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- danieltko, on 10/12/2007, -7/+27Cancer? I thought I just dugg that they cured that.
- kyriakos, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20I dont know about your country but here 12 years olds drink beer with their parents. It turns out to have a lower crime rate than the US and a lot less people in mental institutions or group therapy.. so drinking is not the problem.
- kaniz, on 10/12/2007, -8/+25weed causes psychosis? thats news to me.
- stevester, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18@omirix
if you smoke pot you are less likely to get cancer than if you don't? - danieltko, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18We have all been conducting our own research for centuries and the results are in.
- shinynew, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17@jacks0n I think you may want to lay off it because what it does cause is memory loss, so you might for example make up effects of drugs because you forgot what they acually are.
and I would like to say, its a hell of alot more healty then drinking all the time... - MrBound, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11I'm interested as to what the kid's grades were like.
- nosmelc, on 10/12/2007, -7/+17Poor kid - Dad in jail, Mom sharing the weed. He never had a chance.
- Xyl3ne, on 10/12/2007, -8/+17Find me one that isn't conducted by a government that also outlaws such substances.
- Dradis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Smoke inhalation by principle isn't good for you, and will give you respiratory problems/ increase cancer likelihood regardless of whether it's tobacco, weed, nutmeg or wood chip smoke :S
Personally I'd rather have people smoking weed than tobacco. I think if a society legalizes other mildly intoxicating and/or addictive substances such as alcohol and cigarettes, why not weed? And I hope no one brings out the 'gateway' drug excuse; there's no evidence to support that claim. - fyngyrz, on 10/12/2007, -11/+20It's more like, "Poor kid, government stepping into how parent raises children, deciding for them what is right and what is wrong, adding social stigma to the violence of family breakup by force."
The government does not have the right to tell parents when and how they educate and expose their offspring to substances that range from coffee to alcohol to cannabis and beyond. What they have is the *POWER* to do it, because they don't care about rights in the first place.
The world is full of mind-altering substances. The effects vary from person to person, but certainly caffeine and sugar are two well known such substances. Some societies have zero problem with a glass of wine with dinner; yet alcohol is a *FAR* more dangerous substance than cannabis (if, of course, you discount the damage the government does -- as anyone who can think with more than one brain cell knows, the dangers of pot smoking are almost exclusively those imposed from without by a violent and forceful government campaign against pot users, sellers and producers.)
No, I don't smoke pot. I'm just appalled by the excesses of the government when it comes to the rights of the individual to decide what goes in their own bodies, and the rights of the parent to decide when and how to introduce their kids to a politically selected set of substances with little to no science behind those choices. - h3nry, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8ummm....
"Or do these people even bother to study the effects THC has on the brain, learning, memory and retention?"
obviously you don't either. if you do a little research you will find no credible evidence to suggest that marijuana has a significant negative effect on memory, learning or retention. at least not according to university level psychology text books, nor any recent studies. there are plenty of recent studies that would tend to suggest otherwise.
i am an undergraduate student right now. i have a grant for the summer to do mathematics research, so far my university transcript shows nothing but A's, and i have smoked weed every single day since long before i started university. i also earned a degree from a technical college before i decided to go to university. i graduated with honors, and was stoned more often than not. last night i had nothing to do, so i got really stoned and worked on a conjecture related to the problem we are investigating, and came up with the most elegant proof...all while stoned out of my bloody mind.
or maybe i just imagined all that, apparently i'm not supposed to remember - superal1394, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12actually, if u use one of the water filtering thingys, your chances of getting cancer from it are knocked to near zero.
- shinynew, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9@fyngyrz
thank you for agrueing for something that you dont even do.
I agree that unless you are alergic to cannabis then the worst thing that can happen to you is getting caught by the police. - acceptab1euname, on 10/12/2007, -11/+18Ugh. Thanks lady, that's just what the responsible adult pot smokers needed! Seriously, who the ***** thinks that smoking *anything* with their ELEVEN YEAR OLD KID is a good idea? And to further damn her parenting skills, she got busted for smoking with her son and his two friends, who've also been smoking with her since they were minors! I can't ***** believe that somebody would be THAT stupid.. People like her should not be permitted to reproduce.
