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- xartion, on 10/12/2007, -2/+85First commandment of Warez: Thou Shall Not Sell.
- jon419, on 10/12/2007, -28/+82
- nullmind, on 10/12/2007, -4/+29How many years do big corporations get for ripping of *billions* of dollars?
- gamer82987, on 10/12/2007, -9/+27he deserves to go to jail. making money off of pirated content just makes my blood boil.
- Perfection, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18Very True...sort of that unwritten code behind the whole scene...not that I'd have ever known or anything.
- IQ70, on 10/12/2007, -6/+20I agree he is. But then I also think people who pirate music for money are scumbags. How many agree with me? Not many it seems, I already got dugg down. :)
- bejitunksu, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13@Bigcat1021
Hmmmmm.... does $200 Billion or YOUR taxpayer dollars tickle your fancy?
http://www.newnetworks.com/scandalquotes.htm - KnightMareInc, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12While I find the argument that people who download software/movies cost these companies billions of dollars a joke, its great to see a scumbag like this get some jail time.
- Osjpr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8it's somehow easier to envision than tax evasion and corporate fraud, isn't it?
- jon419, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11This is my favorite part of the whole ordeal. His website is BuysUSA.com (with the 's' on the end of buy). The U.S. government owns the website BuyUSA.com (no 's'). Bet he was caught when some government official fat fingered their address and saw his page.
Either way, what a ***** moron. - ani-pockdotnet, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8FTA: "Ferrer also was ordered to pay more than $4.1 million (?3.2 million) in restitution to software makers Adobe Systems Inc., Autodesk, and Macromedia Inc."
- Tweekster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8well luckily for him, he will be going to a nice club fed, min security prison where rape isnt a problem.
in all reality, prison rape is a vastly overstated problem that occurs in some prisons, but certaintly is not a common occurance in most.
people think that the second you get into prison you get gangraped....those people that think that have no grasp on reality
the prison he will go to will be like summer camp for a kid. quite a bit of freedom, no danger, some restrictions... that is a lot of the prison system, it isnt all hardcore ayran nation, gang warefare crap they try to portray in movies. - Tweekster, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8In all honesty this guy sounds like an idiot,.
however, if he would have done it right. stashed the money. 6 years in prison, light sentance, low security prison im betting, factor in good behavior. etc etc etc
low security prison for probably 2 years MAX, for a cash value of 4 million or more?
I would certainly do it...if i didnt have any morals.
but cost benefit wise, 2 years of your life in club fed for 4 million dollars? why not. - KayinNasaki, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10Don't dig this guy down, he has a valid point, even if many of us don't agree with him. I won't say software piracy is 'right', but it does have it's positive aspects as well. Piracy in a sick way helps some companies and artists. It's still not right, but at the end of the way it's still a sort of... private thing.
Selling on the other hand is just completely terrible. Theoretically denying a company money(since many wouldn't by the software at the price it's offered at) isn't nearly as bad as outright making money at the companies expense.
So we're bad, but we know enough to see that this guy crossed the line. That's my thoughts, at least. - omnidatacenter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Does this mean my order isn't going through?
- otaking, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8There are bigger fish to fry no less though.
- UncommonSense, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10From software pirate to butt pirate, just like that. Ouch.
- jon419, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6im sure the government seized all his assets. I wouldn't bet he was smart enough to hide some money outside his house or bank. I bet the moron will be left with only the shirt on his back (if that).
- headzoo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Six years of your time, and six years in prison, aren't really the same thing.
- maninblac1, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10Selling free stuff is bad. Selling free stuff that isn't free is worse.
But let's keep it real, look at who he was ripping off.
Adobe, and Macromedia. (well now the same, but whatever)
Adobe anything = other than windows one of the most popular pirated software suite(s) in the world.
A real pirate has a copy or several, possibly many versions, of every major program Adobe makes, not because he'll likely ever use them, even once. But because shelling out 20 grand for half a dozen productivity suites is assinine, was this guy wrong, yeah, but i think Adobe got what was coming to them.
Got that Adobe, sell your GD products cheaper! - cyberrigger, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Copyright infringement is civil law not criminal.
I object to spending taxpayer's money prosecuting
copyright infringment as a criminal offense.
In other words your taxpayer money
is spent protecting big rich companies. - CJz44, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6The page they put over sites like BuysUSA.com couldn't get anymore ugly could it?
- irieKEN, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8That, and if you use the software for commercial gain, you should license it--providing that the price is within reason.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7The FBI really needs somebody to investigate some HTML skills.
- headzoo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Nah, 6 years in prison is no joke. This guy probably never even thought of the consequences.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7@IQ70
This guy is a scumbag. - raada, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Making money from pirate stuff is just bad.
If you download stuff for your own computer, fine. There is so much crap I wouldn't pay for.
If you download and sell it to people who obviously are interested in buying, you directly take away business from the company who makes it. Bad. - meepus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@tweekster:
You're 100% right. I have no idea why people are digging you down. I've been to prison before, and it's not nearly as bad as people say it is. There were individual shower stalls, and individual toilets (you could shower and do your private ____ in just that: private).
