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- mwales, on 10/12/2007, -0/+36Our IT department sent out a global email indicating that this update ended up erasing 100K executables company wide. This is probably more destructive (atleast in recent memory) than any virus that has ever gotten spread through our system.
- Califax, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23Wheres my anti-virus for my anti-virus
- realnebby, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Symantec had 2 false positives last week.
- monzsca, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17German engineering in the house.
- diagonalfish, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14"See that, children? It's called 'redundancy'."
Seriously, how many people have to make the "Windows is a virus" joke before it's not funny anymore? I mean, talk about cliched.
Furthermore, how many of those people are running Windows? :P - luchid, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12A clear example of ineptitude.
- jiminoc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8yes because all the grandmothers in the world know to update their virus definitions daily... derrrrrrr
- Peat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8It's also for people who know better but have wives and kids.
- burke, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8As cynical as your comment sounds, I have to agree. I ran Windows for aver a year and only once had a virus -- and I take full responsibility for this one -- an archive of rather shady origins.
- rhawk301, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Does your company have the erase set on purpose? Most companies simply Quarantine the virus files. Our company has over 1000 machines, about 1/4 were "infected". We ran a GPO script which restored most files. However, our IT branch was running around helping people out too. What a disaster!
- recipher, on 10/12/2007, -10/+15See? This is why I still use Windows 3.11. It's rock solid and I can run any program I want (except excel).
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -13/+18I do, it didnt flag the rest of microsoft's software
- 0Troy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5There was something like this with trend a bit ago. An update would kill XP SP2 boxes if rebooted, fortunately trend was able to get another update out before most people could reboot :-)
Troublesome, yes, but not as destructive as this!
Cheers to quality control! - VulnoX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5What the HELL does that have to do with anything?
Like there has never been an Apple made software bug.
Like maybe the 1.1 firmware for the iPod 5th gen that made most people's videos no longer work? Took away the backlight toggle holding down the Menu button? This is because of Mcafee, which can be used on Mac's cant it? So can MS Excel, so how does this not affect Mac's?
I have an iPod 5th gen, you can look all over places like ilounge and read all about it. At least this only affects the few people that still use that AV software, not the millions who own a 5G and never expected Apple to further limit its use.
Take your BS somewhere else please.
I LOVE MY APPLE PRODUCT OMG NVR NE PROBLEMS... - sophiaperennis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Yes, way too late to report this now. This was patched on Friday with the 4716 DAT file, a few hours after the faulty 4715 DAT file was released. One could argue, that this is a good lessons learned for big corporations, to set up a test-machine for each daily DAT release, to first test it on e.g. 10,000 random files, to verify it doesn't find any false-positives. Or maybe mcafee could do this too !
- OwenX, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6McAfee has always done crap like this to me.
- Jams, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Good job we test our AV updates on test-machines before distributing.
- kilodelta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3i bet the guy who gets fired for this screwup will post (whine) about the "secret inner workings of McAfee" on his blog, and it'll get posted on digg.
- darthmdh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3McAfee is one bane of my existence. The company I once worked for used F-Secure Antivirus which was absolutely brilliant. Low overhead, quick updates, v.good engine whose heuristics would stop stuff no definitions had been released for. Oh, and they fully support everything on Linux too so you can stop viruses before they get to a system that could potentially be infected by the virus in the first place.
After it was acquired, everything had to comply with the new standard which was McAfee. All McAfee does is destroy any hope you still had left of being productive on a box running Microsoft Windows. It'll run a full system scan during business hours despite it being told otherwise - rendering the box unusable for a good part of the day, and constantly slows all file access by about 400%. It consumes 20% of the cpu power of a 2Ghz machine when "idle" - this jumps to 100% of course when you even think about glancing sideways at a file. It's a pathetic joke of a program. Oh, and the virus definition file (v 4716) currently contains less than a fifth of what F-Secure knew 8 months ago. The program was (possibly - still is) susceptible to a mime-based attack documented on bugtraq which means a specially-crafted virus could always sneak past (lots of other engines were also affected - F-Secure was not one of them)
Basically, avoid McAfee, its complete garbage. - ModernTenshi, on 10/12/2007, -8/+11Oh snap!
Good thing I use OpenOffice.org then . . . . - barrys, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Mcafee is such junk, same with norton. Who uses this *****?
Norton uses 85% of system resources and mcafee deletes system files. I tried mcafee once and it deleted my friggin windows option and a few other things.
HTTP://GRISOFT.COM
It's free. It's 10x better than either Norton or McAfee. STOP PAYING FOR TRASH. - draegloth, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3you kind of have to update virus scanners regularly to make them work... you can't really leave them alone.
you must have a particularly nasty strain of the McAfeeAnti.Virus if it hosed your system without you ever touching it...
