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- phpirate, on 10/12/2007, -19/+66If websites like digg and youtube can be cross browser compatible, then why can't the homepage of a multi-billion dollar corperation? Answer: they're lazy and expect people to conform to their standards. They're discouraging choice.
- Grimdotdotdot, on 10/12/2007, -2/+45Looks like his brain couldn't cope with the reply button either.
- tychop, on 10/12/2007, -5/+43You mean your brain didn't cope with the message? I understood it. My 12 yr old kid understands it. Spelling mistakes happen. Get over it.
- chris9902, on 10/12/2007, -1/+29to be fair it's not there NEW homepage it's a development page.
When I work on a site I make it work in FF then edit it as I need for it to work with Opera, Saf and IE. The only differance is 10mln people a day don't visit my sites so just wait for it to become there real homepage before you get your panties in a twist. - flash200, on 10/12/2007, -7/+31MS has the right to discourage people from visiting their website, if they want to.
In fact... it might be useful to have less traffic on my own website. I'll start by only supporting Opera 3.5 or earlier. - natmaster, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25That's an extension.
- enovakrss, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20dunno, I went to this new site: http://preview.microsoft.com/en/us/default.aspx
yesterday and today. it is the regular microsoft.com. with IE, it is a brand new homepage (which is lame, though). It's different, I don't know what you all saw. - ajifans, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19They should at least give Firefox/Opera users a suitable error message. How about something like:
"I'm sorry but the browser you are using appears not to be obsolete and riddled with security flaws. Please reinstall IE6". - KF6BBL, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Are you guys too lazy to open up two browsers to check this out?
If you open it in IE, it shows the PREVIEW to the new home page.
If you open it in FF, it redirects to the existing home page, no preview.
I am guessing that after the article in infoweek, they changed it from 'page not found' to redirect to the current home page, just to make it less obvious that they absolutely hate FF and everyone that uses it. But deep down in their black hearts I'm sure they're nice folks. - benthere, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Here's what happened:
MS released preview site.
They made it IE only.
Firefox was redirected to a page not found.
After that article was published, they changed it to redirect to the old microsoft.com page.
It fooled several people into marking inaccurate. So I guess MS's little trick worked.
But the actual preview page is still IE only. - seventoes, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18To all the people who are about to say "It works for me, and im in firefox...", read the article first, so you know what the hell were talking about. It does not work in firefox.
- IQ70, on 10/12/2007, -0/+121. this was on the front page 2 days ago
2. its a preview site, doesnt work with firefox NOW.
3. the preview site doesnt work well with firefox hence it is not being shown to firefox users.
4. the preview site is slow with IE also.
5. its a preview site.
6. its a preview site in beta testing - sebflipper, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Works if you use the User Agent Switcher extension from: http://chrispederick.com/work/useragentswitcher/
- lordkosc, on 10/12/2007, -7/+17No need to even visit M$ft's site anymore , I'm on the road of Linux and never turning back!
- IAmAI, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Lots of reason. Some people use other Microsoft products, even if they don't use Internet Explorer.
- IAmAI, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Let me just point out the article is referring to the *preview* of Microsoft's new site, which is preview.microsoft.com not www.microsoft.com.
- doctabu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9@Mathiasdm:
Realizing you are using a much better operating system. Sort of a... pick-me-up extension. - konradk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7IE and FF come up with two different pages, the article is not inaccurate. You need to use both browsers, not only checking if it displays a page in FF.
- Jether, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Works fine for me in Firefox, however it does re-direct to the current microsoft.com homepage, not a preview. But there is not a page not found error.
- 3monkeys, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Did you look at the home page link or just the link on this news item which is actually the point of this story? Not trying to cause a flame war, just asking.
- duzytata, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Visiting This Site: http://preview.microsoft.com/en/us/default.aspx
In Firefox: http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5126/ffak9.jpg
In IE: http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/2034/ielt2.jpg
Since that is sorted out... - IAmAI, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11Of course they, but it would be a stupid idea.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I don't get it. Say 'Linux' and everybody free-associates communists.
Heard of the American revolution? Know why America had it? Because one monarch ruled half the Earth and they were sick of it. So they took over the country so they could govern it themselves.
So we have one monarch ruling 90% of the technology world. We're sick of it; we want to take over technology so we the people can rule it ourselves. I see paralells to democracy, not contrasts. - Septimus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Live wasn't FF compatible at first. They will get around to it.
Get over it. - cr3ative, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Because you want to access the millions of pages that aren't related to Internet Explorer?
Take a moment to think about that one. - Noddegamra, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6"User Agent Switcher" says differently.
I tried it with my UA as IE6, and I went to the preview site. It actually worked faster in FF than in IE. - Corvillus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4It does work in Firefox, but you have to switch to IE's user agent. The page itself looks and works fine functionalitywise though, this is purely Microsoft doing some stupid server-side user agent checking for little or no reason.
