macskeeball, on 10/22/2007, -2/+5I'm no gamer, but you're forgetting Xbox.
- yoda133113, on 10/22/2007, -1/+3Wait, Star Office sucks, but Open Office doesn't?, that's not possible, Star Office is Open Office, just rebranded and with more stuff.
- meanfish, on 10/22/2007, -1/+3A healthy capitalist economy depends on competition to thrive. Otherwise it's no different from communism, save for the companies running the show instead of the government.
- Macskeeball, on 10/22/2007, -0/+2I wasn't saying that Xbox was a monopoly. I was talking about the splitting up MS into multiple parts. If MS were split up like you suggested, where would the Xbox go?
- mabhatter, on 10/22/2007, -0/+2those companies go thru regulators for every price hike.. the regulators have no ballz but the companies you mentioned are highly regulated... it just happens to be that their monopoly status has benefits to spying on people the govt finds desirable, so pricing is less important.
- deadbaby, on 10/22/2007, -1/+3^^ Microsoft's anti-trust conviction included them being found guilty of abusing their monopoly to push Office onto OEMs. Bundle office, you got Windows cheaper. That's illegal for a monopoly to do.
- JonForTheWin, on 10/22/2007, -4/+5Capitalism doesn't work so great when the consumers are ***** retards though. =/
- philhatesyou, on 10/22/2007, -3/+4The phone companies *ARE* monopolies. When the presidential administration wasn't so eager to have big business' dick in it's ass, they were pretty well regulated. Also, just because you can replace Windows by installing another OS doesn't mean Microsoft doesn't have a monopoly. See my above reply to AuroraAlpha.
- solid12345, on 10/22/2007, -5/+6Microsoft delivers a non-functional product? Gee, so I guess the last 20 years of offices all around America using Windows went out of business because they had a product that didn't work.
- inactive, on 10/22/2007, -1/+2Welcome to Digg, where the boundaries of reality are subject to the necessities of making three-liner exaggerated points about fairly meaningless topics.
- EndersGame, on 10/22/2007, -5/+6Obviously all those things you listed are *****. Anybody with half a brain knows Apple still has very little marketshare overall, every year is the year of the Linux Desktop, and Microsoft's inability to deliver a functional product has never stopped it from dominating the market before. That last one is what makes Microsoft a monopoly.
Heres a tip, don't ever get facts from a comment section. - Waterrat, on 10/22/2007, -0/+1Read Chomsky's Understanding Power...And go from there.
- Waterrat, on 10/22/2007, -0/+1Sure it is.
- Waterrat, on 10/22/2007, -0/+1 That's what's happening NOW...At least in the USA.
- baalzebub, on 10/22/2007, -2/+3xbox is not a monopoly in the game market, Sony and Nintendo been competing for years, microsoft's xbox is a latecomer to the game console market...
- mabhatter, on 10/22/2007, -3/+4You aren't microsot's customer.. the OEM that built your computer is, and how many exist that don't sell windows more or less exclusively? It's a two-part problem. Here's the real question, if Microsoft is so great, why do they need exclusive contracts that fix the price of windows artificially low with OEMS? Why shouldn't every OEM pay the same price for Windows with no strings attached? That's why Microsoft is an ILLEGAL monopoly. The only fair thing to do is to VOID all Microsoft OEM deals and put Windows to a fixed price model for everybody. There should be no OEM version, only retail boxes and retail prices... Microsoft is a monopoly so the price should be the same no matter where you get it. Microsoft can pay for it's own advertising if it wants to, and OEMs can pay for their own. As punishment the price fixed for Windows should be the full retail price, no more OEM, or upgrade prices.. the same for everybody, then windows can stand on it's own!!! and no some back room deal that punishes the OEM distributor for selling customers what they want.
- ZenMojo, on 10/22/2007, -2/+3Apple has corrupt business practices. Microsoft is a monopoly and is only trying to strengthen its stranglehold on the market.
Government oversight is needed on both. - yoda133113, on 10/22/2007, -2/+21. they do benefit from you being able to install their software on any hardware, and that is that more people can use it.
2. It's not MS's fault that Valve (and others) program for Windows, that just makes since, you program for what people have. - rieuwa, on 10/22/2007, -2/+2has schestowitz created a new id?
- solid12345, on 10/22/2007, -4/+4Star Office sucked, Corel word perfect sucked. Sorry but MS Office was the superior office suite. Open Office is a good alternative though.
- peterinjapan, on 10/22/2007, -6/+4@ Chris9902.
Dude, just care a little about what you write. THEIR market share, not THERE market share. Nor is it THEY'RE market share. Sorry, but I am an English major, and while I can get behind I CAN HAS CHEEZEBURGER? every once in a while, arguing a point while you argue a point while getting stuff like that wrong. Please. - chugger1992, on 10/22/2007, -8/+6Microsoft.
- deadbaby, on 10/21/2007, -3/+1How are phone companies monopoly? You can choose AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, Nextel, T-Mobile, etc.
- philhatesyou, on 10/22/2007, -6/+3I suggest you take a reading comprehension class.
- baalzebub, on 10/22/2007, -8/+3microsoft does use its dominating position in the market to bully & stifle competition to the point that it is illegal, it is not against the law to have a monopoly in a market but it is against the law to to do what microsoft does in that position...
if i was in charge of the DOJ i would split ms in to three (not two) parts, one for the OS, one for office and one for other misc. applications such as IE, wmp, & etc, and none of the three parts can communicate about anything without full disclosure to the rest of the IT industry... - JonForTheWin, on 10/22/2007, -7/+2Capitalism doesn't work so great when the consumers are ***** retards though. =/
- keyo, on 10/22/2007, -15/+9Too bad the damage is already done. How many office suites have they killed off?
- philhatesyou, on 10/22/2007, -8/+2You're missing the point here bub. Everytime someone puts up an article extolling the virtues of a product that competes with Windows or Office, the primary complaint is "yes but xxx won't run/open in another OS/office suite." This is precisely what leverage having a monopoly gives you. People have to use your product, even if they don't want to.
Also, MS doesn't manufacture hardware, so they don't really benefit from you being able to install their OS on any x86 hardware you want, and Apple doesn't have the leverage of a monopoly. - fantasticFlan, on 10/22/2007, -12/+5Apple isn't anywhere close to a monopoly.
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