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- goat77, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18RTFA
"The Maxtor drives will also only be covered by a three-year warranty" - Klisk, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13I hope this means better quality control...
- Memitim, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Some value. At work in the IT shop we have had to send back a couple of boxloads of Maxtor drives after several dozen failed within a couple of months of one another and we still have them die regularly. We no longer accept Maxtor drives as replacements from our OEMs and will never purchase them. I, myself, used to be a Maxtor user until both Maxtor drives I owned gave up the ghost within a couple of years of purchase. No thanks, Seagate.
- mgrucker, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8How old are the drives you are referring to? At my store we sell about 700 hard drives a months and for almost two years now Seagate has had the lowest RMA rate.
- pcgeek101, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7I love Maxtor harddrives. I don't think I've ever had one fail on me
- nreynolds, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5bad sectors ARE cool. You just don't understand popular culture...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4texpundit -- then you've been lucky. They had bearing problems like you would not believe. To fix the problem, they just shortened the warranty.
- diggduggjoe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Anecdotal evidence is ***** without true statistics.
My belief is that all drives are ***** for they are mechanical in nature. I have Maxtors that have outlived Seagates, Western Digitals that have over 7 years on them and a ton of dead Seagates, IBM/Hitachis, Western Digitals, Maxtors. I even have a few pure Quantum SCSI drives that are functional. A good hard drive is really the luck of the draw for good design, great implementation of that design and a good day in the factory.
I love competition, so I hope that at least a pair of HD manufacturers survive. I hate to imagine the IA64 PCs we would be tortured with, if AMD did not produce x86-64 technology. The fact is Intel wanted to constrict us into their proprietary scheme, but AMD moved to the most logical choice of just expanding the current successful platform. Oh, my god! The most logical choice beat out a proprietary scheme to the benefit of civilization! I am shocked!
All I know for sure is competition is good!! - WarPirate, on 10/12/2007, -7/+9Hopefully this means the maxtor drives will now carry the 5 year warranty
- Electrox3d, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Yeah, the LOW value line.... i've had nothing but failures with maxtors over the years.
- SVPirate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Every hard disk manufacturer has had 'bad patches' where dirves have slipped through quality control. It's just Maxtor have had multiple instances in the last 18 months, to the extent that they eventually conceded to Seagate. It's hard to ignore, for example, the veritable *****-storm of people who had Maxtor OneTouch (original design) units die totally inside 6 months. I once read about 100 bad reviews just on one online store alone of that product, all with the same complaint. That many people can't be classed as a purely anecdotal, surely?
It's not to say, however, this an issue limited to Maxtor though. 'Bad Streaks' have popped up at IBM, Western Digital and Seagate in the last 5-6 years. The only reason I won't touch Maxtors currently is I saw no evidence that they had improved their QC since thier last 'issue', nor would they offer any decent warranties to cover the drives.
As for anecdotal evidence, it is of course silly to take one persons word for it, but if you hear the same complaint from enough people surely that 'buzz' abive nominal levels is enough to make you think maybe there is something in it? - mattjvw, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4We deal with many hard drives in server-class loads, and have had great luck with WD and Hitachi, and horrible with Maxtor. We're just starting to use the seagate 750s, and they seem to be fine as well.
But hard drives WILL fail, especially under heavy loads. Faithful reliance on any one manufacture is foolish. The safest practice is a RAID-1 mirror. Hopefully with hard drives with long warranties and good RMA policies. - superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If we're going by anecdotal evidence, I've have disasterous luck with Maxtor drives. Three drives died totally on me, these were pretty recent 300GB drives and one older 30GB drive in a Dell.
They were a gerat brand in the past but I wouldn't use any Maxtor drive made in the past three years even if it were free. I use only Seagate drives now, partly because they are the only drive maker to offer a real warranty. - geronimo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Everyone posting their experiences with HDs should keep in mind the line they're buying. For example the western digital RE2s have NCQ(reordering), 5 year warranties and are meant for the enterprise. Every manufacturer has an 'enterprise' line which should last longer esp. for server loads. There's a difference between playing battlefield 1942 every day and a database writing to the disks 24/7.
- ezran, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4"Seagate intends its new Maxtor drives to be high-volume products that appeal to more value-conscious market segments, BUT THE DRIVES THEMSELVES ARE BASED ON SEAGATE'S EXISTING CORE TECHNOLOGY"
The new Maxtor drives should be good then. Thanks, Seagate! - superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yes that 500MB drive still works because Maxtor did not suck back then. Around five years ago that changed dramatically, and now Maxtor drives are horrible unreliable.
