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- aazn, on 10/10/2007, -3/+82Dear MediaDefender-Defender,
You are awesome.
Sincerely, Internet. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -8/+53RIP MediaDefender... May all the employees burn in hell.
- sockpuppets, on 10/10/2007, -1/+25Your, grammar, guy, needs a little, work.
- fusama, on 10/10/2007, -1/+21the phrase "inside job" comes to mine
- kefs, on 10/10/2007, -0/+18Transcript: http://pastebin.com/f5ae055cf
- Whackly, on 10/10/2007, -1/+16Comma abuse!
- imabot, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14When it rains, it pours
- fkr3, on 10/10/2007, -3/+17Doesn't anyone thing it's suspicious that so much of this private information is being released?
Leaked emails I could accept, but also phone calls and a database? Call me cynical but I don't think a tech company who's very job makes them an enemy of a lot of people online would be that vulnerable.
The phrase "misinformation" comes to mind. - kefs, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12harsh bits if you ask me
- frositay, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13Just not MediaDefenders week is it.
- bigteebo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12I love how MediaDefender's emails and phone calls are now being leaked onto torrents. It's poetic justice. Pretty soon people will be billing goods and services to their expense accounts, occupying their voice mail boxes, stealing their electricity, using their parking spots. The humiliation goes on and on. :)
- lotu, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11I don't think somebody decided to leak some info to distract them form what we're doing because if they did, they are failing. I hadn't heard of Media Defender until last week when the emails got leaked. Which by the way would be an enormous undertaking to fake, they have pictures of people vacations in there. Their time would be better used tracking down pirates rather then spending weeks leaving a false trail. Thirdly what do you think this is going to do for their stock, Media Defender is owned be Artist-Direct which is publicly traded on the NASDAQ, getting hacked twice in a weekend is not going to look good for their public image, or instill confidence in investors. Also, It looks like the database of hashes was real because various sites used them to find and remove 5000 some fake torrents, again way too much work for a fake trail.
Also as a small company they tend to have more lax security so it's possible that a low level employee like the janitor could gain access to their computers and compromise them that way. - useful, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9"MD - You know, and, we're pretty available by phone, so, if guys are comfortable with just communicating with us by phone and anything that's really really sensitive we could just communicate in this fashion. I know it's a little bit cumbersome..." - http://pastebin.com/f5ae055cf
haha, i believe thats irony - mahsah, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Torrent link to database:
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3808220/Gnutella.Tracking.Database.Leak.INDEPENDENT
"This is a MySQL database dump from a Mediadefenderserver, showing tracking and
decoy file information for the Gnutella network. Thanks to MDD and Seaking for
making this possible."
***** YEAH SEAKING - ktetch, on 10/10/2007, -6/+14Dotcha gotta love it. seriously, mediadefnder, guys, get your act together, please, or get out of the business, and leave it to the professionals. People like you are dangerous, because if nothing else, its apparant that your own house is so dirty, you can't comment on anyone else.
- an0nymous, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11Salary list for the dev team!
http://jrwr.hopto.org/xlsq7AbgRGD19.xls
Bet Norman is getting the silent treatment at the coffee machine - cultist667, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Its so funny once you read the email about them having an identity theft seminar ROFL.
- j0keR, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8The phrase incompetence comes to mind. Their job is to muck around with P2P, how many security experts can they possibly have on their payroll?
- aadnk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7No. This is a private company, run by incompetent idiots with no ability to design nor oblige to working security policies. They shouldn't have been doing the investigation in the first place. That's the job of the police.
- Nearoschyth, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Then again, most people that are actual tech experts are going to be the ones fighting organizations like this.
- Darth_tater, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7No, 'awesome' is not nearly enough to describe the great justice MediaDefender-Defender has done. Awesome would be the **AA "seeing the right side" and embracing the internet as a usable business model. This is just so amazing that words cant fully describe it.
- lloydruberus, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7For Great Justice!
- akatherder, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8Ok, some pirates are just kiddies looking for downloads, but there is a big crossover with people who need to know their ***** to release. Maybe you should get some skills before you ***** around with them.
- dinostabOMG, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6:,(
- MacSuxWindozSux, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6All their base are belong to us.
