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- futureb, on 10/12/2007, -5/+44"mark cuban the blogger" pisses me off. just because he sold an overvalued tech company at the height of the bubble he thinks he can wax intelligent on the future of the internet. the desktop PC is old news? whatever. THAT attitude is old news. his big insight here is that you can browse the internet on HDTVs? yeah, so? that means everyone is going to throw their desktop away?
- ScornForSega, on 10/12/2007, -4/+26What a douchebag.
What Mr. Cuban fails to recognize is that modularity counts for a lot and at some point, slightly older technology is good enough for most people.
Why would I want an embedded device that can only perform a few functions instead of an external device that can perform a million? I'm sure if I had $5 billion, I'd want the biggest and best as soon as it was released, but that's not the case.
Mr. Cuban, they tried this once already. See: WebTV.
And internet video will not be the catalyst for web on the TV, 'cause honestly... except for HD Rocketboom, it looks like ***** once you get past a certain screen size. See: iPod.
The infrastructure simply isn't in place to handle downloading HD video from the net constantly... except for maybe in S. Korea. And then, who's going to produce this content? I'll tell ya who: the same people who produce everything else on TV. You'll have the few one-off shows with production quality close to the big boys, but for the most part, nobody's gonna want to watch super-compressed fuzzy lip sync youtube videos on their TV... hell, they don't even want to watch that on the computer. - canewediggit, on 10/12/2007, -6/+26he's so right. dirk looked great missing just about every shot he took in game 1 on my hd plasma.
- pinnacle71, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19Listening to tech opinions from Mark Cuban is like taking financial advice from someone who won the lottery
- TroubleInMind, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17Remember when people gave a ***** about what Mark Cuban thinks about anything? Me neither.
- CraigB12, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15You've been able to browse the internet on your television since the mid 90's, but Mark Cuban just found out about it so now everything is going to turn upside down. Maybe this prediction will be different than his investment in solid gold toilets that netted him a total -27.5 million dollars.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Mark Cuban lost validity when he said buying YouTube was foolish. I don't think Google makes foolish moves. The only fool I see is this has-been blogging about what 'he thinks' is going to happen in an industry he doesn't produce for.
- neoncricket, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I'm not sure why people insist this is where the industry is going. I don't want to surf the net and do computer stuff from my TV, and neither do millions of other people. The PC isn't going anywhere.
- synapticcleft, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14I saw "Mark Cuban" in the title and stopped reading. Mark Cuban is an idiot, that is all that matters...
- lamestory, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Go Warriors!
- closertogod, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7My old 28" TV broke so instead of spending the money on a new TV I bought a 30" Monitor from Dell, resolution is 2560 x 1600 which is HD. I put a HD tuner and get HD cable or Sat. My computer is my TV. The software that comes with the HD tuner card allows me to record my shows just like DVR. My computer will do what I need and TV will be one of the million things my computer can do just like burning disc, watching movies, gaming and so on. (The monitor supports console use also.)
- Kyderdog, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9HAHAHAHHAAHAHA right
yeah and you have to buy a car every other year because of upgrades..
HD has to catch on first.....
Yeah yeah..you have one but NORMAL people don't - scabbers, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9He thinks MySpace became big because of embedded music and video? Wtf?
- dosterm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5According to this, youtube (and other internet video) is mature and old news. What? Youtube isn't mature until it has high quality, instantly accessible versions of everything ever recorded. Until then, it's a work in progress.
I don't really get what his point is at all. It's like a lot of industry buzz words strung together in a weird stream-of-consciousness rant. Oh, and the title doesn't make a damn bit of sense. - scotus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4look, i can see where he's coming from. there is an obvious disconnect between where people want to spend there time (living room) and where new stuff is (internet). but TV's will not be the future unless they become a more open platform. innovation and directtv or dish network in the same sentence? i don't think so. Media content and delivery companies are only second-most backward to the record industry.
maybe when he said browsers in your TV he was suggesting some ability for regular people to interact with the sytem and design new things. but if we have to depend on what these companies push us, they are just going to be marginalized. has he ever used a cable box from comcast? how can we expect revolutionary services from companies that want to tie our hands at every turn while nickel and diming us? the reason the internet wins is that people are constantly innovating. even if it is just repurposing technology that has been around for 8 years, anyone can do it. no one wants to go back to being force-fed by media blowhards. i thought cuban understood this. completely closed platforms will not win. - eysman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Cuban has been wrong about more things more often than anyone else alive. Don't take anything he says too seriously.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Cuban looks good when he's really mad on my HDTV. I can see his rosy cheeks and teeth clenching clearly!
