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- zone, on 10/12/2007, -3/+70hey u lied.. they killed nothing..
"Well, they're not really killing it per se, they're just renaming it. In line with its other Windows Live services, Passport will be renamed to Windows Live ID, and will be used to authenticate users on Windows Live, Office Live, Xbox Live, MSN, and other Microsoft services."
i don't get the joke, really.. :/ - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+37in soviet russia, internet wanders into you!
- captaindan, on 10/12/2007, -4/+28Inaccurate. They're just renaming it.
- Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -7/+20Wow. I can only assume you've just wandered onto this Internet thing.
- ynggrsshppr, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17Yeah I don't get why some people are against it either, as long as it makes things easier for me, it's all good.
- tobsterius, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14Microsoft was originally marketing passport as a great solution to the never ending problem of forgetting which password you used for various different sites. Their goal was not only to unify their services(MSN, Hotmail, messenger, etc) but also unify the internet by having one user name and password for everysite that adopted the passport technology.
The idea sounds great on paper, but in practice it just can't work. It's too risky to have one user name and password that could give access to senstive and personal data over multiple sites. If one site with passport was hacked, that passport ID and password could then be used to get access into other sites that also adopted the passport technology. - jasonprussell, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17How is it more frustrating? Let's see, enter your email address and password and click a button. How do Google and Yahoo do it? Retinal scanner? Implanted RFID? Come on people.
- 16x9, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15And there's the pun "Microsoft finally kills Passport. Long Live Passport."
- unicom, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13damn strait just cause its microsoft the mac fanboys have to beat on the idea. there is nothing wrong with passport its the same as any other log in. matter a fact i like passport, its a lot easier you dont have to make 3 accounts only 1
- stutteringstan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10"Microsoft this week revealed that it will finally kill off its once-reviled Passport system, which is uses for universal Web logon. And we all breathe a sigh of relief." -- msaleem
"Haha... I'm just glad we're one painful MS hindrance less in the world." -- msaleem
"Well at least someone got the pun" -- msaleem
Nice save-ass. It's only obvious from your original post that you didn't read past the first sentence of the article. Congrats for getting to the front page with this piece. - AhmedF, on 10/12/2007, -6/+12Someone has trouble reading the article. Lame.
- tindenver, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8"If one site with passport was hacked, that passport ID and password could then be used to get access into other sites that also adopted the passport technology."
Not true. Sites that use Passport authentication don't have access to your password. That's why you are redirected over to the Passport site and back again after you are authenticated. - PathDaemon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"Windows Live ID"
Is this an improvement?? - Nessguy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Even though not many sites use it, I've always found it nice to only have one username and password for all the Microsoft stuff I'm signed up for.
- brainache, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10No the reason it sucks is that it logs you out every fricking minute. Sometimes its logged in, sometimes its not logged in but remembers your email adress, sometimes you log in and it gives you some error message, sometimes you log in and it signs you out straight away, sometimes... you get the picture. I never got it to work with me reliably. Maybe it just had something against me.. i dont know. I dont use Hotmail or any web-based MS service any more, just MSN messenger, and even then not the actual client, so i really didn't care that it sucked. I hope this new Live thing will be much better. Lets hope they redesign the back-end as well as the front.
- WackyT, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"LONG LIVE OPEN SOUCE!
DOWN WITH THE EVIL MICROSOFT EMPIRE!"
- Anonymous
No need to say anymore about why open sou(r)ce software isn't growing in popularity.
Bet he even entered this comment on his pirated Windows XP machine. - yihpin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I don't understand what's so terrible about Passport. The fact that a user would sign up for a passport meant that they felt that at least one service was pretty good. Even if every other service they had was bad, why is the passport login itself bad? No one's being forced to use all the other services, and if the user wanted to try out Microsoft's other web apps they could do so very easily.
- alexw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Meh, you're not missing much :P.
Here's the articles context, for those of you who cannot view the site:
"Microsoft this week revealed that it will finally kill off its once-reviled Passport system, which is uses for universal Web logon. Well, they're not really killing it per se, they're just renaming it. In line with its other Windows Live services, Passport will be renamed to Windows Live ID, and will be used to authenticate users on Windows Live, Office Live, Xbox Live, MSN, and other Microsoft services. Passport was first launched way back in 1999 and was originally designed to sit at the middle of a massive suite of services, including the ill-fated "Hailstorm," an attempt by the software giant to bring universal Web logon and other Web services to businesses. But fear not, Microsoft fans, the company hasn't given up: It's developing a technology called InfoCard that, yes, will attempt to provide business users with universal Web logon. They'll get you eventually." - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I am not sure I understand the passport controversy. It was a box that you entered your username and password into? Am I missing something? Was it the the word "passport"?
/Serious question. - andreo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I can see that tons of people making comments on this non-story doesn't even know what passport is. It's simply having one user name and password to log into all the sites that you visit that require you to log in.
There are several sites that I visit that use Passport (most MS sites). Some of these sites I will only visit a couple of times a year (such as MS's certification site). I can tell you right now that I would not remember what user name and password I used at a site that I've not been to for a year. But since it's a passport site I don't have to. The alternative is either never forgetting a user name or password (which just aint gonna happen) or writting it down, which you may as well have printed on a tee-shirt since it's about as safe.
Also MS doesn't have any information on you from that site. As well as that site not having your logon information. So someone can hack the sites that you visit all they want, they may find out dirty little secrets about you, but they won't find your login information.