Use AVG. It's free, it works, and it adds a little color to the system tray. - goatrandy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2+Digg for another calm user. 1500+ users, and zero virus's in the last 2 years. Clam is the shiznit.
Filter your ingress, and you egress, all else will take care of itself. - panique, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I guess all the usual people who digg stories out here to get them to the front page were in re-image/re-installation hell today.
- inverselimit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2A bit ironic... Excel is probably the best program redmond has ever come up with, less like a virus than the rest. It is the only one I miss after switching over to Linux. (I know, there is OO, but I have all the Excel keybindings and menus in muscle memory).
- goatrandy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I know. I use OO.org everyday, but its a sorry replacement for Excel. Word, great, but It sucks at Excel.
Although the mysql data-binding stuff IS kinda cool, its still a long way behind Excel for ease of use. - therernospoons, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6one more reason NOT to use bloatware like Mcafee and Norton AVs.
- clickwir, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3After living through the hell that mcafee caused us today, all I have to say about this particular article/post/tread.
WAY too little
WAY too late.
For a company that actually uses and updates daily with mcafee, this was huge. Every major news website had it. Slashdot had it. Where was digg? Then, when it is posted... oh it's just excel. - agimat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1way to be putting out fires at work and posting on digg at the same time :)
- gsmithEIDW, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1AVG Rules? A closed source application that you have to keep manually updating every so often with a somewhat crippled set of features and an archaic interface. That doesnt rule.
Maybe their commercial product is better, but to suggest the free one is good enough for everybody including large organisations is somewhat short sighted. - vigil, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2AV smacked a few of our servers really badly. Lotus Domino products included (thankfully only three of our Domino servers updated before we took the auto-patching offline).
Not a big deal, except for the fact that one of the servers that got tagged is in the Netherlands. All sorts of executables were flagged (logoff.exe, a slew of print spooler components, MS Office components, and various portions of the Domino service). Still trying to put out the fires today, and this is only the server environment. Word from the HD guys is that end-users' systems got hit 5x worse.
Like the first comment, I don't think we've ever been hit this hard by even a virus. Wonder how upper management is going to take this one. - System84, on 10/12/2007, -8/+9A clear example of why you should not use McAfee products. They have never been good and they never will be good.
- inverselimit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Didn't know about the mysql data binding, I'll have to try that out. Thanks.
- mynickel, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6That's not all:
http://digg.com/security/McAfee_update_crashes_hundreds_of_apps - master_of_fm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1the RETAIL versions are definitely bloatware, but they version they are talking about is the CORPORATE version. if you have ever used either the Norton or McAfee COPRPORATE version you would realize that they are unabtrusive and just do there job.
- SnowSurfns, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I can personnaly say I hate the mcafee corporate version, invasive and impossible to turn off to execute something that could be considered a virus
- weiran, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don't bother to use a real time antivirus scanner anymore. I can't remember the last time I was infected with a virus. I don't download dodgy email attachments, I don't browse crack/warez sites, but I will do a manual scan using ZoneAlarm for any strange files.
- chimona, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i feel ur pain man.. we should start a support group for people who broke their computers knowing full well what they were doing was wrong
but how would we know when to meet... our computers broken and all. nm. - gamersedge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1it also did this to BF2 and google video player.
- Zjm7891, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3The answer is 10 people... first time its funny... second time it sucks
- skatingrox, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6Good thing I use avast :P
- fredinator, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2you forgot ms antispyware kills internet explorer :)
- tennman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I'm forced to by my university. Can't use their network unless you install their version of McAfee. I'm not techie enough to find a workaround, if there is one.
No problems with Excel today, though. - master_of_fm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1why would you use GAIM?
- pt4117, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm surprised it hit so many people. From TFA it said that it only happened if there was a manual scan, or a scheduled one. I know that 11-4 is a big Window, but I wouldn't have guessed that that many people would schedule these scans right in the middle of the day.
- MrC539, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Sheesh guys, lighten up and learn to take a joke. I use Excel too :-)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6*I wonder how many negitive diggs I can get...*
*gives it a try*
PENIS!!!!!!!!!!!! - kramer3d, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Wow it took me so long to figure out how to uninstall this piece of ***** (came buitlin with my PC) I finally figured out that when I updated, it uninstalled the old one... but I hit cancel before it finished ;o) works everytime
- copper7op, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I work with CenterBeam a company that delivers high end IT solutions, and this is SUCH a pain. We have a fix for it, but about 10 000 of our users use Exel.
- dasunst3r, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1If you have McAfee, they will McF***YeeUp! :D
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