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- Chewie67, on 11/08/2007, -2/+35Are you kidding me?
"the Beta 1 will be released when WLMessenger 9 ships in late 08 or early 09"
Late 2008 or 2009??? You could write a brand new Messenger client -- soup to nuts -- by March 2008 if you want to.
Way to innovate, Microsoft.
Can't wait for Calc.exe 2010 -- now with transparency! - slamtv7, on 11/02/2007, -4/+25Finally a new client for mac! I have a Windows desktop and a MacBook, it's about damn time they updated the look jeez.
- brewno2k, on 11/02/2007, -2/+19I hope this time MSN for Mac comes with webcam and audio support. And offline messaging too.
- subxero37, on 11/02/2007, -1/+12Windows Live Messenger + A-Patch. Get rid of all the crap and rearrange and modify all kinds of stuff to your likings. Using Windows Live Messenger is a must for me, since I use both audio and video conversations on a day-to-day basis, so anything to make it more usable and less obtrusive and annoying is always a huge plus.
Oh, and what the hell? Every time I receive an MP3 from someone, Windows picks it up as "harmful" and just plain *deletes* it without warning. It doesn't even ask. They have to change the extension and send it again, and I have to change the extension back. Lame. They need to fix it. - TheFinaleofSeem, on 11/02/2007, -1/+12It's about ***** time they gave it feature parity. MSN for Mac has been a real joke. I've had to use aMSN if I wanted video chat, and aMSN has its own issues.
- evilregis, on 11/02/2007, -4/+14Or you could use Pidgin or Trillian or any other IM applications that allow you to connect to multiple IM networks.
http://pidgin.im/
http://www.ceruleanstudios.com/ - KibibyteBrain, on 11/02/2007, -2/+12Yeah, its a shame that the Pidgin guys can't polish libpurple near as well at Adium does. Definitely a perk for OSX users!
- dpollitt, on 11/02/2007, -1/+10Adium's great if you dont like video... "It's coming"
- FredFredrickson, on 11/02/2007, -3/+11So it's not Live Messenger any more? Hehe, oh well.
I just wish they'd integrate it to work with AIM, so I would only have to have one IM program open at a time. I mean, I've seen homebrew apps that use Oscar (or whatever AOL's IM protocol is called)... why can't Messenger do it? - Ramble, on 11/02/2007, -1/+8On Windows?
- terminalpariah, on 11/02/2007, -0/+7They're hoping the whole "Mac" thing will have blown over by then.
- yagran, on 11/02/2007, -0/+7aMSN has done that for quite some time. http://www.amsn-project.net/
- stalefries, on 11/02/2007, -0/+6potp: it's not the bandwidth, it's the fact that they put advertisements in an IM client.
- karenflower, on 11/01/2007, -0/+6aMSN can do webcam, limited audio and offline messaging.
- ScottyDontKnow, on 11/02/2007, -2/+8I like Adium, but it doesn't do webcam for msn contacts :( i wish it did. Whoever does that first on the mac has got my Download.!
- mlostracco, on 11/02/2007, -6/+12Fair warning: Microsoft calling whatever's coming for the Mac "something awesome" usually means it's not that awesome. They think everything they do is something awesome. Considering that they've very intentionally kept video out of MSN Messenger and very intentionally kept Windows Media DRM out of OS X, I wouldn't get your hopes up.
- whoreman, on 11/01/2007, -2/+7Just for your interest the SVN version of Adium can do offline messaging
- cplusplus, on 11/02/2007, -1/+6Its not the client ... they need to switch to an open standard like XMPP.
- vypergts, on 11/02/2007, -3/+8Dude, go outside.
- inactive, on 11/02/2007, -3/+8Yes because that's one thing Microsoft lacks is money to survive.
- charlesray, on 11/02/2007, -0/+5I'd highly recommend against using Miranda. spyrochaete called it "full-featured;" it has no features unless you want to spend a good chunk of time working with plugins. Pidgin is far and away the best client for Windows in my opinion, but really anything other than the official AIM client is fine (and even that isn't so bad now, there are add-ons that get rid of the ads and unnecessary buttons, and it has buddy aliases).
- MySchizoBuddy, on 11/02/2007, -0/+4Adium 2.0 is coming up with audio and video support.
screenshots on their blog
http://www.adiumx.com/blog/2007/10/happy-leopard-d ... - Teej, on 11/01/2007, -1/+5However, the current OS X MSN client has no ads in it, whereas the Windows one does. In that sense, they're treating their OS X users better than their Windows ones. WTF?