I'd also like to know just how many people on digg use a different user name and password for *every* site that they visit. - lionwilson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I actually like Passport. I've never had a problem with it, and it's saved me from having to sign up for a bunch of different accounts on all of Microsoft's sites.
- bacon_skoda, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4i don't know if it still does this now, but when you install windows, it ask you to make a passport account.
I don't think it was clear to the user what it was. almost seemed like a requirement to upgrade windows.
I don't like the idea of going to staples.com and logging to MS to buy something.
can you imagine if MS owned the password market/standard? - MadMan459, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6I love the way people are digging this and commenting on how great it is that Passport is gone... WHEN IT ISN'T.
READ THE ARTICLE.
sheesh. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Try clicking once on the "back" button after being directed to the Passport login from another site -- you'll get redirected right back to the Passport login -- I hate that.
But in defense of the Passport IDEA, I like it. I wish more sites used a universal login. I wish postboard systems (phpBB, vBulletin) used one. Lastly, I trust Microsoft with my contact and login information. - msaleem, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Once again, I'm sorry for this debacle.
- brandonhines, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Good to know you read the article before you posted it.
- dampjam, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5You guys obviously have no idea how passport actually works. The site that receives your credentials only sees one long string, you can go to passport.com to see it yourself. You authorize through passport.com what information they can see. Passport sites cannot even see what username you used to login. If one is hacked, they still could not figure out what your username is. Only hacking passport.com could do anything.
And Kerberos (what most *NIX) people use relies on the same concept, "put all your eggs in one basket, and watch that basket very carefully). - WackyT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Somebody ought to make an open source dictionary for all the fanboyz.
- msaleem, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Well how about digging a story without reading it? And fine, it was a mistake. No need to be THAT bitter about it.
- alexw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Sheesh, do you people who submit stories ever *read* what you're posting? The article clearly states that Microsoft is just renaming the service. The passport service will stay, but under a different name.
And yes, I know that many other people posted what I said. Erm... I'm just emphasizing this more. Yeah, that's what it is >_>. - msaleem, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You know what, here's an admission: I read the headline, got excited, and posted it without reading it. Am I a moron? Well if yes, then there are 600 more like me who did the same thing, no?
- sishgupta, on 10/12/2007, -6/+8Whats with the massive ammount of misleading titles lately.
The digg is innacurate, but the story is good. - NoSpeakoIngles, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I Don't really see a problem with passport. People that sign up obviously want to use whatever Microsoft service they are using whether it be hot mail or MSN messenger. Why not make it easier for that same person to try other Microsoft services without having to fill out and sign up for a completely new user name and password. Its not a question of whether their apps or services "suck" its about ease of use for their customers.
- msaleem, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Actually sometimes they force you to sign up for passport. Just like you need to switch to a yahoo_id to use flickr (yeah that was annoying). And once you get passport for one service it pesters to be linked to others... lame really..
- suprfli, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Call me crazy but I like the idea of logging in once and then having access to multiple MS sites. What's so terrible about that? I can understand that logging into multiple sites may be more secure but it depends on how the security is built.
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http://www.southbeachcasa.com - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This just shows that a great title gets a lot of press, even if it's not true
- WackyT, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Retarted? Are you Anonymous?
- furtwan1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They technically COULD BE killing passport when Vista launches. They are creating a new system called InfoCard based on web services (w3c standard) so that other non-MS systems can easily work with it. Pretty sweet technology, and is done it the 'correct' way. ie, though standards. A video was just on Channel9 about it.
- mike_p, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What do you mean work properly for you? It's pretty simple for any novice to setup...
I guess more people still don't understand what "passport" was all about...
Checking my Halo 2 stats, duh! - seanabernethie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2not good
LONG LIVE LIVE ID - WDot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What I don't like is how Passport isn't really a one-account-fits-all service. I need Passport to SIGN UP for MSN, I need Passport to SIGN UP for XBox Live, etc. Why can't I just use my Passport account as my MSN or XBox Live account?
At least with Google my GMail alone gets me into several services. - PSyMastR, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Its about time.
- hchaudh1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This is about the comment above:
"LONG LIVE OPEN SOUCE!
DOWN WITH THE EVIL MICROSOFT EMPIRE!"
- Anonymous
I have actually seen that on a couple other sites too. Either its the same guy or its the new OpenS battle cry, which would suck. Its funny, but it sucks. - barrys, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1 Server Error
500 error
- geodanny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It'll be back. Give it three years.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1it has a bit of truth they do have a thing called "digital identites" they uses it with microsoft max .
- orsoihaveheard, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Passport authentication is an *option* for .NET solutuons, you can also leverage a variety of other security providers. In practice, Passport is rarely if ever used (for a wide variety of reasons). More importantly, in contrast to your FUD, Passport is an option for .NET apps, not forced, required or any other misinformed b.s. you're trying to spew.
You've also misrepresented what DotGNU is really doing and it's a project of minimal if any consequence. If you want oss or platform-independent .NET, go Mono. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I wasn't reffering to your comment, I was reffering to the "Anonymous" one.
- ScottBod, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1People can use passport all they want, but I see it as a security risk. I don't see why I need to have a passport just to use the MSN network and even when I try to register, I don't even recieve a confirmation email.
- msaleem, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1This website has been 'Digged'!
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