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- skidork, on 11/12/2009, -12/+137I'm pretty sure Vista inspired Windows 7...
- Lucas123, on 11/12/2009, -7/+102I thought Windows itself was inspired by Apple when Gates stole the idea of the GUI from them, which Apple took from Xerox. Then of course both Apple and Microsoft just go back and forth stealing from each other: http://www.infoworld.com/d/windows/apple-versus-mi ...
- robszol, on 11/12/2009, -2/+72"I'm fired aren't I."
- mkriss5681, on 11/12/2009, -19/+61Microsoft has made billions by taking others ideas and improving upon it.
Lotus123 > Excel
WordPerfect > Word
Paintshop > Publisher
Presentation > Powerpoint
Apple System 6/7 > Windows 3.1
OS8 > Windows 98
OSX > Vista/Win7
Playstation > XBox
The list goes on. The fact is Microsoft has decimated the originals to a minuscule market share because their products were better. There is no shame in it. You could make the argument against some of the OSs but the fact is Microsoft's sales are the final decider. Right now it looks like Win7 is going to be a very competitive OS. - twiztidsinz, on 11/12/2009, -13/+48Shush you... the children are bashing Windows.
- Mr_Lyle, on 11/12/2009, -5/+35Is this gonna become today's designated battleground for the Operating Systems' Jehovah's Witnesses?
Hello, have you accepted Windows 7 as you personal savior?
Hello, have you accepted OSX as you personal savior?
Hello, have you accepted Linus as your personal savior? - nahsrocketeer75, on 11/12/2009, -4/+34The wheels on the bus go round and round, over man, round and round
- alphadoggs, on 11/12/2009, -25/+54Honesty never pays
- Frixionburne, on 11/12/2009, -6/+35Actually, they didn't pay jack ***** compared to what it was worth. Xerox sold it because they thought it was "useless technology".
- specialK16, on 11/12/2009, -10/+38holy ***** ***** man, I didn't know Apple invented retail stores!!!!
- IphtashuFitz, on 11/12/2009, -1/+28Nah, he just has a new job description: "Personal Chair Throwing Target to Steve Ballmer".
- Mr_Lyle, on 11/12/2009, -0/+23Typo aside, it's this guy. Point remains intact.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds - OnipSemaj, on 11/12/2009, -3/+25To say that the entire OS was inspired from OS X is just wrong. Windows 7 is an *evolution* of Vista, just as Vista was of XP, and so on. I don't doubt that some ideas and features were inspired from OS X or even Linux, but not the entire OS - that would imply that Windows 7 written from scratch.
- Wristo, on 11/12/2009, -4/+25Actually, according to their marketing, I inspired Windows 7.
- doctechnical, on 11/12/2009, -2/+20The one with the blanket.
- Tommmmmm, on 11/12/2009, -5/+23So, Apple stole right click.
- Nerotique, on 11/12/2009, -13/+29Apple didn't take it from Xerox. They paid handsomely for it.
- laserfish, on 11/12/2009, -2/+18DO NOT COMMENT!
- LonesomeFighter, on 11/12/2009, -11/+27well then Apple stores are a ripoff of regular outlet stores
- rlbond86, on 11/12/2009, -1/+17Too bad Apple didn't steal inspiration to resize windows from a corner other than the bottom-right.
- Lucas123, on 11/12/2009, -4/+19More like necessitated.
- procuro, on 11/12/2009, -2/+16Nerotique, Xerox were the ones investing in Apple at the time. They invited Apple's design team to view their GUI which they outright gave away because Xerox didn't see the kind of potential that Apple did. Later Xerox filed a lawsuit to try and claim a copyright against the GUI but it was dismissed because the statute of limitations in this situation (3 years in this case) had already passed. Apple didn't pay a dime for the GUI.
- ljkelley, on 11/12/2009, -10/+22Ya, except the fact that this person didn't even work for the Windows Team, so doesn't know directly where if anywhere they got inspired to create the new Windows 7 look.
- Balanced, on 11/12/2009, -5/+17Things can be inspired by multiple other things.
- captainproton, on 11/12/2009, -0/+11@procuro -- Xerox did make a tidy sum from the deal, though:
From WikiPedia
In return for US$1,000,000 of pre-IPO stock, Xerox granted Apple Computer three days access to the PARC facilities. During this time, Apple Computer purchased an opportunity for its engineers (in exchange for Apple stock shares) to observe and study Xerox's interpretation of GUI or "WIMP" interfaces in the PARC project."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Apple#The_ ... - falafelkiosken, on 11/12/2009, -4/+15no way Microsoft has ever borrowed any features from Apple's operative systems /s
that said, Apple has done the same, and so do everyone in the OS business, attempting to deny that is just ridiculous - DeathToaster, on 11/12/2009, -4/+15Yeah. Right. And the Apple Store inspired the Microsoft Store. You people and your crazy theories.