- wirah, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9Very true! ubuntu got be started. Long live linux
- Valhalla, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I just wanted to point out something that I don't think has been mentioned yet, while it loads the preview for IE but not FF, it also does not load the preview for Safari (apple default browser)
I always find websites not working in different browsers just a little humorous, I've hand coded HTML and Java (at least at basic levels) and it seems you would have to try harder to make it not altogether with one browser.
Oh well its not like I have too much need to be on the Microsoft site really, except to think about buying office for the apple when I need it (hopefully it will be universal at that point.) - matthias00, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Yeah, I tested it with both Firefox and IE.
Using Firefox, it redirects to their original homepage, while with IE it goes to the preview page.
This is, of course, A HUGE DEAL. - Clbck, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I got same results as Jether did on XP.
- barnis, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5yeah you pretty much nailed my opinion. Without CERN, IEEE, and the ITU the internet would just be a bunch of proprietary networks trying to "compete" for the market. Thanks to social organizations like this, capitalist insticts can be curbed a bit in the name of compatability. Name one thing MS has done to improve the Internet? Hotmail (bought it and buried it) .NET (opps) ActiveX (oops)...etc
- JerMe, on 10/12/2007, -22/+24Works fine here. Marked as inaccurate.
- bobbob1016, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The thing that I think is wrong of Microsoft is that the page DOES load in FF, (haven't tried it in opera). All you need is an extension called "UserAgent Switcher" it changes your browser ID to say Mozilla (MSIE 6) or something. Once I put that in, it works fine. That is Microsoft just being an ass, it is one thing if it is a bank's site, and they need to be 100% sure that their FF security settings work as well as their IE counterparts, it is another when it is just a page with a search box.
- fumey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Agreed Beaver. Most developers approach from the other end, make it compatible with FF and standards then make it work in IE. It's more than logical for MS to approach it from their side IE ->FF.
- chandrasonic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Digg that story instead of this duplicate.
http://www.digg.com/tech_news/Microsoft_com_redesign_preview_that_doesn_t_work_with_Firefox - Garda, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3This has been said before but I'll repeat it once again.
http://preview.microsoft.com/en/us/default.aspx
is the preview to Microsoft's developmental homepage. Everything works nicely for IE users but users of other browsers get redirected to microsoft.com, which looks similar but not the same.
Of interest may be that when changing my user agent to
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)
that's IE6 running on XP
and still using firefox i was able to view all of the content properly.
also, when using the regular FF user agent string, but with javascript disabled, I was NOT redirected, even though FF sends the user agent even when javascript is disabled.
I personally don't think that this is something significant, it's only a test page. - BobTurbo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I wish, instead of just redirecting Firefox users to a different site, Microsoft would inject a virus into their browsers that prevented the users from posting comments on the web.
- jellygraph, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2for all those idiots who keep saying, works fine, inaccurate, its been fixed in the last few days, but it still doesn't go to the proper preview site
- McoreD, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This is nice. MS is using AJAX.
- piznut, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Firefox 1.5.0.5...works just fine for me. Im seeing the exact same page in IE.
- Beaver6813, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Bah, ive posted this before, as this is a duplicate story. But its obvious that it isn't ready for firefox and that they just want to get the preview up asap.
Programming it for both other and ie browsers takes longer, so by just programming for ie it take less time. Whilst everyone using ie is looking at the purdy new site, the programmers can work on the compatibility.
What is so hard in that for you to understand! Im tired of the 'lets just jump on the bandwagon' type attitude. - twitndiggfan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1change the user agent using the user agent switcher to IE 6 on Windows XP, and it works like a pro, but theres nothing on there that's not on the current page. BTW, it works on OS X too
- cwcheang, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i like how some stories get marked as possibly inaccurate.. especially front page stories.. but i have yet to see a story marked as LAME. it would be funny i guess if a front page story says: Warning: Reported as diggers as possibly lame. =D
- tarun88, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Thanks for pointing out that it's a duplicate story, chandrasonic. :)
The original story was on the frontpage just yesterday!
*A.D.D.* - gizmo490, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Maybe Microsoft did this because they are annoyed about www.ie7.com.
- nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If www.redhat.com, www.novell.com, www.gentoo.org, www.kernel.org, etc. didn't work in IE trust me you'd hear about it. Some idiot who makes an FF only page (for the public) is just as bad or worse than someone who does an IE only page. You judge millions of FF users by "a handful of sites"? Bravo on that logic.
This is big because it's MS. Saying that, I think when it's live then people can bitch. Now it's like people complaining about beta versions of Vista. - brotherjohn1234, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1My IE6 shows a javascript-error --- nice :)
- JorgeGT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1who cares about you mutual linuxterbation?
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