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- quadvods, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18Hotmail launched before Gmail... this doesn't stop people from switching to the better service over time.
- h2d2, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18So how do you know Google came about with the idea of online file storage?
May be you should take a look at the file transfer protocol. - h2d2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17You won't need to signup if you have a passport account. And almost everyone who was online in '97 got one thru hotmail.
- mingistech, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12MS has "Live Drive" and it's free.
Google has "gDrive" and it's free.
Apple has .Mac storage and it's 99 bucks a year.
I'm the biggest Mac fan I know and I totally love Apple's products.... but c'mon!
Apple really needs to open up .Mac like it used to be... or atleast have a free version with less bells and whistles. - ZachPruckowski, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11but can you get it from Mac and Linux? I mean, that's going to be a factor. If I can only use the thing with a Windows PC, it's not going to be as popular as if it was cross-platform. That said, that assumes they intend to profit off it as opposed to using it as an OS feature.
And Apple could respond by making .Mac cheaper or free. - nullview, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Excellent! I was waiting for a reliable, safe place to keep my personal digital effects from possible snooping, data loss, etc.
hmmmm, better rethink that... - tapo, on 10/12/2007, -9/+17*Any* device?
Har har har. This is Microsoft we're talking about! - ice1000, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Live Drive or GDrive. Soon the RIAA will be serving them both with subpoenas to see who has MP3's stored there.
- Aztlan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I don't like to wait.
For gmail ftp
PC GMail Drive: http://www.viksoe.dk/code/gmail.htm
Mac gDisk: http://www.tuaw.com/2005/10/13/transfer-files-to-gmail-ftp-style-with-gdisk/ - trogdoor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I had a free .mac subscription and thought it would stay free so I made it my main account and then Apple told me I would have to pay 99$ a year to keep it. Not even Microsoft would do that.
- saggygrandma, on 10/12/2007, -6/+12Hotmail was bought out by Microsoft, they simply acquired it....
- Venkman, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10If you're going to rate my comment down, have the decency to say why, but I guess it was the kiddies who are fanboys of platform x
The ability to save your XBox 360 files to Live Drive would be a nice feature, and I really hope MS adds it in. - TimmyGUNZ, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7100% agree. The only reason I kept my .Mac subscription going was because of the Calendar synching and iDisk. I work in a small music company that uses Macs and for the CEO who is not very computer literate, it was the best option for keeping all our schedules in synch. Now with Google Calendar and it's iCal integration, there's no reason for me to use .Mac anymore.
The iDisk is great for storing/sharing large files, but knowing that there are free options on the way is making the future of my .Mac subscription look very bleak. - Rigbymatt, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11id still use Gdrive over Live Drive, dont want to have to sign up for anything new, my Google Account will do for Gdrive im sure
- dextroz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Right! And from MSs' drive, straight into NSA and DoJ and US Govt's ass without anything such as a flag to the users.
- TimmyGUNZ, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7What are you talking about? I'd say that I can easily name about 40+ people who have Gmail addresses with about 30 of them being people I wouldn't classify as non-tech savvy.
- beatmix01, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8actually the windows xp tcp/ip stack can be related to that of the MAC as the Xp stack is borrowed heavily from that of BSD.. and since OS X is based on BSD the stacks are very similar.
- TimmyGUNZ, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Then don't put incriminating ***** on a gDrive or Live Drive. What's so hard about that?
I hardly think that Microsoft or the Government wants to snoop at pictures of your Aunt Sally's 60th birthday. - Protoss, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5You think Live Drive is going to support an unsupported operating system? Microsoft is dropping 98 and below this July.
- sublunary, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6The "a high-definition videoconference you had with your grandmother" line cracked me up.
- einfeldt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This story should be reported down as being inaccurate. There is no there there in the referenced article or in the Digg story. What does it mean to say that "Microsoft Live Drive _may_ launch before Gdrive? That is mere fluff. Microsoft often makes announcements like this. They announce a product, in the hope that everyone will just wait until they come out with their product, and delay the adoption of competing products. For example, Vista was originally supposed to be out in 2005, or was it 2004.
Most importantly, the blog article to which tonybriz' Digg article is authored by Michael Arrington. With all due respect for Michael, he has done an awful job of summarizing the original article by Fortune Senior Editor David Kirkpatrick. Go here to read David's article.
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2006/05/01/8375454/index.htm
I am not a fan of Microsoft, and yet I admit that David's article does a fantastic job of encapsulating the challenges facing market-leading Microsoft right now. It is foolish to simple say "Microsoft is evil" because althought that statement is true, it doesn't really help people understand Microsoft's central role in our economy. David Kirkpatrick's article does much more to help people understand how Microsoft and Google are competing, and how their competition will affect how our lives for the next 10 years. Both tonybriz' Digg article and Michael Arrington's referenced blog article completely miss the main point of David Kirkpatrick's article: "Brutal competition. A stock going nowhere. Microsoft is in crisis, so Bill Gates has unleashed his new hire, software genius Ray Ozzie, to remake the company - and conquer the Web."
For the first time in its history, Microsoft is experiencing slowed growth. Its revenues continue to grow year over year, but at an ever slowing rate. At the same time, Google's revenue continues to grow year over year. Never 1990 has Microsoft's growth rate been exceeded by a significant competitor. Until now.