- gcnaddict, on 11/12/2009, -1/+11The guy who said the original comment (which Microsoft now slammed) had nothing to do with the Windows development process. He was essentially a corporate salesman looking to get his name out there.
- se7envii, on 11/12/2009, -0/+10Anyone company that doesn't get at least some inspiration from their competitors aren't doing their job properly.
- doctechnical, on 11/12/2009, -2/+12I think the settings on your time-travel device are just a bit off. This is not the time line you remember.
- twiztidsinz, on 11/12/2009, -4/+14LOUD NOISES!
- bringitontimx, on 11/12/2009, -1/+10Interestingly, the 360 runs a PowerPC-architecture CPU. Talk about putting it to good use.
- uilhao, on 11/12/2009, -2/+10Look at the bright side, it has Vista's stable core!
- milkmage, on 11/12/2009, -2/+10
READ THE ***** ARTICLE
When asked about Windows 7, Aldous responded in part:
One of the things that people say an awful lot about the Apple Mac is that the OS is fantastic, that it’s very graphical and easy to use. What we’ve tried to do with Windows 7 – whether it’s traditional format or in a touch format – is create a Mac look and feel in terms of graphics. We’ve significantly improved the graphical user interface, but it’s built on that very stable core Vista technology, which is far more stable than the current Mac platform, for instance. - digitalArtform, on 11/12/2009, -0/+8...when everyone knows the inspiration came from Xerox PARC
- DerangedPenguin, on 11/12/2009, -0/+8NTFS > HPFS OS2/Warp
FAT was a sort of cheap rip off of CP/M's file system as I recall... Much preferred CP/M over DOS on my Heathkit H100 http://www.mynewoffice.com/pcmuseum/Heatkit24ed.jp ... "DISCLAIMER THE PICTURE IS NOT MY H100, WHICH IS CURRENTLY TUCKED AWAY IN THE BACK OF MY CLOSET." - topgigmedia, on 11/12/2009, -3/+10why wouldn't you borrow from OSX? It is a great user experience.
- kdogg73, on 11/12/2009, -12/+19iPod > Zune
- justdanne, on 11/12/2009, -1/+8If you are going to make that point at least tell us something that Apple actually stole from Microsoft and not the other way around.
- macslut, on 11/12/2009, -2/+9@Harabeck,
Yes, pretty much it did. In the original development, there were three buttons. There were numerous variations in how the buttons worked, and what the interface was to work with them, but the one with the most traction before there was an order to consolidate into one button was that the right button brought up menu items as opposed to the left for general clicking. That's not exactly the same as the right-click today, but it's pretty close.
Once the Apple team moved the menu into a bar at the top, the right click wasn't needed. Once they enabled the double-click, the middle button wasn't needed. ("needed" of course relative to what was going on at the time).
In terms of using the right-click for contextual menus like today, that was even a part of what Apple got from Xerox. NEXTSTEP (Job's company) then expanded on this in 1989 to where it pretty much is today. Microsoft had a right-click, but it wasn't a contextual menu right-click in the OS itself until Windows 95.
But again, I don't care who steals from whom, as long as we get the best mix of both. - LightSpeed4, on 11/12/2009, -2/+9someone just got fired.
- BullBearMS, on 11/12/2009, -0/+6The Xerox Alto computer had a three button mouse. So did SRI's oN-Line System (NLS) which was the first actual computer using a windows and mouse interface, whose ideas Xerox's Alto was based on.
- jeremymccurdy, on 11/12/2009, -0/+6To be fair, if the guy had nothing to do with the design work on Windows 7, he's just spouting personal opinion more than something that was the company's intention. Of course everyone borrows from and is inspired by their competitors, that's an integral part of competition.
- topgigmedia, on 11/12/2009, -6/+12Selling the most of something doesn't that product is necessarily superior. It means it is affordable.
- Laminarcissus, on 11/12/2009, -1/+7He's the one that codes in Lucy and works for Peanuts.
- vibr8, on 11/12/2009, -1/+7windows stole the concept of 'windows' from apple, which is quite amusing :D
- OnipSemaj, on 11/12/2009, -1/+7I think you've got the general idea right, just that you got things reversed.
- Asheis, on 11/12/2009, -1/+6as in writing and art - using effective features from one piece in your own original doesn't mean you stole it or that it's a bad thing at all - microsoft is improving upon OSX, and OSX will probably improve upon W7. In the end it means a higher quality product for consumers, which is perfect.
- krisrm, on 11/12/2009, -2/+7Why do people just blindly assume that Microsoft's way of doing things leads to instability? The registry is a tradeoff, not a complete disadvantage, as is the existence of shared DLLs. All you're doing is spouting Apple's marketing rhetoric, with no idea of how an operating system actually works.
- Pinhedd, on 11/12/2009, -0/+5Microsoft has never really shown devotion to a single architecture... just look at Windows 2000. They'll use whatever serves their purpose best.
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