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- chris9902, on 10/12/2007, -7/+120yeah because Digg invented voting!
now if only we could use in the real world, like voting to see who runs the country or something crazy like that. - masamunecyrus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+65@chris9902:
We already vote. Now if we could bury candidates as inaccurate... - frant1c, on 10/12/2007, -3/+57Microsoft totally ripped off that voting concept from Yahoo.
- canewediggit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+45this is digg's own fault. i can't tell you how many times i've made comments that they need to get some different language sites going (not that i should be telling digg staff what to do, but i just can't believe they haven't done it). if they don't, it's someone else's money for the taking.
- MrBabyMan, on 10/12/2007, -6/+29If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
- ABadInAlbany, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20on what basis do you make that assumption? Digg isn't ubiquitous. Its market penetration is far less than the average Digg user perceives, even in English-speaking countries. A majority of the users are under 25, a large percentage don't work in the real world, if they have jobs at all. Just because your high school buddies, or your college buddies, and you all know what "Digg" is, does not mean this transfers to the "real" world, where people in IT departments spend tens of thousands of dollars on technology on a monthly, weekly or even daily basis. Putting the Microsoft brand on this sort of site, and launching it someplace where I guarantee a majority of the IT spenders have never heard of Digg, is a good move for Microsoft. Is it a bad thing for Digg? Probably not, Digg seems to consistently fail to draw users with real IT money to spend, instead serving a large number of Web 2.0 circle jerk participants, from high schoolers to non-mainstream bloggers. Should Digg be targeting a higher class demographic? Absolutely! Is it too far entrenched in the child's toyland that is most of Web 2.0? Very possibly ...
- WiZZLa, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20It's more like Kevin Rose will legally change his name to Steve Jobs, then he'll get sued, then it'll be posted on Digg as something like "BREAKING Apple sues Digg, please digg up to show awareness and change Apple's mind. Title says it all. AWESOME owned"
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Kevin Rose proved democracy?
Get a ***** clue.
Digg's a fun site but it didn't actually invent anything. - brendanc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11abadinalbany is absolutely right. Digg is NOT ubiquitous by any means. I ask people I know, in the tech field and otherwise, and most of them have NOT heard of digg. But on the otherhand, most of them HAVE heard of slashdot.
- charlief, on 10/12/2007, -7/+18Is everyone going to hop on Microsoft's site and start spamming it too like Yahoo. Is it me or is this topic getting old. There are lots of sites out there that are implimenting the digg-like structure in their sites and it's a great idea. The democracy system is a proven system..thanks to Kevin Rose. However how long are we going to hear about this "They stole it from Digg" fiasco? Give credit where it's due and be done with it.
- Shirokun, on 10/12/2007, -6/+16Let's digg some Linux & Mac news on that Site. lol
- Barleyman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11I thought digg invented the thumb.
- justinjacobs, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10zomg digg clones!
http://bensguide.gpo.gov/images/ben/ben_voting.jpg - Icefreez, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12OHHH NOOO DIGG OWNS ALL VOTING SYSTEMS!!! DON'T COPY IT!!!!!!!!!
- tont0r, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8one thing that i like about the MS version is that you can see how many times someone liked the story vs how many times someone didnt like the story.
but it doesnt look like people can 'digg' the comments. - Sparkster185, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Hmm... similar to how Digg modified /.'s model.
- sincewednesday, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I msnned down this.
But it seems like a flaw that the site doesn't require registration to vote... and you can msnn down articles as "Adulte" and "Uønsket sak". - muffins, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Digg didn't invent voting. This isn't a rip off of Digg. They created this on their own. What Yahoo did was an insanely lazy rip off of Digg.
- scuzzman, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10@neoform
Bury? - flag564, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5"Too many silly ms fanboys excusing ms's blatant plagiarism."
Let me help you out since you sound like a total idiot.
#1 Digg did not invent the idea of voting for stories. So heaven forbid anyone adopt the idea that Digg adopted for this site. Digg is the most successful site using this set up, they are not the first.
#2 The site serves people in French-speaking Belguim and people in Norway. I guess you must be one of these people that think that EVERYONE speaks American English and thus should use Digg which is in English (sort of) only. - triplehelix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3are you frickin kidding me? as much as i dislike microsoft, they have innovated more then most companies out there.
- inboxnews, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The can't even get an effective Trademark. Look at 'Pligg' for example, they give the digg code away for free, and their name is substantially similar, a clear TM violation. Still, digg does nothing about it. Digg's loss.
- fugazi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Which is a good thing in my mind since constructive comments against someones thinking get dugg down even though they may be right.
- VargVikernes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Ripoff or not. What the Digg team obviously doesn't realize is how to 'sell' this. There are gazillion improvements to be made to Digg. From top of my head: search is complete *****, no way to organize your diggs, mirrors, local Digg (i.e. Digg.jp, Digg.de,...), better comment system and better comment voting, prevention of duplicate stories,... I mean the list goes on.
There are like 20(?) people working on Digg? FFS what the hell do they do all day. This site could have been so large if they would think outside the box. Else it will stay the same geek oriented site forever.