I used to not buy Seagates at all but they got better - much better, as you can tell by the warranty that no other drive maker is willing to offer consumers. - Randude, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7In my experience, Maxtor drives have always worked much better in applications like DVR's. I just hope that Seagate incorporates some of these capabilities into its product line.
- MasterGrief, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4In the end, I'd say it just comes down to each of our experiences. I know people who, like myself, had several bad experiences in a row with a company, and refuse to go back to them. Some people get good experiences, some don't. Simple as that.
- smohan123, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@DjViper
That's a a bit non-sequitor.
At first I thought to myself, "the biggest hard drive manufacturer is buying out one of the other 'Big Three' players in the market... can someone say monopoly?"
Well, I can say monopoly, but I don't think so in this case. For instance, there are more people on AnandTech with Western Digital HDDs than Seagate right now. I tend to see more WD HDDs sold where I work, I see more of them in computers pre-installed, too. Now I own two Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 250 GB SATA HDDs and I love them to death, but I also own a WD My Book Essential 250 GB External HDD, and frankly, I don't even know of Seagate external HDD offerings. WD has a bunch of external hard drive series, too.
I know I've read from multiple sources that Seagate is the biggest, but why does it seem like there are more WD drives out there (granted, I am looking at a rather small demographic of consumers and computers)?
In any case, I guess there's no contest as to who's the biggest now given that all the Maxtors that are sold are Seagates where the spindle hits the platter (sorry, that was a bad analogy to the colloquialism "rubber meets the road"). - compu73rg33k, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Same. I loved how my 200 GB harddrive decided bad sectors were cool within 5 months.
- Elektriq, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Finally no more confusion...
- mementh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i agree.. i have had 2 maxtors die on me.. one 80 gig and one 200 gig
they replaced them both.. but.. i don't use them as my main drive anymore.. the 200 giger *knocks on wood* started to have some major CRC problems a month or two ago.. so its gonna be used till it does die.. and nothing on there is unbacked up - pglowiak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1No Seagate, no Maxtor. I bought a 200gb drive when I got my new computer. I have been cursing the computer until I recently ran a test on the drive, and it turns out that the drive is defective. I have used Maxtor drives up until this one, but this one is the last. It also didn't help that the anonymous major office supply store I bought it from has it sitting in their inventory for 6 months until I bought it. So much for the one-year warranty.
I feel sorry for Seagate, they just bought a lot of headaches with Maxtor.
Western Digital hopefully has recovered from the POS era, so that will be my next one. At least their warranty doesn't suck as badly. - nogami, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I was initially a bit wary of WDs (after having some bad experiences with them a few years back), but after purchasing a Raptor 75 for my main PC, I'm sold. It nearly doubled the speed of my system booting. A very good investment!
- Dakusan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I've had at least 6 maxtors die on me. On the other hand, SeaGate harddrives have always given me 100%, and I've been running some 5+ years. This gives me a lot of mixed feelings...
- Ryosen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Maxtor "value"? Isn't that sorta like calling a big guy "Tiny"?
- easy4lif, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1all the macs I've ever owned have run maxtor drives including my iMac G5 (Diamondmax 10) and my Macbook has a Seagate Momentus Drive
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Maxtors suck and we all know it. I hope Seagate in the future buries the Maxtor brand in a very large bottomless pit of despair.
- superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1In the consumer space though you can only get Seagate drives with any kind of warranty.
If you are buying the same brand try to buy them in different places to avoid having two from the same batch - they'd be much more likley to fail at the same time.
I agree that Raid-1 is a really good idea, don't forget the third drive to swap out every now and again and keep offsite! - osbjmg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Just rewrite them to 0's, you don't need them anyway!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+6I've personally had nary a problem with any Maxtor drive I've ever owned. They've always been rock solid. I've got a 160gig one as my external data drive for my laptop, right now. It's been flawless.
Compare that with the myriad failed Seagate drives I've had..and it just boggles my mind that Maxtor is now the "value" (read: cheap) line. - nogami, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Oddly enough, I just (30 min ago) picked up 2.5tb worth of WD RE2 drives for my RAID-5 setup at home. I was initially thinking of Seagate, but I had a Seagate 320 blow on me within a week of purchase, and I found that the company won't do advance RMAs to Canada, which is totally unacceptable.