- swazo, on 11/02/2007, -2/+6go pants!
- vanscott, on 11/02/2007, -0/+4dugg for saying, "soup to nuts"
- decker12, on 11/01/2007, -0/+3Hehe when I read this article, I thought there would be a download link, meaning it was basically Beta or maybe even Gamma. But when it turns out they want to wait another year or more for this? What a joke and no thanks, I'll wait for the inevitable open source client that provides all the same features but will be out in a month or so.
- PhillyMJS, on 11/01/2007, -0/+3Microsoft really needs to get its priorities in order w/r/t the Mac. Why the hell are they working on a whiz-bang new MSN Messenger for OS X, when Entourage still has shameful Exchange support (and based on how Microsoft has been touting the "Oooh, SHINY!" aspects of Mac Office 2008 instead of meaningful features, things don't seem likely to improve).
- Atomic1fire, on 11/02/2007, -0/+3or just allout converting windows live messenger service to jabber
imagine how much populalirty microsoft would get for doing it because that would mean livejournal>Gtalk>microsoft and back again and every other jabber provider
heck it would mean transports which means aol support anyway - pyrates, on 11/02/2007, -1/+4Yes you did, you paid for it when you bought windows. MSN Messenger is a free extra, so they gotta make money on it. I don't have a problem with it. I never click on the ads, but they're not intrusive.
- tapo, on 11/01/2007, -1/+4That's what I find interesting about them having GTalk integration, as GTalk is XMPP. Hopefully, Microsoft is adding a public XMPP gateway to Windows Live; making all of our lives a little bit easier.
- bjtitus, on 11/02/2007, -0/+3"ships in late 08 or early 09" by the time this is out, anything they build will probably be old news. Why can't they release it early 08 or even mid 08?
- stray, on 11/01/2007, -1/+4Hell, I just wish they'd settle on a name. I think they've changed the name of their IM software with every release. Meanwhile, AIM is still AIM, ten years later.
- nape, on 11/01/2007, -0/+2no self respecting mac user is gonna use this...
- DaleoftheUK, on 11/02/2007, -2/+4I like Adium, but still check this out.
- FredFredrickson, on 11/02/2007, -5/+7I go outside plenty... I just would like that, that's all.
Seems kind of a hypocritical statement to me anyway, from someone who's wasting his time looking at comments 3 deep on Digg. - stalefries, on 11/01/2007, -0/+2Beware of current SVN, though. Some people (like myself) are getting compiling issues. Something to do with Webkit.
- poturta, on 11/02/2007, -0/+2There is ways to remove the ads
http://apatch.org/ - Wandel, on 11/01/2007, -0/+2Or just don't open it from the chat window.
- stalefries, on 11/01/2007, -0/+2They've done a lot of work recently; check out the Adium dev blog: http://adiumx.com/blog/
- dawesdust12, on 11/01/2007, -0/+1aMSN actually I think is better in some respects than the official MSN client, particularly the recording of webcam conversations.
- BalooUrsidae, on 11/02/2007, -0/+1No self-resepcting Internet user is going to use that. Or AIM, or Yahoo, or ICQ. Jabber: The open IM network, the only IM standard.
- WiseWeasel, on 11/01/2007, -0/+1And with a nice interface and no ads, to boot... The API developments are interesting, but I've long since given up hope for their client...
- WiseWeasel, on 11/02/2007, -1/+2The more interesting tidbit for me was:
"MS will no longer update the MSN Messenger for Mac, but they are going to release a brand new client for Mac OS X that is according to him"
I bet Apple will be adding support for MSN to iChat if MS is discontinuing Mac development after this release... - WiseWeasel, on 11/01/2007, -0/+1No, that's the light side...
- BalooUrsidae, on 11/02/2007, -0/+1It's not even integrated, it's gatewayed. Nobody needs the MSN protocol now that XMPP exists...
- inactive, on 11/01/2007, -0/+1Who will ever look back to Pidgin after the switch?
- beerbarron, on 11/02/2007, -1/+2This is good but to late, adium 2.0 will support webcam and mic, check their blog!
- taxali, on 11/02/2007, -1/+2Did you pay for Windows Media player?
- luchid, on 11/01/2007, -0/+1Duh... cause they're Microsoft...
- BalooUrsidae, on 11/02/2007, -0/+1Or instead of using an obsolete workaround to a problem that no longer exists, you can use one of the many Jabber clients there are out there, quit using proprietary protocols on several different networks, and just use the open standard ratified three years ago...
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