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- gabebear, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10A little more on topic is that American soda(and most food) uses high-fructose corn syrup instead of regular cane/beet sugar. http://www.mercola.com/2002/jan/5/fructose.htm
It's likely that the soda is even more healthy in Denmark ounce for ounce. Whether you can taste trans fats is one thing, but HFCS definately tastes like crap compared to cane sugar - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+18This is no surprise. US restaurants have such obscene portions. The 'small' soda size in the States is a 'large' in most of Europe.
- ElectroRent, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Does a government really have the right to tell people what they can and cannot eat?
- gabebear, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8True, but it's likely that our bodies can't even really use trans fats.
unsaturated fats raise HDL(good cholesterol) and lower LDL(bad cholesterol)
saturated fats raise HDL(good cholesterol) and raise LDL(bad cholesterol)
trans fats lower HDL(good cholesterol) and raise LDL(bad cholesterol)
Trans fats don't exist in any quantity in nature and have only become prevelant in our diets in the last 40 years or so with obscene amount of them showing up in the last 20 years. Every study shows that trans fats are basically poison. - charmedguy18, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Trans Fat is only its name. Your body doesn't recognize it so it gets put in your blood stream. From there, it turns into plaque and sticks to your arteries. If you actually knew anything about it, maybe you would know these things.
- Chaos12, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Its still not healthy in denmark, just not as bad as in US or South Africa
- TheReport, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11Is this the same Denmark that created the Danish? ;)
Last time I checked a one Danish could kill a horse. - jaxshores, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6My friend's exchange student from Denmark was the manager of a McDonalds in Sweeden. I was facinated to find out that the chain is more of a restaurant in Europe than in the US.
- nebunezzar, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10Though valid, what you said had nothing to do with the article. It's about the fats in the foods, not the portions.
- yukevster, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8The first time I went to America I couldn't believe how right the rumours were - Americans are the most disgustingly fattest people on this Earth. It's like, LardVille over there.
And, not much is being done about it. - Osjpr, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6"A large meal of chicken nuggets and french fries at McDonald's in the United States contained 10.1 grams of trans fatty acids"
""Studies show that five grams of transfat per day increase the risk of heart disease by 25 percent," Stender said." - whaught, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Mmmm another useful McNugget of information from digg
- steve693, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Would it really be so much for McDonalds to charge us an extra dime for fry's so we can get the healthier version?
- PhantomTrogdor, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Well...Here in america, Mcdonald's is downright horrible, but they've been getting better since the days of "SuperSize Me". That documentary worked miracles on america's fat problem...If only that lesson stuck. Most people over here have already forgotten about it.
- MOJIRA, on 05/17/2008, -0/+4@original: Tell me about it, my relatives jaws' drop when they see the portions we're accustomed to in the US and my grandmother has no problem telling me how much of a fatass I am because of it.
- antdude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This is why I don't eat food from fast food restaurants anymore.
- CBTF, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Uh.. i live in canada and portions were the same here as in Germany..
- rauz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Say whhhaaaa? I live in Sweden and I've been to a lot of McDonald's both in Europe and in the States...they're the same only different menus and maybe more choices here.
- Nyghtewynd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Would it really be so much for you to vote with your feet and *not* buy unhealthy fries if you don't want them?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6It looks like the moderation system has started to work its magic. I love it; people no longer have to acknowledge facts that contradict their insane beliefs..
"Here in america, Mcdonald's is downright horrible"
Who says McDonald's is NOT horrible elsewhere? Oh, right...the headline...I should have pointed out how idiotic that is sooner.
McDonald's is not healthy in ANY country!
"they've been getting better since the days of 'SuperSize Me'."
No, they haven't.
"That documentary worked miracles on america's fat problem."
No, it didn't.
Now, you see, Theo, we've gone through almost the entire comment, which was rated 3 by Digg members, and have yet to find a single true statement. It's only at the end that we get something FACTUAL.
"Most people over here have already forgotten about (Super Size Me)."
That's true. Most people HAVE forgotten about Super Size Me. I guess one out of four is not bad, but I'm stumped as to how this comment made it up to 3.
@bash
"so people should forget the dramatic and detrimental effects McDonald's has on people's health?"
a) When did I say that?
b) When did Super Size Me make that point with any degree of competence and rationality?
