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- dioscaido, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7If Apple were to overtake MS in market share, they'd have some serious anti-trust troubles. They don't even allow other manufacturers to run their OS (same goes for their iPod DRM).
- mvent2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Yes, other OS's have bundles in them. But you don't see their competitors get crippled because of that, do you? The reason Microsoft is being targetted is because they have a monopoly. They have too much influence over the market. In addition, their market is comprised of Joes that don't give a second thought to what they're using, they just want to use it. Being a monopoly, Microsoft used this to their advantage. They toppled the giant Netscape in the space of a few years by this tactic. Does this paint a picture for you?
- gestalt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8I am neither for nor against MS or Apple but the regulations are most certainly NOT for everyone. Apple bundles everything you need for a complete computing experience out of box and nobody is mentioning that they are also out of compliance with these same regulations. I don't see a OS Xn edition for the EU on the roadmap.
I see it as a grossly stupid move on the part of both the US and the EU to force MS to release a less functional product in the name of harboring competition for web browsers and music players, especially considering that nearly all of those products are available for free anyway. - cday, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9But regulations are for everyone. They aren't just "against Microsoft", it's just that Microsoft doesn't wish to have to abide by the same rules as the rest of the world. The regulations were there first. Microsoft can choose to abide by them, or not. If not, then there are consequences.
- babbling, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Apple get away with it because they are not leveraging a monopoly on operating systems to push Quicktime. Apple are leveraging their monopoly on music playing devices to push music from their iTunes Music Store, though, and they're starting to get into trouble for doing that.
- SuperSloth, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4That's what I was thinking. How can it be on schedule after over 12 months of delays? Were they *scheduled* delays?
Does that mean Duke Nukem Forever is on time, too? - JohnnyG77, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@mvent2
These "Joe's" you speak of making the wrong decision in software...do you suggest that that only you can decide the "right" software? Are all these millions of "joe's" idiots because they want to buy a familiar product, with support, compatibility, familiarity, and ease of deployment (or whatever “illogical” reason these nuts are thinking ;)?
PS - Netscape died because it failed to innovate at a high enough pace to succeed in the "bubble wars". Also, its wares become a commodity product with time. Microsoft provided a valid option bundled with the OS, and ensures that anyone coming across a windows computer, would be able to use a familiar browser to access information. Along with a myriad of 3rd party products. - Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4"You don't /have/ to use their bundled software if you don't want to."
It's not just about making bundles optional -- this time, it's in part about some competitors that wanted MS to extend some security API's for them to be better able to integrate their products with their OS like MS have done with some security software in Vista using private API's. MS will now do this, design some extra public API', and that will apparently not delay Vista. - i440, on 10/12/2007, -10/+12I think the “regulations” against Microsoft are pointless. You don't /have/ to use their bundled software if you don't want to. If you don't want to use IE, Firefox or Opera will be at their respective websites, eagerly awaiting your download/installation. If you don't want to use Windows Media Player, you may just as well download iTunes or whichever program you want to use.
- glitchbit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I rarely side with MS but....actually I never side with MS but anyways here is the deal.
Private sercurity API's are a GOOD idea in theory, because guess who came up with some of the most disbilitating viruses for XP, the AV companies and here is why. The AV companies would release statements about sercurity gaps in the OS at their disgression normally if MS didn't jump on it quickly enough but still that is a very dangerous relationship for MS that the AVs created!
Second public API(even if it is only public to the AVs) means that potentailly it can get leaked more easily and that the AVs will be pointing the script kiddies in the right(wrong) direction as they find problems.
MS pushing the sercurity companies out of business is completely in the intrest of the consumer because it will only matter if their NEW sercurity works! And that is what scares these companies the most, that they may no longer be needed. It is like telling a mac user they need to go out and buy norton. - Gullop, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3Apple are a lot worse than Microsoft when it comes to this bundling crap.
If i want to install iTunes, i HAVE to install Quicktime, it doesn't even give me the option when installing. Don't want quicktime? Uninstall it then, oh wait, iTunes will no longer work without quicktime :/.
EU really have it against Microsoft, it is a lot of wasted money forcing them to create a new OS that doesn't include windows media player. - shaolinpunks, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5on schedule??
shouldn't it have been out months ago then?
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