- Kolar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I think that's it right there. He assumes online user created content quality wise (both technical and production wise) today is on par with and more sought after by the public. It hasn't shown to be a significant force yet against commercially created content.
- toddji, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Some interesting points in there.. But, consider his bias. He has sunk a lot of cash into his "future of TV" ventures. He started HDNet and later HDNet Movies, so yes.. he thinks that the medium that will provide those channels to the masses is the way to go. He definitely does not want to be delivering it via the Internet, and be put on even footing with any jackass with an HD video camera (which are now under $1,000 and falling).
In many ways the Internet is a great democratizer, and YouTube is an early example of that concept in video media. The old guard are fighting hard to keep their hold on their ways of doing business. Many are doing that with DRM, at least Cuban is not going that direction.. He's just lobbying for people to follow him down his traditional media path. No thanks. His examples of DirecTV or Dish interactive services don't really interest me. No, we're beyond the point of relying on one provider locking us into their service and providing whatever features they can leverage advertising revenues with.
I think I'll elect instead to get the fastest Internet pipe I can, and choose my own services on the competitive open market. - unibomber999, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3People want pc content on their tv...so, that means the pc is dead? It sounds to me like the media center pc is very much alive in that scenario.
TV = lower res pc monitor
How often do you upgrade your monitor to keep up with "new and original applications"? Not very. The only reason to do so is dramatically different resolution or size.
However, there will be a component that gets upgraded to keep up with the "new and original features" that get delivered to your television, and it will be called...THE PC!!!!
I think Mark is missing that the TV is just the output device. Something has to deliver the content. - DCstewieG, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That was your second sentence. Math Nazi to the rescue!!
Grammar Nazis have plenty to bitch about anyway, like teaching you where the shift key is. - brundlefly76, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2god please do not listen to mark cuban.
- aschapm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"HDTV is so much more important than the desktop PC!" said the founder of HDnet, completely without bias.
- nokaagnew, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Yep, Cuban does come off sounding pretty cocky.
Interesting though, especially in contrast to an article I read last week
(like this one: http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070422/BUSINESS/704220447)
about the whole 'clean slate' viewpoint re: the internet (which I think is perhaps equally ridiculous).
...also reminds of that jackass from Sony talking about the PS3 killing the PC. - spyrochaete, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@unibomber999
"People want pc content on their tv...so, that means the pc is dead?"
Insightful comment. I take this to mean that the TV is dead, not the PC. Now, if it were easy to wirelessly transmit your PC picture to your television - optionally and in addition to using a monitor - then we'd be talking. But I ain't about do my word processing on the couch. - Glidedon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Mark Cuban is a traitorous bastard.
- Topher06, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yeah, no.
While TV resolutions might vary rapidly over the next few years especially since LCD resolutions are going up and prices dropping, what "new" features are you going to want in a TV every few years? Honestly, why get a TV with everything built into it, when all you need is some form of box sitting beside it. You will upgrade the box frequently, not necessarily the TV. You don't need a TV with built in PVR, internet access, etc, etc, etc. TV's should be nothing more then monitors, where you attach something to them to add features.
Why should TV's be any different then computer monitors? Computer monitor technology has change far quicker then TV technology, yet they have had the same basic set of features for decades. Even monitors with built in speakers or USB hubs has neve caught on really. I am sure everyone would think it stupid to sell a monitor with built in Internet browsing and multimedia playback support for instance.
Basically, TV's are becoming large computer monitors, but anybody that thinks they have to be more then a monitor is sorely out of touch with reality. I can't stand that TV's even sell with sh*tty speakers in them, thats why I have $1000+ invested in a surround sound system.