- mtrip, on 10/12/2007, -10/+17Drinking with your 13yr old son would be wrong, but an adult can handle it responsibly. Likewise, smoking pot with your 13yr old son is seriously wrong, but an adult can handle it responsibly. It's not the pot itself, it's the fact that this crazy bitch is sharing drugs with her kid.
- Wardvark, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Did you RTFA fyngrz? It wasn't as if she smoked a bit after a long day of surgury. She was totaly messed up, the mother offered the kids friends cocaine, so I am guessing it wouldn't be too long until the kid got some. In cases like this someone has to step in and remove the child.
- bakatrinh, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Man if my Mom offer pot as a reward for doing good in school, I'd have a 4.5 gpa.
On a side note, this Mom offered her son heroine and cocaine as well which is just crossing the line. - norbiu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Probably not as high as he was.
- kaje, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5omirix:
Obviously, smoking weed doesn't make you a flipping moron, either. Obviously. - kneeare, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9omg who cares? and why is it our buisness how a parent decides to raise their own child
- rjg1021, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Sorry. Not even worth it. Bury me.
- Oline61, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Yeah, all kinds of scare tactics are used in public schools about drugs. In high school they made us watch a video about drug use that claimed "one puff from a marijuana cigarette is instantly addictive", and that "small doses of marijuana can be deadly, or at least crippling". Typical *****.
- tehvsx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I agree with fyngyrz that smoking marijuana should be our problem and not the government's, but I don't think she should have done it with her son's two friends because you know their parents are going to get their panties in a knot about it.
- Tiabin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4In most well-done studies the memory issues associated with marijuana use only lasts as long as the marijuana is in the system. Not that I'm promoting anyone smoke pot, but I know for a fact a lot of the information against it is hyped up *****. (I think there's a LOT more healthy alternatives to pot smoking... whether it be depression, ADD, whatever)
- holotone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I feel that there are many benifts to the "harm reduction" model that has been successful elswhere, and fully believe that decriminalization is an absolutely positive thing. However, even in that best case scenario, what this mother is doing is pretty *****. An adult giving a child a psychoactive (as mild as it may be) as a reward is as irresponsible as giving your daughter a whiskey sour everytime she finishes her algebra homework.
Grupthink's got an interesting poll up regarding the pros and cons of legalization that I thought was quite telling as well:
http://www.grupthink.com/poll/301 - sirmithras, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7I'm in favor of legalizing Marijuana, but some people are just plain crazy
- brandizzle, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Er...well, it might cause cancer because you're smoking...but using a water bong would pretty much eliminate that.
A while back they made up a ***** of things pot supposedly does as scare tactics to get kids away from it (I think I was told it would make me go insane while I was in middle school). Personally I think it's alot better than drinking from 8 am till 10 pm, or smoking two packs a day.
This isn't as uncommon as you might think...I've smoked with quite a few of my friends parents, granted they were all quite a bit older than this kid...but they usually weren't great parents. Any parent who decides to be a friend to their kid has taken the first step toward raising a failure...
Legalizing it would stop alot of people from doing it...most of my friends that did it in 9th or 10th grade said they would stop if they were allowed to do it.
The gateway thing isn't entirely false. Weed doesn't make you want to do harder drugs, but who do you buy it from? A drug dealer. That drug dealer probably wants to sell you as much other ***** as possible. - Korvaras, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I just looked it up. Apparently it can be snorted as well... but is typically injected. Meh. Who knew I guess?
The druggies that's who. - robbh66, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Because when their kids grow up to be complete failures they become a drain on society and then MY tax dollars are spent sustaining their existance.
- kneeare, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3daroach, theres plenty of other kids with no parents at all living in rivers of sewage. If you feel like meddling with somebodys life go to those who need it most, not to some kid who smoked some pot.
