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- kewldude606, on 10/12/2007, -7/+120Maybe it's because they are all using Firefox and it defaults to Google :-).
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+44Um, you guys realize that Redmond is a city, right? It's not just Microsoft. Just because you live in that zip code doesn't mean that you can't use Google because Microsoft's campus is there. This article doesn't give accurate percentages.
And yes, I've actually been to Remond (I live in Renton, WA and had two contracts at MS) many times and it is a lot larger than just Microsoft. - nibble128, on 10/12/2007, -9/+27LOL, more for the irony pile,
Microsoft using Linux servers, searching with google, on firefox, to protect against viruses and spyware, that Norton writes.... *if that was all true, God help us all* - haxx4, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17Search for Nintendo Wii:
MSN: http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=%22nintendo+wii%22
Google: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22nintendo+wii%22
Wow. Just wow. - zyang, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13this reminded me of a funny story, when i was working for microsoft as an coop student last summer, the office secretary caught me using google, but then i found out she was using yahoo!! what really cracked me up was that the only reason she used yahoo was because she didn't know msn had a search engine :D of course she was just a vendor, not an employee, but they sure taught her how to hate google.
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12The ZIP CODE 98052 is Microsoft's CAMPUS! Not just Redmond. Redmond has many zip codes. Their campus nearly completely occupies 98052.
Don't you know how to use Google Maps?! Do a search for 'Microsoft' in it.
BTW, to zeldafan, I would recommend you move to Seattle, which is very close to Redmond, but is a much better city to live in (more expensive though). It rains in the winter, but the rest of the year it's the best weather in america. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11"I just A9.com'd it..." (The OC)
Worse product placement, evah. - WackyT, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16Population of Redmond, WA: 45,256 (2000 Census)
http://redmond.areaconnect.com/statistics.htm
Microsoft employees: about 64,000 employees in 85 countries
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft
Sorry to burst your bubble unfortunate, Redmond consists of more than Microsoft. - moondog, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14Did you guys know that 73.4% of statistics are made up on the spot?
- dubbleenerd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11I was talking to a Microsoft employee at the recent career fair at my university, and he asked me to "google" to look up some information I needed, online. I was amused. When I asked him about his choice to use Google rather than MSN Search, he was honest enough to say that people are obviously going to use the service that offers the best experience and the best results. :-)
- leonbev, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11I'd hope that Microsoft would FORCE it's developers to use MSN search. That would give them some needed motivation to improve their product.
- schmeebis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11I work for Yahoo, but search with Google because Apple compiled the Safari quicksearch to point to Google, with no ability to change it (without binary hacking). All the same, though, just because a certain company pays your salary doesn't mean that you have to drink the Kool-Aid and use only their products.
- kevogod, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Right, since Internet Explorer's default search is not MSN, and the default homepage is not MSN. Google is popular because it is synonymous with search. You never hear someone say, "Hey, I'm going to MSN that!"
- drinequality, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14191,000 results with good relevance? You did check them all before posting didn't you? :^)
- Dimah, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Don't forget, alot of them are using iPods too. And trying to hide the fact so they don't anger their superiours
http://digg.com/technology/Hide_You_iPod_Here_Comes_Bill_ - d3m3, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12There's a reason people use google, its just easier. Alot of people have google.com set as their homepage and most don't even know where Microsoft's search is, search.msn.com? Microsoft got passed by google and though now they might have a decent search engine, its far too late to regain a noticeable share of the market, in my opinion.
- breakfastpants, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8@kevogod
I think you have things a bit backwards; Google is synonymous with search because it is popular. Google is popular because it was (and still largely is) better than everything that existed. - wolfzero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8My boss uses MSN/IE7. I use Google/Firefox. I work at MS in Redmond. IE is still my default browser due to intranet stuff. I also assume whoever is tracking browser usage at work isn't keeping too close an eye on what Mozilla is doing. But I don't have any evidence to back that up, just a suspicion.
- dgritsko, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8no dude you're wrong... its 84%
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Perfect example of inaccurate Digg news that somehow makes it to the front page.
- bash, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8From the same Wikipedia article:
"The Redmond Microsoft campus today includes more than 8 million square feet (750,000 m) and 28,000 employees."
28,000/45,256 = 62% (rounded off).
Statistic given in the survey of people using MSN in Redmond: 1.27%.
Either way, a good chunk of Microsoft employees use Google. They make up a good majority of Redmond, and it would be hard to skew it in the opposite direction of what they use. - kevogod, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I highly doubt that. A Coke employee was fired for drinking a Pepsi. http://money.cnn.com/2003/06/13/news/funny/coke_pepsi/
- gahal, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Somewhere in the google headquarters...
Guy 1: "Hey, does MSN search still blow?"
Guy 2: "Let's see.. *clickity*. Donkey balls man."
Guy 1: "Cool"
*edit* doh, ment that as a reply to pufuwozu. - RoadDogTy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Actually, a lot of Microsoft employees use an internal website that queries all the major search engines (Google, Yahoo, Ask) and also makes a call to an intranet site that runs the current version of MSN Search that hasn't yet been deployed to production, and then allows the user to rank the results that were returned (to create human relevence information to rate who does what well). I'm not sure how the numbers in the linked article were measured, but it definetely wouldn't include those internal queries to MSN.