Oh, right. a) I didn't. b) It didn't.
That piece of celluloid trash was just another trendy activist-shocker in the fashion of Academy Award-winning propagandist Michael Moore. I'm sure you must think Leaving Las Vegas did a great job of making the point that alcohol in moderation is bad for you, but reasonable people tend to know the difference between hyperbole and level-headedness. Gorging yourself on McDonald's every day without exercising does not show that McDonald's is bad for you. I could super size ***** lattes and fruit smoothies to get the same result if I wanted.
The whole activist-shocker genre is just ***** garbage. They are "documentaries" only in the sense that they document the act of propagandizing and the behavior of extremist *****.
If you want to promote healthy alternatives to McDonald's, go for it. I don't like McDonald's either. But don't pretend that supporting screwballs like Morgan Spurlock is the same thing, because it isn't. Try supporting rational people--or maybe thinking for yourself.
Films like Super Size Me are useful only in the sense that VD films of the 1940s were useful. - CheapDigWannbe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Well I am sure that both are still quite harmful.... It's like comparing two single star rated cars and saying that mine is less deadly than yours.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"The first time I went to America I couldn't believe how right the rumours were - Americans are the most disgustingly fattest people on this Earth. It's like, LardVille over there."
All the rumors are true. You wouldn't believe how many Jews there are here.
And, not much is being done about it.
Okay. I give to the count of ten before some liberal demonstrates his inability to comprehend irony by downmodding this comment. But there is a serious point in addition to being funny.
In my previous comment I wrote:
"Now, if anyone has ideas on how we can make it socially unacceptable for people to be fat, I'm all ears."
Elitism is not the way. Every trailer park resident in the U.S. knows that liberals are skinny and rich. They see them on TV, and they know that the skinny rich people hate them. But that doesn't make them want to stop eating McDonald's.
Now, I hate fat people. I am admittedly fat-phobic. Since I define "fat" as the worst of negative attributes, I am by definition, in my own view, BETTER than all fat people. So why is it that I take offense at yukevster's comment?
I take offense at yukevster's comment because it was a snide elitist dig at Americans. The guy has demonstrated his insane liberal basis in thread after thread. He hates Americans. He thinks he's better than Americans, because they are Americans. "LardVille" is just a convenient pejorative term for Americans.
And, worse still, the statement is not even accurate. The most disgustingly fattest people on this Earth are the goddamn Eskimos!
(I kid the eskimos. U.S.A. actually is the fattest nation at present. But yukevster didn't write nation--he wrote people, which has a totally different meaning. Forgetting even that many indigenous cultures are fatass and proud, the statistics vary from nation to nation by sex and age group. The fattest nation may not be home to the "fattest people" of any given demographic.)
Here are some inconvenient facts.
UK "fattest nation in Europe":
http://www.menshealth.co.uk/news/story.phtml?id=1545
Mexico soon to be "fattest nation":
http://www.irishhealth.com/index.html?level=4&id=8567
European Obesity Rates Surpassing American Levels:
http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/002677.html
This last article points out the European Union actually has more fat MEN than the U.S. Maybe it's the runway shows and sexy magazines that keep their women thin. - StarSaber, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It is possible to make fast food healthy, and good. This story proves that point. I am part owner of a fast food restaurant (not Mcdonalds, but a Maid-Rite) we strive to offer healthy, good tasting food. Our burgers are so lean (usually 95% or more) that Cardiologists recomend their patients eat at our store. We use a high quality no cholestorol oil for the fryers (I think McDonalds just recently stopped using beef lard in their Fryers), We also offer salads.
- pjsk8, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"you mean mcdigg?"
No, he doesn't. - rauz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This feels like ***** to me. On one of my many visits to Copenhagen (that's in Denmark) I ordered my usual Veggie burger at McD...they looked at me like I was an alien, charged me the amount of a regular Big Mac and just gave me the same regular Big Mac with the meat removed. Yeah thanks.
- FlyingLlama, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4with too much fat, you die.