So my problem tonybriz' article and Michael Arrington's article is that they both take a tiny little slice out of David Kirkpatrick's article. Do yourself a favor, give yourself 35 minutes to read David Kirkpatrick's entire article. - gamerscalling, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5It may "piss off" more. There are other people out there that have both. I know I would love to be able to use it to transfer between my Mac and PC, sometimes I don't want to have to use a physical drive to keep files with me. It may not be many more, but it is still good service to include all audiences, it shows you care a little more.
- tsupersonic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The concept is cool, and I don't care who comes out with it first. The most important thing is, which service is better and more secure?
- macewan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4yeah, trust Microsoft with your data -- that's a reeallly good idea.
- zodiacal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Microsoft allready does this with their MSN Group accounts (they are free) they give you 3 MB's of space, and it acts as a drive letter on your system... if you are a msn customer, u get like 300MB's i think... has never failed in 4 years of use. good for school documents...
- twisterX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I think this is more of a copy of .mac than it is of Google. Windows Live seems to be doing everything that .mac has but I think they will offer it for free.
- MartinB3, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Yeah don't worry, Google won't look at your data, read their privacy policy... oh wait they only update it when the circus of complaints gets loud enough to scare them into thinking it could matter...
Google, you won't ever have my data, because you won't give me a fair statement of what you'll do with it. - AngryPenguin47, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Ya, like I am going to let microsoft be in control of my tax information or any other piece of valuable data they mention in the article. LOL. I wouldn't entrust my one and only ebook copy of Dr. Suess' Cat in the Hat to their servers....if I had one.
- TimmyGUNZ, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"Encription is your friend."
So is spell check! ;) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -13/+14Wow. Typical pathetic post from the anti-MS crowd
Guess what! ONCE AGAIN, Google is not the best or first. Get used to it. It is happening with increased frequency lately. - TimmyGUNZ, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Yes, it is unbelievable. There will always be some type of local storage. Not every computer will be connected to the net at all times. I just think it'll be all flash-based.
- h2d2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Only if they'd let me stream videos and give me a nice web API to manage my content...
- cphuntington97, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4This suspiciously follows Seagate's 750G drive announcement...
- aamer, on 10/12/2007, -7/+8That's true, I would agree that increased storage was driven by competitive storage from Google. However, the point I'm making is it's naive to simply say Microsot has no innovation -- that just sounds like typical anti-Microsoft speak.
There definitely some original ideas in Microsoft products such as their maps which include bird's eye views and the ability to "virtually drive" on a street. And as I said, live has original ideas too. It's typical for people to ignore original work being done at Microsoft.
There are other subtle ideas in the OS that are pioneered by Microsoft. Things like natural langauge recognition and inking support are not being researched in a signficiant way by any other OS company. - CreativeGuy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Storing 100% of my valuable information anywhere but my own hard drive that is only accessible by dropping my @ss in the chair in front of my computer just isn't going to happen for me!
I would trust anyone with my bookmark files (who really gives a crap if someone else knows what I like to read, right?). I **might** even consider storing photos on a Gdrive. But I'll be damned if I would store anything of any real value with someone else. - GhostFreeman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I think Box.net was the first to build around this...and before then, anyone remember I-drive during the Dot-Com boom?
- scrambled, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3And Microsofts annoying obsession with the word "Live" continues...
- aamer, on 10/12/2007, -7/+8I don't hide in the closet about anything. I like a lot of Microsoft products and I like a lot of non-Microsoft products. I like innovation whereever it exists.
- trogdoor, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Encription is your friend.
- wusch, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2yes you're right. I don't have to do that - now. but think about that this is just the start. Later nobody will have a normal harddrive - there are only Live Drive and GDrive (and a lot of pendants). Really unbelieveable?
- Venkman, on 10/12/2007, -12/+12I'm hoping for XBox 360 support.
- wusch, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2it's ok to have some files online but this kinda sucks I think. If I need some files on another computer I'm loading it onto my own server because my files are kept private. This sounds just like a big security hole to me: I don't know where my data is stored, I don't know who is able to access my data and so on.
I'm sure that I can find a line in their (microsoft's and google's) policy that "every data you store online is kept private and no others are looking into it". Hm I actually don't believe that. - aamer, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4I agree with h2d2.
Moreover, you should look at the network computer introduced by Oracle's Larry Ellison back in the 90's ... the whole idea of this computer was to be a dumb terminal with server-side storage! - diggrags, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0There is an inherent difference between Microsoft and Google. Microsoft tries to do things reactively, tries to not to loose to google. Google, on other hands simply tries to have fun and create something unique, bring a new twist. That said, google has not succeeded in all fields. I think specialists like IBackup (http://www.ibackup.com) will still rule the online storage world for a while.
- BeerTooth, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1That must be what they want this 1.5-million-square-foot building complex for.
http://www.columbiabasinherald.com/articles/2006/03/14/news/news02.txt - uownedge, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Too late, Google already has that. It's called GMail. ;)
- deathguppie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Most of the things people see from my web site are things that I post on the web in forums or around, using links to my site just to dole out content that doesn't nessesarily need to be on my site.
The biggest problem with putfile, or the like is that it involves going to another site to get content.
I think this is big with a big G... - krazedkaoz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Launched or not I already have Gmail Drive.
- MartinB3, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Modding down parent spyro187... what's with people making controversal and anecdotal claims without any evidence and thinking people will take them seriously?
- youngerpants, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Reminds me of the old 0 day warez sites.
And they pull the plug in 3... 2... -
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