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- Pentath, on 10/12/2007, -19/+88Looks like the PS3 is working its magic.
- dieselstation, on 10/12/2007, -9/+74@bofhcabbit
If Xbox 360 DID have the HD-DVD drive built in.. it would have driven the price up past $600 and thus come under the same complaints as the PS3. Do you think MS would have sold as many 360's as they have? - Okari, on 10/12/2007, -18/+68I'm still sticking to my DVD's.
- kevinmotel, on 10/12/2007, -4/+51i'm sticking to pirating your DVDs
- Philodox, on 10/12/2007, -3/+41I don't see why a pickup truck costs more than compact car. I mean they're both made out of metal and they both use internal combustion. The only difference is the bigger engine, and the extra space in the back.
- DaveBG, on 10/12/2007, -26/+55Congrats Blu-ray,
- coheedcollapse, on 10/12/2007, -7/+34@diggleague
...and DVR capabilities and the ability to run any format video straight from Linux and a growing library of games anlagless internet multiplayer experience and plenty of hard drive space for all sorts of media and non-proprietary peripherals and...
Don't sell the PS3 short. It has plenty of stuff going good for it. The price is the only real downer at this point. - postaboy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+30B-b-bb-but according to Digg and the extremely vocal minority of Sony haters that roam this site; Blu-Ray was supposed to lose the war..I guess now you guys can shut the ***** up
- HerrEisenheim, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26Aside from your obvious missteps in logic, it takes a lot more power to render 1080p video than it does 480i/p.
- Philodox, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25I hope you have a wicked fast connection to get that 30GB of information.
- aapala, on 10/12/2007, -4/+26I love how everytime a blu-ray or hddvd story is on dig EVERY COMMENT IS ABOUT THE PS3 AND XBOX 360. If I didn't know better, I would think that everyone who comments about these stories is a total ***** fanboy.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -11/+32I love Resistance on PS3. So yes, I am enjoying PS3 games. Haven't turned on my 360 since I got the PS3.
- magic6435, on 10/12/2007, -6/+27@bofhcabbit
Microsoft could not include hd-dvd on the system because hd dvd drives read normal dvd discs really really slow. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+24"How many of these were ones given away with a PS3 purchase?"
Zero. Those weren't even counted (in the one milllion).
More were given away than one million. - plbland, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21You just answered your own question.
- dboy3587, on 10/12/2007, -5/+21and i thought laser dics were cool!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -12/+27yeah, ask Microsoft, it buys it's own surplus of X360's!
10 million or 4 hmmmm! - FrankieB078, on 10/12/2007, -11/+25Wasn't the CEO of Xbox or something in EGM last month saying that the consumer is choosing HD-DVD? What kind of rock is he smoking?
- Jerim, on 10/12/2007, -11/+25Sony has built the PS3 toward the future, I believe. From built in wi-fi, to blu-ray, I think Sony is looking at the 4-6 years down the line, and not really at the first two to three years of the PS3's life. While Sony takes its well deserved lumps now, it will be interesting to see how the PS3 is viewed a few years from now. Even when compared against the next gen consoles coming out at that time, it should have a much lower price point with comparable features. Not that I am a Sony fan boy.
- timjbart, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18@merrychristmass What a thoughtful contribution to the debate
- darkamster07, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15"CEO of Xbox" WTF?
- JohnA, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11I'm curious, though. I wonder how much of this success is due to the fact that Sony owns a Movie Studio, and therefore a back catalog, whereas Toshiba does not.
Personally, I have an HD-DVD player, and when it works, it's amazing. Of course, the damn thing locks up more often than my old Windows 95 box. - lorductape, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13looks like blu-ray owes james bond a great deal.
- nreynolds, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11I've been pretty much playing my PS3 and 360 equally, but I haven't played any 360 games in months, just Halo 2. But I've been playing Motorstorm a lot and I just downloaded the C & C demo for 360. So basically, they're both = fun time.
- bofhcabbit, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12@dieselstation: That's definitely something to consider. I'm not sure. Even if they were priced identically, the Xbox 360 seems like a better deal to me so I think it'd take a hit but still be successful.
@magic6435: Really? I didn't know that at all. Sadly enough, that's way more likely to make me want to reconsider a purchase than the price jump adding hd-dvd would incur. Load times are evil.
Actually, unrelated tangent re: load times. Someone brought up the idea of bringing back cartridges to me the other day. I was skeptical, but then I thought about how cheap and big flash memory is. It almost makes sense, in a way. - Thorlord, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12i was rooting for HD-DvD.
then i realized that it doesnt matter to me personally.
if Blu-Ray comes on top, hurray, i can get a HD player finally,
if HD-DvD comes on top, hurray, i can get an HDDVD player finally.
so if blu-ray does win the format war, then i will probably end up getting one. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13Yogi...because the PS3 just came out in Europe.
You can try to make it look like Blu-Ray is nt winning, but you just look foolish. Accept it and move on. - Philodox, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Investment in ISP infrastructure has pretty much stagnated. Considering that well under half of the U.S. doesn't have broadband yet, let alone something that could handle streaming true HD video, I think you're reasonably looking at a five to ten year timeframe before streaming HD video happens. Whereas you can get HD video now if you go down to the local video store.
