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- windmillninja, on 11/23/2007, -7/+363For a billionaire, he sure is irrelevant these days.
- t0ny, on 11/23/2007, -10/+230Me to Mark Cuban... ***** you!
I use bit torrent for a lot of legit uses, you block it I cancel my internet. - carlj133, on 11/23/2007, -1/+192What an ass! Maybe he's just angry no one even want to steal his crappy movies.
- autosovereign, on 12/06/2008, -5/+180***** idiot
- 10001110101, on 11/23/2007, -2/+98Funny, as I would assume that most people who use P2P on a regular basis would like to tell their ISPs "Block all that consumer internet traffic. I'm tired of a bunch of kids hogging all my bandwith by watching emo Youtube videos. And block the hog Flickr too - we're all sick of seeing baby photos, sunset photos, cat photos, etc. Print them off and mail them to your friends! And you know what? There's too much of that Xbox Live/Warcraft ***** going on.. Block all the games!"
Statements like this puzzle me: how does someone who's (presumably) intelligent - he is a billionaire entrepreneur - end up sounding like such a ignoramous? Has the money made him stupid? - greevar, on 11/23/2007, -1/+94Who is Mark Cuban and why should anyone listen to what he says?
- Philluminati, on 11/23/2007, -3/+68P2P and it's development should be pushed. It's currently the fastest way to share data on the internet so it's at the forefront of technology. It shouldn't be repressed. Some of these algorithms may filter back in to other uses like traffic congestion control. I think he's under some delusion that the internet will increase in speed and all his downloads will work seamlessly. I don't think that'll ever be the case.
In fact, if it is....I submit the idea that we should all ban uses from using 3 tabs in firefox since it places too much strain on the internet and it's "ripping" off comcast who are only offering 1 internet connection. lol - randysouth, on 11/23/2007, -1/+63Billionaire by luck, idiot by choice.
- Elranzer, on 11/23/2007, -0/+50The only person who thinks Mark Cuban is relevant is Mark Cuban. Seriously, he needs his Internet privileges revoked.
- BoneheadFarker, on 11/23/2007, -1/+50The guy is only a billionaire out of sheer blind luck. He's just an average geek who was in the right place at the right time. No one would even know his name if he didn't get into the boom as early as he did...
- kidcodea, on 11/23/2007, -1/+47what will it take FOR THIS ***** TO STFU ONCE AND FOR ALL?
at least Ted Stevens is amusing.
i hope this dude stops spreading hypocritical lies, halftruths, and most of all, stupidity once and for all, and lets hope for that to happen it wont have to be by force.
we get it, u got lucky and made a buck, now shove it up your cocky ass, coz no one with brains is interested in you ignorance u piece of corporate *****. - fubar1367, on 11/23/2007, -6/+52***** Mark Cuban period.
- murf43143, on 11/23/2007, -0/+40I love when a billionaire mentions "another mans dime".
*****, - inactive, on 11/23/2007, -4/+41God damnit, stop using P2P, my tubes are clogged! Don't you see how your puny little 60k/sec download is slowing down the rotation of the earth? P2P will cause earth to lose it's gravity.
- wbeavis, on 11/23/2007, -0/+29That's one way to cut down bandwidth, drive people off the network.
- austindkelly, on 11/23/2007, -1/+27I like the point about saturating your connection. I suppose if my internet connection was free, then i would not mind some p2p blockage or bandwidth throttling, but I pay a lot of money to get the ultra fast connection that i have. Do I use its full capacity 100% of the time, no... But I should be able to if i want to.
- ours, on 11/23/2007, -0/+25He's rich, let him get fiber optic access or something like that. Get your own tubes you greedy bastard!
- austindkelly, on 11/23/2007, -0/+24i dont know mr cuban personally, but i can say that money can and usually does make people stupid. the guy probably doesn't even tie his own shoes... besides, if you want to be the talk of the internet (which I think he desperately seeks attention) then you should make a bold irrational statement like "wikipedia is complete inaccurate and should be removed as it taints our youth and old peoples minds with false information"
- Gir53457, on 11/23/2007, -0/+21So does anal sex.
- voyvf, on 11/23/2007, -1/+21You fail at the internet. Go away.