Finally, TV resolutions will reach a final resolution, I mean, you won't need a 8640p resolution screen, and I would imagine even a 2160p screen is overkill unless you really have space for a 200" TV. So once the industry settles on an ideal maximum resolution where there really is no gain in quality for the amount of technology required to increase resolutions, then TV's will again become something you buy once, and then again maybe 10 years later or when it breaks down.
Perhaps there will be a market for the uber-TV, but I think the future of televisions will continue to be nothing more then monitors displaying whatever the box you plugged into it is pumping out. - NatieB, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Buried: OK, this is lame.
Mark Cuban's opinion means very little to me. - scotus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1and b/4 the grammar nazis attack, i meant their in the first sentence.
- xorbital, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2echoing the sentiments already expressed in the above comments it would seem that cuban is off the mark.
the pc will never stop evolving; most of the major technological advances you see in consumer electronics were pioneered on the pc (3d graphics acceleration, the internet etc). the future doesn't hold any reversal of this trend, as the pc will be able to do anything your HDTV can do and is an order of magnitude easier to develop on (proof: anyone know of well know/established/technologically relevant open source development being made on consumer television systems? this is outside of turning xboxes and apple tvs into miniature pcs).
mark cuban likes to talk a whole lot and its better just to ignore most of what he says. the point about pc's being the bleeding edge of tech innovation aside it is nice to see that living-room electronics have caught up to what pcs have been doing in terms of resolution for the last 10 years. - ThatsUnpossible, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You're in the same brain-squeeze as Cuban -- thinking that everyone thinks like you.
There are plenty of people that would do internet-stuff on their TVs, especially as HDTVs get cheaper, since computer video output looks so much better in HD resolutions. (If you want to know why Apple is introducing resolution independence in Leopard, load Mac OS up on a 1080p connection to a 60" LCD ... the resolution is great, but everything on the screen is ***** tiny.)
No, the idea of using your TV as a portal to view the internet is valid. But you're not going to keep buying a new TV to get upgrades. That's like saying you're going to buy a new monitor every year to get better applications. A TV is just a monitor. What is changing is all the ways you're going to start getting content and internet access to the TV. We started out with non-interactive media: video. Then we took a step up years ago to video games. Now we're into the next step, internet access. But the TVs are finally catching up to what the computer can spit out, so it looks good now.
Cuban is wrong, the PC technology will be what is upgraded most often, not the TV. Look how long it took to introduce HDTV standards from the advent of color television. That wasn't due to technology, as much as installed userbase and politics. And people are still bitching about upgrading to HDTV.
He gives examples about upgrading to 70" now and 100" in a few years. He says you'll make room for it. Make room for what? The TVs are not getting thicker, they're getting wider/taller -- but your room isn't growing. The size of the TV has to do with how close you are to the picture. Unless people are going to be lengthening their rooms, it doesn't matter.
Besides, the next step is not in larger TVs, but in smaller ones... TVs that the size of the head of a pin and beam a picture into your eye that appears as large as you want it. - toxicshok, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1technology is changing. It's converging as more technologies come together. When was that last time you bought a PDA with no cell phone functionality? When was the last time you bought a cell phone that could only make calls? Not since the '90s is my guess.
- Kolar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The web 2.0, user interconnectivity environment (not to mention the PC) is a singular activity. You may share it with others through the internet but for the most part the stuff I see on YouTube and other sites like it, is not something I want to sit down and share with my family. The PC and home entertainment overall is going in the direction of easy interconnectivity, not dominance of one device over another.
- jav1231, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Let me 'splain the obvious here. Until Joe Dirt can legitimately buy a TV for about the cost of his bi-weekly beer bill this just won't happen. Wal-mart and the like are where the vast majority of TV's are sold. Until prices come down to a decent amount (i.e. Earlene can git' one fer the trailer) we will continue to have high-end TV's and those for the masses. This is why forced digital will be delayed. Budweiser sells more than Lexus, Folks.
- sfedak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'd just like to say that I have a highly advanced device in my basement called a Commodore 64 which allows me to perform several computerized functions right on my TV screen. It's crazy!