- wastern, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7for some reason i highly doubt this. i don't know anyone that doesn't work at google that uses MSN
- babbling, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Even if they're using Internet Explorer, it's not much of a surprise that they're using Google. Google is widely accepted as "the best search engine".
- GhostFreeman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5From what i've been told Ballmer banned all the ipods on the Redmond campus.
Before you know it, Google will be next. - BugMeNot2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"from an aggregate sampling of the web sites we are tracking."
Anybody know how they would track these sites? - p9s50W5k4GUD2c6, on 10/12/2007, -8/+13But what does it say when only ~ 1.27% ~ of Redmond uses a a flagship service (MSN) from the most prominent corporation in Redmond?
Splice statistical hairs all you want, but the no confidence vote is unmistakeably clear. - pancho, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6If you don't care about the topic, don't read it.
Stop the bitching. - rr525356, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I live in 98052 and I'm not a microsoft employee as far as I know.
But I know Microsoft employees who do use gmail/google. It's not really discouraged if it helps them be more productive and makes MS more money.
edit: also, a microsoft contractor run site as an example: http://www.orangebadges.com/ - moondog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@wastern
Yeah...i know lots of people that work at google too....(sarcasm) Although the double negative in your sentence had me re-reading it about 5 times to figure out its true meaning. - zeldafan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I know Nintendo is there too, as well as a few other major tech companies.
I'm hoping to move there after I graduate college in a few years. - LR2_, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4No one should be surprised by this. Just because someone works for MS, it doesn't mean that they use their products exclusively. There are people that work at certain fast food restaurants and prefers a competitors; not a big deal. Its the same thing as MS employees using ipods or something. Bill Gates probably uses google sometimes.
- isdereks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4There's no denying that a huge percentage of the internet traffic in Redmond can be attributed to MS.
- mickoes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Why is this under judgment?
- srg13, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Umm.. That was said about three times in previous comments.
Read the other comments before you post, retard. - Xiol, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Then they'll never get their work done cos they won't be able to find anything on the net!
From personal experience I've never got good results with MSN search compared to Google. Their site is slow and "unclean"... (search.msn.com)
I tend to be brand-independent - if something works better than what I'm currently using I'll use that instead - but nothing has yet shown me it's more capable than Google. - mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Google does not build operating systems genius.
Google and MS both build search engines. MS employees choose google's over their own. - Jfave, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I took a statistics class... the teacher always said data can be manipulated to show whatever you want....
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Why doesn't anyone understand that REDMOND HAS MORE THAN ONE ZIP CODE!! 98052 is not all of Redmond. Microsoft's campus almost completely occupies that zipcode.
- schmeebis, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I can, and often do, but for quick one-off searches (the kind I make all the time), it makes sense to use the quick search area of Safari.
More and more, I've been trying to stomach the OS X port of Firefox, so I am probably at about 50/50 for Google/Yahoo searches. - drlog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Cant be so sure. What IF people that work at MS don't need to search? :D
Sorry - celticeric, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Why does Microsoft even need a search engine? The effort they are going to put into this is going to be the fiasco of Internet Explorer all over again. If they would just focus on making an OS instead of picking wars with companies that in fact don't directly compete with them then there wouldn't be half the bad feeling out there that there is now!
- nwagers, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3no genius, twistx has it right on. The search data is collected to some rack farm. It's very liking that one exists inside the microsoft campus. Which brings into question these entire statistics. Also, if these stats only measure the traffic that was directed from a particular search engine then the nature of the sites must be known in order to put this in perspective. For example, if the traffic was measured from pornographic sites it is highly unlikely that MS employees would be searching for it from their in house engine, let alone doing so at work.
- schmeebis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yeah, Yahoo internally has a large Mac community. Many of our engineers are Mac people because our development environment is traditionally BSD. So, you tend to see people with BSD desktops and PowerBooks because, well... it's geeky and software engineering-friendly. :D
As for AcidSearch, I found it to crash Safari too often to rely on. AcidSearch is also simply a binary hack. That, to me, is too unstable of an approach for my use of a browser. Hopefully Apple will support more varied searching natively in a future release. - theimacguy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"I work for Yahoo, but search with Google because Apple compiled the Safari quicksearch to point to Google, with no ability to change it (without binary hacking)."
Not true. You could use AcidSearch. I use it and have it set for Google, Wikipedia, Yahoo!, Flickr, digg, and Amazon. http://www.pozytron.com/acidsearch - isdereks, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Oh cry me a river. Stop reading then.
- wahooka, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2this is 100% accurate. msn search is only about 1 year old and built entirely from scratch. msft used to use different sources for their searches like yahoo.
msn search is not there yet but msft is working very hard on it and it is getting better. sometimes now when i cant find it with google i do try msn and a couple of times i have found what i needed
heres the wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Msn_search - JediMaster14, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The way I see it is if it's better, then use it. I certainly wouldn't want to be using something far more inferior to something that's just as easy and accessible as Google. I don't think anything will ever be able to take over at this point because Google has simply become a household name. People would rather "Google" something than "MSN Search" something; doesn't quite roll off the tongue.
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