- airiox, on 11/23/2007, -0/+20How about he focus on getting fiber to everyone so there will be no issue of shared limited bandwidth as there is with Comcast's crappy cable connections instead of attacking a perfectly legitimate use of an internet connection. Maybe we should take it a step further and block all video content including youtube and Mark Cuban's own Hd.net in order to free up the intertubes due to comcast's and other ISP's active campaigns to stop fiber networks from being layed.
- britishrob, on 11/23/2007, -0/+20He got lucky in the dot-com boom, thats all. Now he thinks he's the master of the internets... Arrogant fool
- rouslan, on 11/23/2007, -0/+18What about increasing bandwidth in the US instead of worrying about p2p downloaders (who only affect cable internet connections)? I've heard that the average speed here is only about 2Mbps.
- inactive, on 11/23/2007, -1/+18***** him.
- bshock, on 11/23/2007, -0/+17I recall that Mr. Cuban has said some incredibly stupid, misinformed things about P2P in the past, so this bizarre behavior is only consistent. One can only hope that the adage about "a fool and his money" will soon be realized in his case.
- drakenlot, on 11/23/2007, -1/+18Correction, he was never important.
- phantomex, on 11/23/2007, -0/+171st stage of dementia.
- carpespasm, on 11/23/2007, -0/+16yeah? and? if you pay for the line you're paying for the line. Comcast sells me a connection to the internet. What I do with it is my business and my responsibiity. If I'm paying for an unlimited bandwidth at a certain speed, them I'm expecting to be able to use that line at that speed 24/7/365. If Comcast needs to drop more lines to keep up their end of the bargain that's their problem.
- digitalarcanum, on 11/23/2007, -3/+19This guy is a *****. I agree with Ars on this. I took the liberty of leaving a message on his blog:
"Let me just say that you're missing the point entirely. The statistics vary drastically depending on where you go, but what you aren't realizing in your corporate musings of "how can I screw my customers over more efficiently and make bigger profit" is that 40% of all internet traffic is JUST bit torrent traffic. Legitimately used by a business or a user to distribute patches files, ISO's, updates, movies, music, or whatever, or not (aka piracy) bit torrent alone makes up 40% of all internet traffic at the very least. Bear in mind this does NOT include other forms of P2P traffic. What you're telling us basically is to shove off, that the internet service we pay for is not ours to use as we see fit. We get advertised 6Mbps down and 1.0Mbps up with comcast, and you're telling us not to use it? Fat chance. If comcast didn't want us using P2P traffic to begin with, they should have put that in their TOS. What they're doing now is not only illegal according to the FCC's laws of internet service, and Illegal in the sense that they're impersonating client computers to eliminate connections, it violates their terms of service.
..and what pray tell is your response? "use google video." what the hell kind of a response is that? google video is not a be all end all for file sharing. You can't share music. you can't share documents. you can share patch files. you can't share ISO images. Not to mention that some videos aren't agreeable with google video's/youtube's TOS either.
..You're not very bright, are you? you're telling 40% of the internet (not including edonkey, gnutella, and lotus notes users that comcast is blocking as well) to "***** off". When a company advertises services and it can't deliver, it's their problem to fix, and since I pay for my service, it should NOT affect me or the services I choose to run under the TOS, regardless of how much of the bandwidth I'm entitled to is used." - shanesemler, on 11/23/2007, -2/+18Good question. Apparently, he was someone important at some point in time.
- moonaust, on 11/23/2007, -0/+15One more notch on Mark Cubans loser belt.......
- JudgeMonkey, on 11/23/2007, -7/+22screw ugly, he's got cash. I'd go gay for a few million, and you're lying if you say you wouldn't.
- BrokenVisage, on 11/23/2007, -2/+17***** you Cuban, ***** you and the mavericks you rode in on.
- Delta32521, on 11/23/2007, -0/+14No.
- phantomex, on 11/23/2007, -0/+14Just for the record... I always thought this Cuban guy was a dumbass. He needs all the bandwith for his pornfolio.
- lazyfisherman, on 11/23/2007, -2/+15As long as the telcos refuse to use money they're given on building a proper, modern infrastructure, better and faster ways to spread information within the existing system will be badly needed..
