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- oboshoe, on 01/06/2009, -1/+397 billion.
Just think RIAA. If you had EMBRACED the technology instead of fighting it every step of the way, that 7 billion would be translated into positive revenue.
Instead. You get to sit on the sidelines with your silly subpeonas - sondatch, on 01/06/2009, -0/+22Related by keyword:
Mininova's Torrent Downloads Double to 7 Billion in a Year * Made popular 7 hr 42 min ago
http://digg.com/tech_news/Mininova_s_Torrent_Downl ...
*sigh* - bryano, on 01/06/2009, -1/+23ummm. ***** the RIAA ?
- ardembiniwoot, on 01/06/2009, -1/+21People are getting poorer and poorer... what do you expect?
- smartcause, on 01/05/2009, -4/+187 billion...that's a lot. I bet the RIAA wishes they were so well-loved :)
- mcnees287, on 01/06/2009, -0/+13no mine are all illegal .
- steve9924, on 01/05/2009, -0/+13I think it's hosted offshore...
- oboshoe, on 01/06/2009, -0/+12Many would.
But not all. And that not all translates into real money.
Many just prefer an easy method to acquire legal music.
For example, I really wanted to get Led Zepplin on my IPOD. But at that time (and maybe still), the band had refused to license their music to the Apple store.
So, rather than gladly paying the $2 per song, I found a more expedient method of obtaining their works, that was much cheaper, and didn't involve going to the mall. - mlbwebdesign, on 01/06/2009, -0/+9Wasn't like 5 billion just for The Dark Knight?
- crownedgriffin, on 01/06/2009, -1/+10This is the internets. We care not for your copyrights! AAAAAARRRR!!
- tempusrob, on 01/06/2009, -0/+9Nope, I'm pretty sure people would still be getting their music/movies for free wherever they could.
- Sisko41, on 01/05/2009, -3/+11Thank goodness for Mininova and Demonoid.
- mcnees287, on 01/06/2009, -1/+8they brought it upon themselves honestly
- Brickhaus, on 01/06/2009, -0/+7Now I regret showing all of my idiot co-workers how to use torrents.
- KevinRosa, on 01/06/2009, -0/+5I'M GUILTY!
- Elranzer, on 01/06/2009, -0/+5Don't forget the MPAA.
Especially Sony, lead member of both groups, distributor of rootkits, developer of SecuROM, and proprietor of formats (BetaMax, Minidisc, Atrac, etc). - kvgirard, on 01/06/2009, -2/+7its OVER 9000!!
- kinseyincanada, on 01/06/2009, -0/+5@Darkstar so how the hell are most CDs garbage if you have 28 thousand songs?
- elevatedms, on 01/06/2009, -0/+5Dugg for alliteration!
- mcnees287, on 01/06/2009, -0/+4I find this also to be true. people in the 20-30 age group are really driving torrents.
- Shazbuckle, on 01/06/2009, -0/+4Find and join a good private torrent site where users are made to upload. Cap your upload speed at 70% of its max and also make sure all the right ports are open.
This maxes out speed potential and good torrent sites you will have massive speeds! - jerrycan, on 01/06/2009, -0/+4Where are they taking all that money to?
- mparker21311, on 01/06/2009, -1/+5It doesn't help when the RIAA is suing those people.
- DarkStar3333, on 01/06/2009, -0/+4How is Mininova any different then Google or Yahoo?
From a technical perspective not at all, they act as an information repository and indexing service where no actual files are stored. Torrent sites never really go away, you cut one down and three spring up in its place.
Remember when they went after napster and it was all over the media? That was the best publicity widespread piracy ever could have hoped for. It was no longer "wrong" because everyone else was doing it.
I hope that more artists move away from releasing new albums and instead focus on a few recording few tracks and more touring. - Heiminator, on 01/06/2009, -0/+3you complain about inconsistency of torrents after mentioning limewire???
- bryano, on 01/06/2009, -0/+3Wow, so he has 14 thousand albums ? Sounds rather far-fetched to me.
- borez, on 01/06/2009, -0/+3Right.
- oboshoe, on 01/06/2009, -0/+3@groo
err yea. 99 cents. Was thinking of their TV episode downloads. - Baryn, on 01/06/2009, -0/+3I donate a lot more to charity now.
- Frostek, on 01/06/2009, -0/+3Terrible, terrible news.
- WhiskeyLemur, on 06/30/2009, -0/+3- You can legally listen to music on the radio.
- You can legally watch movies and shows on TV.
- You can legally get books from libraries.
The End. - tekproxy, on 01/06/2009, -1/+3He's talking about buying the CD. 2$ per song is around 15$ per CD.
- groo68, on 01/06/2009, -0/+2I thought it was 99 cents a song.
- kiddcode, on 01/06/2009, -0/+2There was a great presentation posted on digg a while back called "The Pirates Dilemma" where the presenter made a solid case that rampant piracy is a symptom of a real market demand that is not being met. I agree with that view. Check it out on youtube if you're interested.
My guess in this case is that the perceived value of the stuff being downloaded from mininova is significantly lower than what providers want to charge for legal use of it. - WhiskeyLemur, on 06/30/2009, -0/+2"I can understand that the artists and content producers don't just wish to give away content."