So screw 'em - I took my business elsewhere. Until Seagate offers advance RMAs in Canada, I won't purchase their drives again. - Pignanelli, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Thanks for the honest info. Of course, manufacturing runs, plant proceedures, engineering processes etc can vary, but it does say a bit about their quality control... Once you loose my trust it is difficult to regain it.
- Sotired, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I have been using maxtor for about 5 years and nothing but maxtor after ALL repeat ALL my WD's failed one after another in about 12 boxes. I had 2 out 15 maxtors fail both were 40gigs. all others running great. Their big appeal to me was their silent running. I work on DAWS. (Digital Audio WorkstationS) where quiet running is paramount.
I have several IDE ata133's and several S-ATA's all are so damn close to silent they have become my must have. I will be very sad to see them go. I will try seagate's now, never had great luck with them, noisy and several failures, But I did not use them wide-scale. They seemed to me like WD's . But times are different and I guess I have no real choice. We shall see. - TRENT310, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"As for bad sectors I think the ultimate drive for developing those was the Quantum Fireball. When those things started to develop read errors they sounded like arc welders."
Oh yes. Every single Quantum Fireball i've owned has eventually failed, and right now that means 9 drives ready to be opened up and used as christmas tree decoration. - compu73rg33k, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Yes. Furthermore, you should start backing up your data if you don't, because (especially if you use maxtor hdd's) you're due for one! :P
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I have never liked maxtor, i hope seagate can keep the drives quality
- BlackCow, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I have had my Maxtor drive fail on me. But I did some reasearch and other people were haveing problems with that hard drive. But its all good, I had my data backed up and I upgraded from 80 GB to a 250 GB Seagate.
- DjViper, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0http://youtube.com/watch?v=nYKITJbf0PY&mode=related&search=
I think this video speaks for itself - geronimo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I'm about to buy some drives myself(raid 10), and I'm inching towards WD RE2's. The reviews have been really good. I really like seagate's SCSI 15k cheatahs(perpendicular technology), but that would be too expensive. As for who I will buy the 5 or so 1u servers from, I'm looking at abmx.com and nixsys.com. I want to customize everything online and get decent support.
- zdiggler, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Damn!!!
I used to work for Quantum and got took over by Maxtor, they promised a lot of stuff then laid us off anyways. Now Seagate is buying them.. damn!
for Drive faliures.. Knock on wood I never had a failed drive. Only one that failed were the one I open up and see what in it. - tropican8, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2I have an amazing 300GB Maxtor Firewire/USB2 w/ 16mb cache @ 7200rpm.
Going to be weird to think of the brand as a "value" line now. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1...and some people like to eat poop, but I guess to each his own.
- generalleoff, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I mixed up two posts. I was also thinking of the post by Memitima bit above this one so some of what I said kinda makes no since to this post.
As for bad sectors I think the ultimate drive for developing those was the Quantum Fireball. When those things started to develop read errors they sounded like arc welders. - Darthmalt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1and if my HD fails i've got backups of my data. If my brakes fail I don't have a backup of me (though my car probably has parts made in asia).
- deadbaby, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1I'd buy a car made in China. 95% of the electronics I own are made in China and they all work fine.
- JackAxe, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1I've never had a Maxtor drive fail on me, but I have had every other brand do so. I guess it's just my computer karma. I was bummed ot see this merger take place.
Segate has provided me with the best tech-support though. - eldar, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3I have used maxtor with great success. I know seagate is good to. Too bad they are one company now. That much less competition which can only hurt consumers.
But I could be wrong, drives could get better and cheaper, that would be nice. - generalleoff, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2I have had nothing but good experiences with Maxtor over the years. I even have a 500MB double height (I think it has 8 platters) Maxtor that I pulled out of an old server that still runs and has been running for well over a decade now.
I mostly buy Seagates these days cuz their is always such good sales but I still have a few modern Maxtors that never give me any trouble. I guess if I had to use boxes of the things I might run into issues like you had though. - NSMike, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2For a while there, all Western Digitals were piles of puke. Recently, from what I understand, they've cleaned up their act significantly, but prior to their cheap-o days, they were THE hard drive to buy - now I won't touch them with a 10 foot pole. My desktops contain nothing but Seagate drives now. In 13 years of building PCs, they're the ONLY drive I've ever had that hasn't failed on me.
...Well, no. One Seagate failed, but that was after I dropped it on the concrete floor of my basement. -
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