- Elranzer, on 11/23/2007, -0/+13He's not a billionaire entrepreneur by intellect. He's a billionaire by sheer luck.
- kidcodea, on 11/23/2007, -0/+13and wtf does that comment have to do with this article?
- mrmacky, on 11/23/2007, -0/+13Me to Mark Cuban: I want my BitTorrent downloading to be as fast as possible, all users who do not take advantage of their connection are wasted bandwidth and should have all service on all ports blocked.
/sarcasm - backness, on 11/23/2007, -1/+13well in the order of *****, O'Reilly comes first.
- init100, on 11/23/2007, -0/+12No, I don't think so. This especially applies to large files served from a single server to a large amount of users. In the HTTP case, the server has to provide the requested file to all users, while in the Bittorrent case, the server only has to provide the file to a few users.
In addition, since the file is sliced up into small pieces, the server can send different pieces to different users, and the users can then load different pieces from different peers, giving a much higher aggregate bandwidth than would be possible with a single HTTP server, where every user must load the requested file sequentially from the server.
With Bittorrent, the download speed actually increases with the number of simultaneous downloaders, while with HTTP, the download speed decreases with the number of simultaneous downloaders. - pbaehr, on 11/23/2007, -0/+12"Of course, there are many legitimate uses for P2P that Google Video can't replace, like distributing Linux ISOs."
Obviously P2P has legitimate uses but we're going to have to start coming up with some fresh examples. It's only a matter of time before they realize that the average user (even the average Linux user) is not constantly downloading ISOs. - inactive, on 11/23/2007, -0/+12Mark Cuban's idiocy has no limits...
- m0neybags, on 11/23/2007, -0/+12What?!
- thebrawl, on 11/23/2007, -1/+13Mark Cuban can go block himself
- bjornski, on 11/23/2007, -0/+12Kind of the same thoughts i had when I read the "100mbit cable modem specs being tested" article.
ISP's bitching about "clogged tubes" now? Wait until they have to offer 10x the bandwidth. It won't happen. I have 100mb networking capability right now, but the ISPs are fighting tooth and nail to not have to offer anything beyond 12mb (which ain't exactly cheap in my area).
Wonder how much they'd expect people to pay for a 100mb cable subscription? Considering the cost of a 12mb connection (near $80 a month here), do they really expect people to pay $300+ a month for new tech and these speeds that are being offered in other countries for MUCH less? - inactive, on 11/23/2007, -2/+13Anyone that is business savvy would of course try to say what he is saying. If people use P2P, then their dependency on getting their fix from a dedicated web site is not needed. If P2P goes away, then everyone is forced to do business with web sites even when it is not needed. In the big picture, all "entrepreneur's" will be saying the same thing because they want a chance at getting some of your cash.
As for "freeloaders"... that is a form of social reprogramming. If enough people start to say it, then the media will catch on and start saying it, then eventually with the help of lobbyists, politicians will be calling P2P users freeloaders well. Ya, some people abuse it; just like some people abuse firearms, drugs, alcohol, vehicles, children, cold medicine, welfare, junk food, money and so on. Should we ban all of those things as well? The answer is no. If people are paying for a set amount of bandwidth, then they should be able to use that bandwidth as they see fit as long as they are not directly causing harm to someone. If the Internets was not ready for people to have 8 to 20Mb/s each, then the ISP's performed poor capacity planning and there is no excuse for that if they have even one CCIE. No, the truth is that they over-subscribe and HOPE that people don't actually use the bandwidth that they were sold. This used to happen in airports a lot until some laws were passed. So perhaps we are looking at making legislation in the wrong place?
There are already numerous applications that would cease to function properly if P2P is blocked. Let me start with the most critical. The WorldOfWarcraft Patch downloading tool uses P2P. If that stops working and I can not play WoW; then I assure you, BGP will stop working as well. I swear on it... - drakenlot, on 11/23/2007, -0/+11He made movies? Holy crap! I only heard of him when he bought the Mavs.
- thomasknowland, on 11/23/2007, -1/+11Most of the 'slowdown' that I see when I'm surfing is when the page is 'waiting for adserver.dallasmavericksrock.com'
- MrStylz, on 11/23/2007, -1/+11It is clearly justified to tase him after reading this.
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