- aresef, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Hold up, the mom is 30, the son is 13. Do the math people.
- kalphegor, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5The Stupid Thing I Ever Heard
Are they americans? - Oakes, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3fyngyrz: "Will parents make mistakes? Undoubtedly. Has the government made mistakes? Yes indeed, and the sum of those mistakes has been far, far worse than the sum of the mistakes made by parents who actually *do* have the best interests of their children in mind [...]"
This is called "bait and switch." Wardvark pointed out that this mother was clearly messed up, selling not just pot but heroin and cocaine, and you reply by bashing the government. YES, the government makes mistakes, and YES, most parents love their children, but you're ignoring the marginal cases like the one in the article who DO NOT have their child's interests in mind - cases where the government MUST intervene.
You may believe you have the right to do anything short of killing your five children, but please read the article and refrain from pulling bait-and-switches when debating. - FAT_PIGGY, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7His mom is nice
- elroy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2eh... dope's the safest recreational drug by far, but that doesn't mean it's safer than not smoking at all. you're right, inhaling anything isn't so great -- especially smoke.
- boelder, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Why is it that no one is talking about the smack this kook was snorting and selling? Why is the title of this article about "pot", when the real story is she sells and uses cocaine and heroin?
Who cares about the "pot" part...
sensationalist...
-b - bakatrinh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Uh, did you even read the story? She also offered him other drugs including heroin and cocaine. I think that's along the same line as what your so called "drug dealing *****" are doing.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+9best mom ever.
seriously. - deltaechoromeo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Because now the rest of the world gets to live with the kid and his messed-up childhood. In the end, it all comes down to parenting.
- ilikedonkeykong, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Actually Pacotheparrot I know the neuroimaging studies too. First, for as much of a decrease in activation in some brain areas during card sorting and visual search tasks in habitual smokers, there is an increase of activation in other areas compared to occasional smokers. That is contrary to the view that there is an overall decrease in brain functioning, and pretty interesting as to what is the reason for the reallocation of blood flow. Secondly, after a short period of abstinence the habitual users' brain function show no difference than "normal" functioning.
As to the rest of you who are generally favorable to legalization, or at least support the view that more research into the medical uses of marijuana needs to be done check into your local congressman's stance on the war on drugs. Especially those of you in Indiana's third district. I am a republican, but if I were living there I would vote for just about anyone who would run against Mark Souder. He is the reason the FDA made its announcement last month condemning medical marijuana use, and he also has a bill passed by congress and on its way to the senate touted as a response to the meth epidemic, but also has in it a lot of nonsense about cracking down on marijuana users (and I don't mean treatment for abusers, just more jail time and spending tax dollars on a losing battle). - elShaggy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2you still inhale tar through a bong/bubbler. get some toilet paper and exhale your next hit into it, i garuntee Tar. As long as your not a total pussy and hit the pipe well. Tar has carcinogens therefore CAN cause cancer. But that doesnt mean i dont love my bubblers anyless.
- scott1, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5I hope you don't have kids
- Factionrider, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Not sure if anyone has addressed this because I'm on a schedule and cant read all the comments, but the statements about water bongs eliminating the tar buildup in the lungs is false. It cools the smoke down so it doesn't burn your throat but the only way to remove cancer/tar from the equation is to use a vaporizer to burn only the THC and not the actual marijuana plant.
- ThinkFr33ly, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3A mom who doesn't take the time to make sure her kid does his homework probably does more harm than this mom and the weed.
- kneeare, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2if youre so concerned with not wasting tax dollars why dont you abolish the war on drugs, that will save about 20 billion a year, instead of handling this one person at a time.
- GeneralChang, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2on the plus side this lady is about 10 steps closer to her child, his intrest, and what he's doing compared to ~70% of america. Compared to the number of parents who dont have any idea whats going on with their kids and make things worse by sending to a doctor and having them put on meds?
Bravo, you found a similar intrest with your child, it's miller time! - GuineaPig, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Using a motivation-sapping agent as a reward is hilariously ironic.
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