- ctitze2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I have to say that McDonalds tastes a lot better in Europe than in the US although its slightly more expensive. The last time I went to McDonalds was to try one of those Gourmet Chicken Sandwiches which in my opinion was expensive, tiny and wasn't as fresh as other fast food places. Well I give it the article a digg+++
- suppazone, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Please next time you come here try something different than a big mac - we got so much more to offer;)
- gabebear, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6trans fats are cheap, but are basically poison. Nobody should be eating them
By banning food with large amounts of trans fats you increase the market for healthier foods, driving down the price of stuff humans should be eating into a range where the "poor" can obtain them.
do you even know what trans fats are? - bash, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7...so people should forget the dramatic and detrimental effects McDonald's has on people's health?
....alright...any other life long lessons we might want to forget as well? - CRASSPUNXTEXHTV, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@jimmygoon becuse if someone did'nt read my first comment i am sure somewon would bitch about my terrible spelling
- nebunezzar, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Screw it, you're gonna die either way.
- sleepless, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"Ironically, despite mounting concerns over rising levels of obesity worldwide, the European Union has urged Denmark to withdraw its anti-fat legislation, arguing that it presents a trade barrier."
Human lives vs. the all-mighty dollar. Yay! - Agret, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5you mean mcdigg?
- gabebear, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I'd say it depends on what kind of country you live in. I'd say putting trans fats in food is a little below putting rat droppings in burgers.
Should either be banned? Any country that bans rat feces should probably ban trans fats. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Buy McDonald's stock and suggest that at the shareholder meeting.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3McDonald's last compensated me in 1997. I had ordered an iced tea and gotten a cup full of ice with a squirt of tea in it. I complained to the manager. I was given a refund.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I REALLY don't get this argument. Where do people live where McDonalds costs less than a head of lettuce or a bag of carrots? It is not cost, it is laziness.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Why don't the fast food places just make the stuff healthy in the first place?
- DavidMA, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4How dare they choose human health over money. I didn't realize a government could pass a law that would benefit the people over the corporation.
- pjsk8, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"I am sure the survey is accurate but wouldn't it be void because it was done by someone from Denmark and its comparing denmark to the usa"
No, because facts are facts wherever you go. You're saying that the survey is biased, but the facts stand that McDonalds is healthier in Denmark than in the US, regardless of who is conducting the survey. - nebunezzar, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7Yeah it does. I mentioned the fat, that's on topic.
- NoNewJersey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2While I do not support legislation banning one's consumption of a particular food, Americans, as it has been shown, simply cannot exercise control when it comes to nutritional choices. Compounding this fact, the poor shown significantly higher levels of obesity than those of a higher economic bracket. Why? Fast food like McDonalds as cheap and abundant, while fresh vegetables and produce are priced at a premium rate. Considering the fact that over 1/3 of children in the US are classified as obese, we as a nation need to face this problem head on. Of course, there will always be an individual that attests to consuming foodstuffs like McDonalds (I use the term foodstuffs loosely in this context) has no impact on his or her health. I must say in reply to this that is primarily due to individual genetic and other lifestyle choices: note thought that this does not hold for all individuals. There is a grave problem facing our society (US) and the world in general-defending McDonalds does not remedy it. When did they last compensate you?
- NGNR, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I have also noticed a difference in taste between the McDonalds in Europe and Australia. Somehow, it just isn't the same.
- gabebear, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Are you thinking about olestra? http://www.cspinet.org/new/olestra.html
Trans fats have never been linked to diarrhea; just obesity, heart disease, diabetes, and some other nasty stuff. You should be running to the toilet with the same frquency in Denmark or America.
At least in America they tell you what poison you're eating - johndi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1So what type of Coronary disease is healthy, the one where you ate veggies instead of meat?
- aiwha, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I thought turkey was good for you.
- cartwheels, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@koshak, its not really laziness as often as it is lack of time. When both parents work a job (or several in the case of the extremely poor), do you think they have time to prepare a healthy meal? Probably not. But they will find time to stop at a drive thru. If healthy food was handed out the way fast food was, then obesity wouldn't be such a problem. Convenience and price, however, dictate what the average American eats each day. Food that is good for you is neither convenient or cheap (when prepared, obviously it's cheap in a supermarket).
And personally, I like McDonald's. I really want a Big Mac right about now. And I'm not fat. - v0id, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2reading all this makes me hungry for some fries... too bad everything will be closed by the time im off work =(
- Nyghtewynd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Wait...increasing the demand for something lowers prices?
Do you even know what economics is? -
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