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- techfish, on 10/10/2007, -0/+40Well what do you know, no private trackers are listed.
- sl9sl9, on 10/10/2007, -12/+37MD have been sending out lawyer C&D letters to any site mirroring the leaked e-mails, and have been "meeting with the FBI". Talk about locking the stable door after the horse has bolted!
By trying to do "damage control" on the internet with lawyers, they are merely increasing the quantity of mirrors and drama exponentially, providing endless entertainment for the rest of us.
The internet is serious business! (tm). - nizzy1115, on 10/10/2007, -2/+22question. they are uploading "fake" content and suing you for downloading the real thing. however, you never downloaded the real thing, you just got their "fake" movie/song etc. technically, while you attempted to steal, you never actually stole anything. it'd be like walking into a warehouse, stealing a box labeled "dvd's" but the box was actually empty. how can you be arrested for stealing dvd's if you never actually did?
- Ebacherville, on 10/10/2007, -0/+20So we just have to bit torrent on public wifi... the IP will track to starbucks.. what are they going to do then..Sue starbucks..
- oldhick, on 10/10/2007, -0/+18The better question is, how do they know I didn't want to download the fake *****? Maybe I wanted to see how they made fake ***** and what fake ***** smells like. They have no way of being sure I had "criminal intent" because unlike the "warehouse" analogy, a bit torrent and torrent sites aren't meant to be searched where as a warehouse is probably meant to be locked...
- AmishRefugee, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14this email was leaked well before the rest...
It was on here a few months ago - Protoss, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9I don't think I want to hang out at Starbucks for 2+ hours. I don't think they're going to have the best speeds.
- kris33, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10What would the point be? The torrents would be deleted really quick anyway.
- yowhat2002, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Ive had a C&D because of something i downloaded from isohunt(I forget what) but my ISP was really cool about it, they just forwarded me the letter and told me to delete the content(yeah, right) and theyd handle it. Demonoid is where i hang out most of the time now though. I see they didnt make the list.
- sheepster, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9http://www.digg.com/tech_news/MiiVi_Admit_They_Will_Report_Pirates_to_Proper_Authorities
did you just copy and paste your same comment? lame. - The_Wallbanger, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8I think it's good practice to always assume your bit-torrent presence is being monitored.
- nogwater, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8It's not even stealing. It's is (or would be) copyright infringement.
- nizzy1115, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7is intent punishable by the same penalties as the actual theft?
- Protoss, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7C&C=Command and Conquer? Sweet, you got a free game!
And Demonoid is hardly a 'private tracker' - MiDri, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Yes nizzy1115 it is like going into best buy and stealing a tv! Because when you download something off bt that copy of the software/movie/song/whatever can never be sold, because you have it! Right? Wait that analogy sucks, Downloading Software != Stealing.
- daeggman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Don't get too comfortable at Demonoid - I received a DMCA C&C thingie for something I downloaded there. Did the same (replied saying I had deleted the content) but I've been VERY wary of anything I've downloaded since then, especially on public trackers, but moreso now on private trackers.
- Azuroth, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Do you have a foolproof way to guarantee that the torrent you connected to is fake? If so, share please, I would also like to identify all the fake torrents....for.....research *shifty eyes*
- Protoss, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5I was surprised to see that...Aren't very 'hip' and 'with it' now are they?
- oldhick, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6I don't. So my point is, I'm intentionally downloading files to see if they are, not to commit theft. If it turns out to be some hot off the press movie, of course I would be appalled and delete it immediately. My only goal is the noble effort to better understand the fake *****.
- Kardall, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5What I like, is how there are indexing sites on the list... which incorporate other sites not on there as well. for example torrentreactor. And who in their right mind visits fulldls.com ... that's such a spyware infested place it's ungodly and should be removed from existence... The first and only time I went to that site to find something, I had over 6 notifications of trackers, trojan alerts, etc from my firewall and other software... stay away...
- ultrafez, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I heart Demonoid
- UtopiaInTheSky, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intention_%28criminal%29
- jcaino, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3intent.
- Floris, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3This, and more info - can be found through this article : http://digg.com/tech_news/MediaDefender_defenders_post_info_results_analysis_and_laugh_out_loud
A very handy complete site for the media who wants to jump this bandw. - knightboat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Demonoid isn't private.
