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- aplardi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21Better yet
HP 16x 4.7GB DVD-R Media 50-Piece Spindle
4.7 x 50 = 235 GB
235 GB of Data for 12 Dollars
Or 15 GB of Data for 20.
Hmmm
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=DM00044XM&cat=MED&cpc=MEDbsc - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22What did you people expect? It's a brand new technology. Of course it's going to be more expensive than DVDs.
Give it time. Eventually the price will drop. - Wiggles2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22Ouch. I just saw a 200gb hard drive online for $49.99 with no rebate. I think I'll wait a bit on the blue laser discs.
- radicaldementia, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Definitly not worth it. For $20 you can get a 100 pack of DVD-Rs, thats 470GB. Not to mention a HD-DVD burner is gonna cost you an arm and a leg.
- willcode4beer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13Just think of them as premium coasters
- hipchecker, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15They will cost a buck in a year or two
- ShakeWell, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11@toast
new tech is expensive because the infrastructure is not fully in place to mass produce these said products. as they become more popular and widely used, the average price of production drops rapidly. that is because to be able to manufacture these discs and the hardware to burn/read them, you need new machines for the assembly. but once that's in place, and the cost of setting all the infrastructure up, that's when the price drops come. - Alphateam, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10CD-r's were the same way. I remember them being >$5 each for 650MB
- drewolanoff, on 06/10/2008, -3/+10can you point us to that 200 gig for 50 bucks?
- cougar618, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Meh, Ill wait 5 more years when its better, faster AND cheaper.
- merreborn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Dual layer DVDs are still really expensive too. A quick froogle indicates they *still* sell for a minimum of over $2/ea, with some retailers selling 'em at $5/disc or higher. IIRC, they were up at the $20 level just a year or two ago.
$20 for brand new media is par for the course. It'll be down to $2-4 in a year or two, which is fine, 'cause it'll take at least that long for people to start buying the drives anyway.
Long story short: New technology is always expensive. If you don't like it, don't be an early adopter. - Alphateam, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8-R is more compatable and it holds a tiny amount more than +R
I Never us a +R - Wiggles2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7@bestdamntech
http://digg.com/tech_deals/200GB_Maxtor_SATA_8MB_Retail_Internal_HDD_Kit_No_rebates_49_99
Sorry, but you missed it- it expired. And it wasn't external, but it was SATA.
I think the 400gb PATA for $109.99 is still available though. I bought 2 of 'em. 800gb for around $200- can't beat it. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6That fact that we are all sitting here talking about optical media is silly. Its 2006 I don't care how much data you can store on cd type media its just not very practical.
- mike_p, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@ScottMaximus: I'm not trying to be Captain Obvious but... I don't think he meant it literally. They'll probably be cheaper than $10 though.
- TheWriteGuy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7It may be just ignorance, or they are using older burners that do not support DVD+R.
I occasionally do digital video editing and the DVD+R format is absolutely necessary to create DVDs that will play on virtually any DVD player (including really old models). (You set the disc's booktype to DVD-ROM. This is something that cannot be done on a DVD-R, AFAIK.) - ahhell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Jesus, some people.
Until recently dual layer DVDs were $10+ each.
New media is always expensive when it's first released. - Guspaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Am I the only one who finds it amusing that BluRay discs cost less despite the fact that the HD-DVD people have been obsessively drilling into our skulls that HD-DVD is cheaper to manufacture since existing facilities can be adapted? Looks like slight differences in manufacturing costs don't make up for market prices.
I'm hoping bluray takes over on the desktop for the larger storage capacity. For movies, I could care less which wins. - Alphateam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@TheWriteGuy
+R more compantable on older players? Really?
From what I understand -R is and older technology and tends to play in older players better. I've seen several old DVD players that won't play +R, but will -R's. - cybertron3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I remember buying DVD-Rs and DVD-RAMs for $20 or $25 a piece
- airmann90, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Anyone remember when DVD-RW's first came out? Or even DVD-DL? They were nearly the same price for just one, but I'll say it now, the price is gonna drop at least 2-fold when the company realizes there's a larger market share of people who just want to pay less.
- seandfeeney, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6oooo let me run out and waste my money on tech that is just too new and expensive!... I'll wait...
- mike_p, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4HD DVD and BluRay continue to fight. We won't see prices go down until there is an established standard and the technology has been out for a while. I don't think this is any different than our past when CD and DVD writers were super expensive upon first entry... ultimately, it'll get dirt cheap and we'll look back on this another day when the next form of media comes out.
- Alphateam, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5You nailed it. "Idiots with a lot of money"
- merreborn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"I'm just curious as to how they're going to get people to buy this product at such a high price."
$20/disc is nothing to a large company. Especially one in the HD-DVD authoring business. Think: TV, indie film, marketing...