Um, how is this new? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ThatsUnpossible
I don't think that he is only lucky for selling out broadcast.com to yahoo!, yeah, he is damn lucky but this guy was millonaire before he sellout to yahoo in the bubble:
"In July 1990, Cuban sold MicroSolutions to Compuserve—then a subsidiary of H&R Block—for $6 million.[14] "After taxes, I walked away with about $2 million," Cuban said." [wikipedia]
If you read his biography at wikipedia you'll see what a entrepreneur man he is. - ThatsUnpossible, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Mark Cuban's last big prediction was essentially media companies will be selling hard drives loaded with movies. No this wasn't before the internet, this was about a year ago. Let me know when that brilliant idea happens. (I'm still trying to figure out who would order a ton of movies at once in any format?)
This guy had one good idea in his life -- selling out to Yahoo during the bubble.
broadcast.com is now a redirect to Yahoo, and nothing tangible is left over from it.
Every time I read one of his technology columns, I'm reminded of what a lucky person he is, in the truest sense of the word.
I'm not bitter that he's rich, and I'm not bitter that he's rich and lucky. I'm bitter that he thinks he's a tech pundit just because he's rich and lucky.
Oh, I'm not a Warriors fan, but I love watching Baron Davis kick the ***** out of the Mavs... - hcetrepus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Cuban is a moron.
- The_Dude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Even if my big TV had an IP address and applications that I could run on it, and somehow split screen that from the regular programming, I think I'd rather just see the programming on the whole screen.
However if my HDTV had an IP address and I could d/l content easily and cheaply directly to it, AND watch it in 1080i...then I'd be interested. - lateralus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1what an absolutely irrelevant dork. Lets see....he sold a worthless technology at the height of the dot com bubble and now he's the oracle?
This guy needs to just stick to being a total tool at maverick games and snorting coke off of high grade prostitutes. He is not one that needs to be heard. - nokaagnew, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1oops. Looks like that there link done been broke. No big loss.
- vrillco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Even George W. Bush wouldn't take advice from Mark Cuban. The only reason this guy even has a friggin Wikipedia page is because he convinced Yahoo to buy Broadcast.com. Guess what, Broadcast.com doesn't even exist anymore, it just redirects to Yahoo. This man's sole skill is selling billion-dollar *****. He has a knack for latching onto the latest fad, inflating it with hype, then selling out to anyone with more money than brains, only to watch them crash and burn. He cashes out quickly then moves onto the next big scam.
- ahhell, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2"Remember when" .....titles made sense.
- BadUsername, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4The desktop pc will not die. In the future people will just hook their pc up to their tv, like many already do. Their pc will serve as tuner, web browser, etc. for everyone's monitor (HD TV(Thats right folks that monitor you're staring at already is an HD monitor)). Then people can use their pc as dvr, dvd video player, movie downloader, and other apps to be determined in the future. Why make a tv to do a computers work when you can just hook the computer up to the tv and switch out the computer every couple of years. Video hardware is much more expensive than computer hardware.
People will just have two PCs, one for computer stuff, the other for tv and movie stuff. - lateralus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1and my head explodes at the thought of a 70' HD airing of the Tonight Show with Jay Leno. Not all content is made for HD clarity. The standard 42" mug of Leno can cause loose stool and nausea.
- mdp8889, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2yes we all will be purchasing TVs more often do to our lack of grip on wii controllers
- sunshinelife, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0My imagionation goes to what these cheap 70' or 100' screens can do to interior design.
I am working on fixing up some apartmens that have a slight sliver of ocean view. With a 70' screen I could put a webcam on the roof and the screen in the livingroom - effectively "amplifying" the ocean view. In my market ocean view is worth about USD 200 000 per appartment.
Just goes to show some of the "new concepts and applications" Cuban is talking about. - exegesis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I think all Cuban is getting at is that the next marketplace for technology will be in the living room. It already has started no doubt, but it has a lot more potential. Like scotus said above - the x factor is def. innovation b/c of the "comcast box" style mindset that we have now.
- BadUsername, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2The desktop pc will not die. In the future people will just hook their pc up to their tv, like many already do. Their pc will serve as tuner, web browser, etc. for everyone's monitor (HD TV(Thats right folks that monitor you're staring at already is an HD monitor)). Then people can use their pc as dvr, dvd video player, movie downloader, and other apps to be determined in the future. Why make a tv to do a computers work when you can just hook the computer up to the tv and switch out the computer every couple of years. Video hardware is much more expensive than computer hardware.
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