Remember Weblogs Inc. (Engadget etc.)? I remember when those site were just some ***** blogs until they expanded and today they have like 100 blogs, some of which are top 100 visited sites. Or when Slashdot used to be THE site where you had people like John Carmack commenting. Until recently, Slashdot was the same as it was in 99 (design included) and nowadays only hardcore fans or uber geeks even visit that site.
Screw this, maybe I should make my own Digg clone. - Codename, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Yeah, yeah, I heard Yahoo was doing the samething. Well if you have something so successful like DIGG, people are going to copy it, it's just life.
- Weenis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Plus, I think it's a tremendous compliment to Digg. To have microsoft, the biggest tech company on the planet, stealing from you is pretty great.
- ch28kid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3you know google is going to do the same
everyone is the same boat, thats what the web 2.0 bubble is all about. - sherlockian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2those douche bags
- geronimo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Good to see them innovating again.
- Philluminati, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2
agreed.
You used to have to sign up to every site on the net if you wanted a rant. Now were all ranting at digg and all the web 2.0 companies are like:
"actually you don't need to log in to post a comment". - ABadInAlbany, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@dimension128: I'm a software engineer who's been in the field since the age of 19. I have some college education, but only an associate's. I've freelanced for various companies, contracted and consulted for major international corporations (IBM, Xerox, Global Crossing) as well as smaller businesses, where I've made a majority of the IT purchasing decisions, to the tune of 100k a year in POs.
in my current role, I write enterprise-level applications in .NET for a major vision insurance company, and evaluate, and contribute to, purchasing and migration decisions, on a variety of software categories, from .NET framework version to databases to IDEs to database differential programs to wikis and other knowledge-sharing software.
furthermore I'd have to ask, what am I rendering in black and white? I've made some generalizations, but I doubt you could really define any "stereotypes" there. statistics, sure, which are anecdotally observable through daily use of Digg. - dimension128, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@abadinalbany
While I agree with most of what you said, I cant help but wounder, what of those 2 categories would you place yourself into?
I have this slightly crazy theory that things are not as black and white as you render them to be, and 'stereotyping' can actually be dangerous. - darthmojado, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2any publicity........
- giggg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@Killerx
You're missing a few original O's don't you think? - ABadInAlbany, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@wbgo: your nationality can define a demographic, but that's besides the point. (demographic: A socioeconomic or similar factor that defines a certain group or area.) That aspect of my comment was in response to the fact that Digg is weak in non-English speaking countries -- not because of whether or not "Web 2.0 geeks [don't] exist in other cultures," to paraphrase, but because Digg fails to serve non-English speakers. In general, Digg is weak outside the Web 2.0 circle.
- zackkitzmiller, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2(Really Simple Syndication)
- Ngai, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1
http://reporter.fr.be.msn.com/
and
http://reporter.no.msn.com/ - peter337, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Turn your caps off dood.
- aura, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Did anyone else grin when they saw no.msn.com in the URL?
- SimonDonkers, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://reporter.msn.nl/
Dutch is not Belgium. - Macuyiko, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Or http://reporter.be.msn.com ... Flemish is not French.
- wbgo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@abadinalbany: foreigners aren't a demographic. The same group of Web 2.0 geeks exist in other cultures, too, you know. While your points are valid, I'd be interested to hear exactly how you divide the world up. Spotty geeks, IT pros and Johnny Foreigner?
Still, canewediggit is also indeed wide of the mark. Given that digg (and its clones) are user-driven, there's no reason to expect MSN Reporter to carry very similar content just in a different language. - HairyPoter, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Don't call it Microsoft. Call it MeTooCrosoft...
I heard next windows version will call ME2
me too.... me too....
The day Steve Jobs put his trousers down, during a keynote, and show the press how Apple will market and sell his crap, is the day Redmond's MeTooCrosoft HQ will wake up in 5 foot of sh*t...
I'm so original... meeee toooo
meee tooooo - danjal, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2you know i could bash microsoft, i could.. but i'd rather take a 'mature' aproach and say this... This is a pure sign that digg has gone beyond a simple website, that it is effecting those around it on the word wide web, people have seen how the system is working, and sure enough, they are changing.
- Ratteler, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This is great news. Maybe now all you M$ opinion gamers can go to your new home and leave the democratic process of Digg to work without your spin.
- giggg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Voting systems will get old in about a year. whoever owns digg needs to sell it NOW!! otherwise you'll be left out in the cold. Voting existed in BBS like 10 years ago. Plus a million registered names is nothing. Half of those are duplicates cos they are on every site (just a fact). And max diggs any story gets is like 3000-4000. With these numbers, i'm happy someone is taking user submission mainstream cos digg sure as hell ain't doing it.
- Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5You know what they say; Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
- KeyGargoil, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2if it creams all the nutters away from digg, excellent
- sdimitrovski, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Microsoft like Microsoft! All they did in the near future is invented a HUGE copying machine. First Google with Live, then Mac OS X and Apple, now Digg and what's the next thing? Maybe ... Beryl, Compiz or just everything that is good in the world ...
Aaa... I hate 'em!!! - ronin4all, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yahoo and Tango, Microsoft... when Google want to start? Oh.. Youtube... what the hell... :|
MSN Reporter = Mega Suckers Network Ripper -
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