There's a huge market for High Def media. It's not the *home* market, but not everything's about you. - nomindo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+420$ That's nothing. I remember CD-RW's costing 30$ back around 1997-1998 (sometime during my senior year)
- riverside71, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Oh screw them.. Where the fck are the Dual Layer +-RW disks??
- mbourgon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Absolutely. I remember buying Ricoh CD-Rs at 24$ each. We were ecstatic when we could find them in bulk - a 10 pack for $200. We burned them on our $1500 CD-R drive, a Plasmon 1x writer. Absolutely amazing how far the tech has come. But for new media, $20 is perfectly reasonable. The price will drop - whomever thought DVDs would be under 50 cents each?
- fantasticjon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I am still waiting for dual-layer DVDs to come down in price.
- warnergt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yes, you should back up your data on 1 MB floppy disks.
That way, you lose much less when one is bad. - Rhuel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3One of the reported advantaged of HD-DVD over Blueray is that HD-DVD can be manufactured using existing DVD technology, which was supposed to keep prices low.
So, either that was completely false, or they are just soaking the early adopters as technology companies tend to do. - JMJimmy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Hrm $1.80 for 3 DVD+Rs or $20 to have it all on one disc... hrm.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3$20 for a soda? That is outlandish!
- m0dded, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3why is everyone freaking out? technology is always expensive when it first comes out because it is expensive to produce, and they need to maintain profit margins. did you expect it to cost just as much as a normal dvd right away? a few people always buy it at first, and then as the prices drop, more and more people are willing to spend the money on it. it's really not that hard to understand that this happens all the time.
- nandes, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3For those who don't know why prices start higher (usually rediculously high compared to a few years down the road), a main reason is that there is a segment of society that us advertising types call "early adopters".
They will pay any price for new technology.
The high priced, introcutory period is when R&D costs are recouped. - NSMike, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4What good is that? $20 for 15 GB, and I can't even label it - the frackin' disc is black!
- toastgodsupreme, on 10/12/2007, -7/+9But why does it have to be expensive? Because it's new? That's not a good enough reason. I guess when we start seeing the price drop to $7 a disc, we'll be like, "Holy *****! That's a great deal!! Get it! They were $20 before!!!"
- jsdeprey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Or it might be a corperation's IT team that uses them for backups that are the early adopters? To them 20$ for a 20GIG disk might be usefull in some situations depending on what its being used for.
Early adopters are not always just rich people that got to have everything.
Sometimes its just people where this product happens to fill thier need and if that need happens to be in a business on making money, then maybe 20$ does not sound so bad anymore.
20$ to store you porn collection might sound expensive.
20$ for a HD Movie of you companies factories or something might be cheap! - Wiggles2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I don't think Dual Layer DVDs will drop to anywhere near that of regular DVDs. They're just too niche/unpopular. Especially since the blue-laser discs are coming out now too.
- JMJimmy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Completely unrelated, but why do people use DVD-R over DVD+R? I could never figure that out.
- TrevorBradley, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Or Dual Layer DVD-R9 disks costing less than a dollar a pop?
One would think this would start dropping the prices of dual layer standard down.... - slapout, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Man, I'm old. I remember when blank VHS tapes were $15 a piece.
- carpespasm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2and look how popular dvd-ram discs are now
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Notice some people saying DVD+R is better, and others saying DVD-R is better. Either these guys don't know ***** about *****, or it just proves that neither one is actually better than the other.
What's the answer? - andrew1193, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"HP 16x 4.7GB DVD-R Media 50-Piece Spindle"
Get the DVD+R if your burner supports it. It's only $2 more for the HP 50-piece spindle. - psychoace, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Actually newegg right now has it for 15.99 I believe or tiger direct does one of the two.
So...
$15.99 for 25 gig at 2x burn speed
or
$20 for 15gig at 1x Burn speed
I thought HD-DVD's were cheaper to produce then Blu Ray? - MindTrigger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2
There are bound to be great increases in speed and quality over the next couple years. I've learned that early adoption can bite you in the ass more ways than one. You go buy this brand new tech at some nutty price, then a year later the new units are faster, more reliable and cheaper. I have a dual layer writer for now. I'll wait a while on HD stuff. - warnergt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Let's see.
A 25 GB BD-R is $19.99 ($23.99 at shop4tech.com).
A 15 GB HD DVD-R is $20.
This is exactly why BD will win.
It's the capacity.
Blu-Ray Media
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http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Blu_ray_Media/1_299
http://gearlog.com/blogs/gearlog/archive/2006/04/10/TDKBDR.aspx - MikeSD34, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1People will pay top dollar for convenience, that said, prices will come down for this as with all technology before it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I'll stick to Blu-Ray
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