- gage006, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Glad to see none of my private trackers on that list.
- riot, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3From: Pedro C.
To: Octavio H.
Subject: RE: Fox torrent sites
O,
Here is the Fox list site we protect on....from strong to low presence, in that order.
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Bitenova.org
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Torrentportal.com
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Torrentreactor.to
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Isohunt.com
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Torrentbox.com
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MyBittorrent.com
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Torrentspy.com
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Mininova.org
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ThePiratebay.or
The following are sites where we additionally post torrents.
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Meganova.org
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Worldnova.org
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Fenopy.com
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BTmon.com
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BTjunkie.org
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Snarf-it.org
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Bushtorrent.com
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Fulldls.com
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Extratorrent.com
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torrentlocomotive.com
~Pedro - ChuyMatt, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3last i saw (ok, it was many months ago) there were distinguishing markings to note the external trackers.
- MercedRocks, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2That site's in the middle of some DDoSing action right now.
- MercedRocks, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I was told to keep it on the "DL" so had to remove it.
- ckokotay, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2What I don't understand is that the laws are against 'distribution' of copyrighted material - not downloading it. Of course, well, if you use torrent you are distributing at the same time you are downloading - and maybe that's the rub, but a fake file? I dunno, sounds like shaky legal grounds since no real files changed hands. And - this is not criminal - it's civil. Don't know how 'intent' applies here.
- Flatlineskillz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2does anyone know if peer guardian protects against this kind of tracking?
- Jonsblckhwk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2The latest...
http://digg.com/tech_news/P2P_sites_ridicule_MediaDefender_takedown_notices_in_wake_of_e_mail_leak - Xanium4332, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2yep, it came from MediaDefender...
And if it's not fake, then what the hell are they doing letting me download a proper movie... - MiDri, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Which technically should be a civil matter, could you get an Intent to Copy infringe if it was a civil mater?
- crimpshrine, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2You are not making a proper comparison, that's what I hate about people and these stupid comparisons. Your comparison should actually read this way: It's like walking into best buy, taking a TV, then magically a new TV appears where the old one one. At no cost to Best Buy. As soon as you leave then bring it back in, you are caught for stealing. It could then be argued, has best buy really lost anything to theft if that is the way it works? I don't think so.
- Naga10, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Same thing happened to me, actually. It was a first time offence, so my ISP was cool about it, but you have to be careful what you download. Pirate Bay and MIninova seem to be the safest places to go for it at the moment.
- msafi, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1http://duggmirror.com
- ultrafez, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Sounds like your PC's pretty screwed to me, not Digg.
- halofyre, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Some interesting further details are on Mininova's blog.
- Niek, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1URL: http://digg.com/tech_news/Mininova_blog_About_the_MediaDefender_leaked_emails
- schavira, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Howso?
- m0j0j0j0, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1"NOTE: In light of the recent leak of some internal MediaDefender memos have been able to reprint this e-mail and story concerning it in its entirety."
Is that supposed to be English? - 3210, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0It's nice to be able to look into the anti-piracy world and see exactly how they operate and which torrent websites they operate on.
- oldhick, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0You guys and your comparisons... First a torrent search site isn't anything like a Best Buy. Many of the torrent search sites return torrents for content that is completely legal to download. For instance, movie trailers, VMware appliances, non-copyrighted movies and audio... Additionally, content is often misnamed. I may not realize that downloading a Transformers torrent was an illegal movie and not a legal trailer being distributed via torrent. I might be looking for the "fake" movie to see if its some crazy message telling me I'm going to jail for being a thief. At a Best Buy its impossible to be confused as to the legality of the content.
- FishHammer, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0well the tracker I use isn't on there, this makes me a happy panda
- nottanner, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0Do not think Demonoid is safe. It is essentially a public tracker with usernames.
It is huge, it is not scene, and it is easily penetrated. chances are if you live in America they will catch you getting a newly released torrent. - Xanium4332, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1please read above, your screwed...
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1Plus most places just block the ports
- nizzy1115, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1if you delete it immediatly, you still stole it. its like walking into best buy, stealing a tv, and as soon as you leave bring it back to the store. you can/will still get in trouble, because you DID steal it regardless if you gave it back or deleted it.
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