- oxymoron69, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6birthdate, address, ssn and yearly income.... omg... this kinda info would be a dream in the right hands
lol - acnx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5MediaDefender leaked phone call :http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3809004/MediaDefender.Phonecall-MDD
Trascript of phonecall : http://axtmag.com/2007/09/16/mediadefender-leaked-mail-part-2-phonecalls/ - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Here Here
*raises beer - hellotyler, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Not harsh enough.
- delta013, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5"how many security experts can they possibly have on their payroll?"
We'll know when the payroll database gets leaked. - an0nymous, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Uh oh ... tabish is upset about his review! http://jrwr.hopto.org/msg03125.html All is well though, they're going to bump him to 60k and give him a little talking to.
It seems like Ben is covering for letting this slip through the cracks but criticizing tabish.
hmmm... - jer2eydevil88, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5This is more than just a couple highly technical people who pirate, these guys claim to have 9 months of conversations from MD. I assume the MDD hackers got in through a failure on Media Defenders end (software updates or an inside job). In any case Congrats! Those hackers have certainly shaken up the entire industry today.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5OWNED
this is such great news for all of the Internet - darkened, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Desserts, just served.
- Qumahlin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5It's globally searching for the actual porn, but they are only prosecuting people in NY. This is a project being worked between MD and the NY ATG, anyone outisde NY state would require the NY ATG to contact that states attorney and proceed appropriately
- Derelict267, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Haha what's next? Whoever is the awesome person doing this drops an EMP on mediadefenders location? That would be awesome. But seriously, mediadefender needs to be banned from the internet, for life.
- fkr3, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6The phrase "way too much liability for it to be an inside job" comes to mind. I doubt the company is big enough for an employee to have so much access and get away with releasing this stuff, let alone someone being willing to risk all their assets if not actual prison.
Which leaves two options
- a company who knows their business model makes them a significant target is so insecure someone managed to access all this stuff
- someone high up said "let's leak some fake info and distract them from what we're really doing as part of our new strategy "
Both are possible but only one seems likely. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Not exactly... they send incriminating information/evidence to local law enforcement in other countries as well. Obviously NY jurisdiction only extends up to NY borders.
- Drull, on 10/10/2007, -5/+9This comment system sucks.
- Kasot, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6This is too funny :) In a sad way...
Also, the cp investigation is global... - Orion682, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3According to Ars Technica, the emails were obtained by hacking a gmail account that an employee forwarded his internal company emails to. Some of those emails had usernames, passwords, and host names to ftp server, sql servers, etc. This is where most of the info came from afaik. And no, I don't think it's suspicious, considering how woefully lax many companies in the US are to network security.
- lagrange, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Dick, dirt, dirt, dick.
- aukxsona, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3LOL pwned
- a22e, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Don't forget about the checking and routing numbers!
- idsjfoiewh3498, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3LOL
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I am the CEO of MediaDefender. We have begun our civil and criminal investigations into the stolen emails from our company. We are meeting with the FBI on monday. Your IP address has been logged. I hope it was worth the thrill.
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- ackerman76, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2"MD - ...if you guys need to know what password we're using we could just communicate that by phone.....
AT - Right."
" AT - Here's the problem, a potential problem, and again, from the law-enforcement-perspective: The intelligence information that you guys are gathering, that's being sent to our systems and then our evidence-collection-process here, it needs to be able to stand up in court, and in order for us, I think, to do that from a legal standpoint, we have to be able to get on a stand and say that the data that we get from you, is, pristine, it's validated, it's verified, there's no chance that, or there's a very limited chance that the data that came from you to us, was in any way compromised, edited, modified, or goofed with, so that the information that we get from you, that we rely upon, we can go out and connect to the IP-machine, the IPs and the machines in New York that have the contraband files that we're pulling down, are all wrapped together in one nice little bundle,
MD - That part has not been compromised in any way, I mean, the communication between our offices in Santa Monica and datacenters in Los Angeles and Alsagundo(?) have not been compromised in any way and all those communications to New York, to your offices, are secured. The only part, that was in any way compromised was the email-communications about these things...." - sgr215, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Damn dieing mouse likes to double click randomly.. sorry for the double post.
- an0nymous, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Oh crap, I didn't even see the ssn's. Ah well -it's not exactly a secret now.
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