I can too, of course - but at the same time, there needs to be a balance between the rights of the seller and the rights of the consumer. I just saw the article about iTunes going DRM-free, and that's a wonderful first step, because the way the system was set up in the past you were, in effect, *renting* the song instead of buying the rights to use it in perpetuity. If you switch to a different MP3 player brand, for instance, you would lose all the content you legitimately paid for. In any number of ways, the DRM system actually *punishes* legitimate users - not just financially, although that's certainly a big draw of freebies, but also by making legally-purchased songs or whatnot a much bigger pain in the ass than their pirated counterparts.
The matter is even worse when it comes to e-books: you have not only DRM, but proprietary formats (which basically lock you into that brand, unless you want to consider yourself as renting the book). And they cost as much (or more) as the paperback editions of the same works, which is absolutely retarded since e-books have none of the material, printing, distribution, stocking, etc expenses associated with moving physical paper. At least with songs you can convince yourself that you're getting a bargain, particularly if you only get two or three pieces from an otherwise filler album; with books, you're paying top dollar for *limited* use of a *limited* format.
As far as movies go - without exaggeration, 90% of the stuff I've "acquired" recently has been utter drek not worth watching. About half of those I didn't even finish watching, they were so bad. I will go to movie theaters for things like "Ironman" and other films which wouldn't look as good on a regular screen AND which make it worth my while to dish out $20-25 for two hours of entertainment for two people. Back when we were in college and could catch a matinee for $5 a person, my husband and I went to the theater literally once or twice a week. Now matinees are out, and evening show prices have skyrocketed, so the entertainment-per-dollar value of films has dropped to the point where we go to movies *maybe* once every three months.
To make a long story short: drop prices, drop the DRM *****, make a better product, MAKE IT WORTH MY DOLLAR - and I'll pay it. I never, for instance, pirate video games, even when it's very feasible, simply because they're worth the asking price. The other media, recently, are not. - diggzoid, on 01/06/2009, -1/+3The amazing part of that is that most people I talk to (40+) have no idea what a torrent is. Many of my son's friends do not know how to use this tech. just think how big this will get as people finally learn what a POS limewire is.
- borez, on 01/06/2009, -1/+3And yet the music and film industry still made huge profits.
- cJw314, on 01/06/2009, -0/+2I wonder how long it will be before the word 'pirate' begins to equate with 'terrorist'...
- gigitrix, on 01/06/2009, -0/+2POPULARITY FAIL!
- subgeniusd, on 01/06/2009, -0/+2Demonoid is so excellent I just don't have the time for any other trackers. But Mininova sure has a lot of cool content....
- tamakino, on 01/07/2009, -0/+2What does the scouter say???
- computershack, on 01/06/2009, -0/+2"Just think RIAA. If you had EMBRACED the technology instead of fighting it every step of the way, that 7 billion would be translated into positive revenue."
Despite Netflix, iTunes et al all offering legitimate ways to download music/video and with ***** of software legally available as a download purchase, the fact that Mininovas torrent traffic has doubled just proves that argument is *****.
Do you honestly think Mininova would see 7 billion downloads or even 1 billion downloads if people had to pay for what they got? No. - DarkStar3333, on 01/06/2009, -0/+1Except that most CD's are garbage.
After being burned in my youth, I will never buy another CD again.
There is nothing worse then spending $20 and realizing the 1-2 good songs you heard on the radio were the only worthwhile tracks on the plastic circle.
My iTunes library is somewhere around 28K songs now. Artist Discographies are much easier to find then old albums. - njhardc0re, on 01/06/2009, -0/+1amen
- Heiminator, on 01/06/2009, -0/+1napster was an easy target due to its central server structure,once they shut it down the entire program stopped working,its gonna be a LOT harder to take down thousands of bittorrent trackers around the world,you have to sue every single operator of one of the trackers in the country of origin
- inactive, on 01/06/2009, -1/+2I've only recently started downloading DVDs I already own and occassionally TV shows that I missed or failed to record on my Media Center. This was the result of a few scratched DVDs that I didn't feel it was right to have to purchase another since it wasn't the DVD that I had paid for, but the right to watch the content.
I'm also starting to rip my collection to hard drive. Again, my DVD purchase entitles me to the use of the content.
Now here is where I have a problem with downloading content. I still feel that if you haven't purchase the content previously then you should purchase that content. I know so many people feel as though they should have the right to download and watch whatever they wish, but it really crosses a line. I've never really figured out how some feel as though they're entitled to watching or listening to something for free. I would love to hear some others explanations. - Heiminator, on 01/06/2009, -0/+1follow shazbuckles advice or try usenet,also,if you know where to look, a few dollars a month for a rapidshare/megaupload/whatever filehoster account might be a good way to invest your money ;-)
- WhiskeyLemur, on 06/30/2009, -0/+1Hint: if you want to sound less like spam, at least make the effort to not mangle English grammar, punctuation, and syntax *quite* so ruthlessly.
- SIDSI, on 01/06/2009, -1/+2buried
- Heiminator, on 01/06/2009, -0/+1@kinseyincanada:
did you read darkstars post?
he stated that the reason he thinks most cds are garbage is that artist have 1-2 good songs on them,and fill up the rest of the disc with 10 ***** songs
so instead of buying retail albums he now downloads individual tracks, those mentioned 1-2 songs of every album,thats why cds are garbage in his opinion,and yet he still has a large music collection -
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