Verizon FIOS is a step in the right direction. - apoc06, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11you should go back and actually read the translated version of the source of that article. those walmart players are actually blu-ray players.
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=231783&cid=18843479
you cant believe everything you read on someone's blog. - meepus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Hardware to interpret the HD video codec and incorporate all that DRM to boot ends up being expensive. Think of the cost of an iPod and subtract the actual cost (what Apple pays, not retail) of the internal harddrive. Where's all that money going? The thought process that follows will answer your question. That, and manufacturing those discs is a lot more difficult right now. Later, when they develop equipment better suited to it, things will be cheaper.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Hehe, cheering for a company or a company's downfall. You are a tool indeed.
- Deuterium, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8And you're still a virgin, so what?
- spidoman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6No, there isn't a big difference because every company counts the same way. Number sold to retailers. It's impossible to get accurate numbers on actual amount sold to individual consumers.
- HyperJack, on 10/12/2007, -7/+13@postophaguser
doesn't that inlude you too? - ilostmydrink, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8@ urusai
Blu-Ray and HD-DVD are so expensive because it takes a lot of money to develop a new technology. Think of how many hours engineers spent on finding the right wavelength of LASER that would read the amount of data they want to put on a disk. Add to that the amount of hours it took to develop the devices that stamp the dimples in the disk. Add to that the factory overhead associated with the development of this technology. Add to that all the other things I left out that it took to develop this technology.
What comes out is a technology they can sell to "early adopters" at a higher rate just because they want to have the new stuff first. The price will eventually come down because of competition, and as with all electronics, will become obsolete over time. - polyGone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I just had to write a paper on this in my Audio/Video class. I never realized it, but Blu-ray's capacity and expandability is much better than HD-DVD. Theoretically Blu-ray can hold 100-200 GB on a multi-layer disc, where HD is something to the effect of 39 GB on a dual sided disc.
- Angmar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@apoc06
HD-DVDs also uses a blue laser, but there might be something to the TDK reference. But they also talk about using the existing DVD plant to produce the discs, which is only possible with HD-DVD.
So really we don't really know which HD format Wal-Mart has chosen. - biochem, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6@bofhcabbit "Actually, unrelated tangent re: load times. Someone brought up the idea of bringing back cartridges to me the other day. I was skeptical, but then I thought about how cheap and big flash memory is. It almost makes sense, in a way."
in a way it does make sense. The load times would be minuscule, no scratching.. But then i realized the current capacity of hd dvd and bluray and realized there is no way making flash with that capacity would make economical sense. Maybe one day though. - nreynolds, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@ Yogitw
maybe the whole market in Europe is about the same but the HD market right now is WWAAAYYYY smaller. The percentages are reversed but the actual sales are tiny and thus the difference between sales is almost unnoticeable. - uidzero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Not really. Remember when DVDs first hit the market they were $25-35 a peice. The fact most of the new HD DVDs and BR DVDs are only $20-25 is quite good and on par for this type of technology.
- bofhcabbit, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6It probably owes something to the fanboy factor, but these are the two most prevalent places that the technology shows up.
The average consumer is still only barely aware of these formats. They might have seen the section at blockbuster once but didn't know what it was, and that's about it. Gamers largely seem to be the only ones who care at this point. - stenk, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9@arctirus
I bet you are about 15 years old!
You are a tool! - plbland, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5True. We have a similar issue in the UK.
I'm sure the demand will pull the telecoms into action.
I guess I just don't care about HD as much as I do getting my content almost instantly - which I guess means my existence in this discussion is pointless. :p - plbland, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9'...going to be downloading...'
I agree we aren't quite there yet for HD streams, but considering a couple of years ago I was on 512k (56k not long before that) and now I'm on 8Mb... I'm not too worried.
A few years ago I couldn't stream a music file... now I can download films of pretty decent quality faster than I can watch them. - getliquified, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4so true
- dogstar0125, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7I stopped buying DVDs when the studios started manufacturing defects in them as part of their copy protection strategy. I don't care what format it is, if studios are going to pull this ***** on us, I'm not buying it.
- aristotle0dude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You might be right or maybe I've just outgrown most games. I'm waiting for Grand Turismo 5.
Since buying my PS3 about 2 weeks ago, I've bought 12 Blu-ray movies and 0 games although I have played a few demos including GT HD Concept. - zdiggler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Damn,, I don't even have a working DVD player...
- zulhadm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@ilostmydrink I actually disagree here. Times have changed. With a computer in every home (and probably a console or two at this point) technology has a much bigger place in daily living. I think when you look at how successful the iPOD is over other mp3 players is a good example of how people in today's world actually care about quality. The larger limitations and ultimately higher quality and possibilities with blu-ray will (and is) making it the platform leader.
- zulhadm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3too bad for you there is also a $300 Blu-Ray player: http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/18/pioneer-hits-china-with-300-bdc-s02-blu-ray-drive/ might also want to know your source. That Walmart "HD-DVD Player" probably isn't an HD-DVD Player. it might be a Blu-Ray or a combo drive. http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/004185.html
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