There were books, magazines, and a TV with cable. The prison officials brought in movies every night. There's an exercise room, a basketball court and a lot of different people to talk to, most of whom were easy-going and nice. The only complaint I have is that while the food was fine tasting, it ran right through you. I ate better in prison than I do in college though, to be honest. - Surefoot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3He was selling PhotoShop for 50 bucks.
http://web.archive.org/web/20050401093808/http://www.buysusa.com/ - irieKEN, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6@D14BL0
SW-Bell and Verizon are taken care of. However, many ISPs, including my own, still insists on charging the FUSF fees. - SteveR4376, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I'm sure he'll think about all the money he made every time he gets F'd in the A in prison.
- rubored, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Ouch...
LONG LIVE TEH PIRATEZ!
MUTANY ON THE RIAA! - kounavi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2i love this guy.
he's my hero. - zoombusa, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3so he has to pay back only 4.1 million? Sounds like he will still be rich after he gets out of jail.
I would give up 6 years of my time to become a millionaire. Seems to me the justice system is still missing the point. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4He didn't make enough to pay his fine? Pwned..
- dotnetnoob, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Not if you want your backdoor stay shuted! it's a federal prison, son. you better not drop your soap.
- Codee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Ferrer bought numerous airplanes, a fighter-jet simulator, a Lamborghini, a Hummer and other luxury vehicles with his profits.
Rot in jail, you greedy, dumb ass. - Osjpr, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5"@IQ70
This guy is a scumbag."
the people who bought it off him are completely innocent? - Tweekster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3the people that compare downloading an album and burning it for themselves and burning 10,000 copies for resale are just plain idiots.
yes, shoplifting and stealing are wrong, but for some reason the law does realize that stealing a hotwheels toy car at walmart is a bit different than ganking a porsche.
if you dont see the difference between the two (you know like $119,999.20 difference, you are an idiot) - jsaya, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3ha: "Prosecutors said they are working with the FBI to investigate the providers of fake software serial numbers on the Internet, which allowed Ferrer to sell the programs."
- Abennobashi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Piracy = Adrenaline = a high for me who can't afford drugs yet.
- akinder, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"That, and if you use the software for commercial gain, you should license it--providing that the price is within reason."
What??? That is the stupidest thing I've ever read. Who are you to decide whether you should pay for something or not, and if the price should be within reason? Have you ever been to business school? Have you ever managed the books for a successful company? ( Having google ads on your blog doesn't count ) No, you're probably basing your pricing assumptions on your high school Digg math that Making for $3 Charging at $17 == HUGE MONIES AND EVIL CORPORATION
If you didn't pay for it, don't use it, I don't care if you're a company or a person. - SCOG, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1His sentence isn't that light when you consider minors here in the UK are getting less than 2 years for murder! God bless our justice system, helps us sleep in our beds at night.........
- fergus9, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Just go browse eBay - prime location where people sell pirated softwares all time. In one case, at least, I contacted the seller and asked if the software was pirated, the seller decided to close their account completely off ebay! Next thing I know "this seller is no longer ebay member" - I would think it would be easy for anti-piracy folks to go trolling on ebay and catch those!
- amoirae, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1So many on here are so focussed on him being gangraped that I think they spank the money when watching Oz reruns on HBO.
- JimDaGeek, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"...making money off of pirated content just makes my blood boil."
Yeah, and all the mega-corps in the USA that get out of paying millions or billions in taxes every year makes my blood boil. However, we don't see the execs of Adobe, MS, HP, Walmart, etc going to jail for stealing from the people. Not paying a fair share of taxes is stealing from the common wealth. Go do some Google searches and see how much and what percentage of sales Adobe, MS, HP, etc paid in taxes last year, and the year before... Now compare that to what percentage of income the average American pays toward taxes.
I don't condone what this guy did. It is against the law. He should have all his assets taken to pay restitution and if that is not enough, take a certain percentage of the money he earns for the next X years. However as another poster pointed out, this is/should be a _civil_ issue and should not be a criminal issue. Copyright infringement should not have bigger fines and longer jail terms than many criminal offenses IMO. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1dumbass he shoulda ran when he hit a million
- jamie3033, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1all your warez are belong to Danny Ferrer
- hakluytbean, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Interesting. What surprises me most is that people can find their way around online stores and auction sites but somehow fail to pick up that if they don't want to pay the software maker (for whatever reason) they could just go fetch it from the same places these ebay sellers get their copies. So buyers are being ripped off in a couple of ways; they don't get the genuine article if that's what they were after, and if they know or suspect it's a copy it's way overpriced. That's why, to address someone's earlier point, sellers of warez deserve to be treated like the friendless scum they are.
Remember bombing a totally unauthorised auction for some open source software (pc into media centre or sthg). Good fun, so far as it goes. Trouble is you don't actually see them hit the ground, as of course basically nothing happens, the auction just ends. It's also a bit of a drag getting an account each time. You don't need to give credit card details to open a Dutch or French ebay account btw... -
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