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- waiwai, on 10/12/2007, -14/+30I utterly refuse to read HTML email. You do not need purple, weird sized fonts, etc. to get your message across. It's just a PITA and makes you look like a 12 year old girl.
- springfield, on 10/12/2007, -10/+20I really really wish HTML mail had never happened. I'm sick of getting badly formatted emails that I have to use a web browser to read. Email should basically work like usenet.
- rmassie, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15Considering that misinterpretation of short messages such as e-mail and text messages are so high, I would think you would want to use any tool available, emphasizing parts of a message in order to get the point across.
I know the full web pages as e-mail thing is annoying, but there is a good and useful side to html in mail. - konspence, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Duggmirror
http://www.duggmirror.com/links/Make_your_email_signature_stand_out./ - esteban, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Yeah, this won't work in Gmail as advertised. Gmail only allows plain text, no HTML, no CSS, just plain old text.
- merm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8What exactly is your problem with 12 year old girls?
- vanlandw, on 10/12/2007, -8/+15Not to be a pest but somebody is going to bring it up and somebody is going to be a lot meaner then I am..
dupe :-[
http://www.digg.com/apple/Create_CSS_Signatures_in_Apple_Mail - webcrumb, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9"emphasizing parts of a message in order to get the point across."
*emphasizing* parts of a _message_ in order to get the /point across/. - liquilife, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Ahh come on. You got better things to worry about then a 3kb signature right? I mean.. every email reader has the option to disallow HTML in emails right? Is that not a sufficient solution?
- david76, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11I really really wish e-mail had never happened. I'm sick of getting badly written letters that I have to use a computer to read. All communication should basically work like telegraphs.
Ah, nothing beats mono-spaced courier. - pondster, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8You may not read HTML email but a majority of the non-power users do. I send thousands of HTML emails each month. I build newletters for several of our clients. Embedding CSS in an email is great way to properly bring your message to the masses. I coded my templates to resemble the clients site, utilizing the same fonts, sizes and colors, even logo's. I also make sure each email is an extension of their site, allowing for great SEO having all that text in the email loaded on their own site.
- marnaq, on 10/12/2007, -17/+21HTML E-mail is evil.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9While html in email does have it's uses, I ultimately have to agree with springfield. E-mail should really be kept in plain and simple text, as an efficient form of information exchange.
The main priority should be readability, not eye candy. - tackle, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8HTML signatures are so 90s.
- jimmiejaz, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7This is lovely, not only do we have to put up with morons that send HTML mail, now they're using dozens(if not hundreds) of lines of code to 'be cute' with a .sig, that shouldn't be more than 4 lines of text, ever.
- MikeCampo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Only a month old and it's back on the front page...that my friend is called being a Digg whore.
- Mongoose, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Grrrr... I can't get Gmail or Thunderbird to display html or css. It just spits out the raw code instead of the signature.
- l337dexter, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4you need to save the signature in a .html file and select it in thunderbird for it to work...
- Takshaka, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2esteban says "there are no standards"; I just wanted to point out that there are.
For a basic rundown see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-rfc.html - esteban, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I have no problem with presentational email as such, I just think it should degrade gracefully and obey certain best practices and/or standards. Unfortunately this is almost impossible with the current state of presentation email (HTML email).
There are no standards, there is not really a smart way to allow for different clients, in fact not much has been written about how many email clients there are, what their popularity is and how they render HTML. It is like how the HTML web was back in the 1990s. - sethrubenstein, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Wow, haters of html mail calm down I just though it was a cool idea to use a stylesheet to do an email sig. And for those of us who use email to communicate/collaborate about projects and etc.. its nice to be able to display information in a way that is organized with tables or now div layers.
- digjedi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"I utterly refuse to read HTML email"
I work at a high tech internet company... while the half the technical folk (including me) don't use HTML emails - still the other half does and 99% of all other employees use HTML. So good luck keeping a job with that statement. - JimDigg, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5I really really wish the telegraph had never happened. I'm sick of getting letters from across the country basically instantaneously. All communication should be via horseback.
- mbierman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Is it me, or is it kind of sad that the CSS in this guy's article does't display properly? I mean if the article itself displays so poorly, I'm not likely to take the content very seriously given, that he's writing about, presentation matters.
- dixonr315, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2True, but this seems to be updated from the last time it was on the front page for GMail users, so I think that allows it a pass... This time ;-)
- lnxaddct, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2God forbid we use the internet to its full capabilites. I mean, it makes sense that we should artificially limit ourselves to just plain old black on white text, right? There is nothing wrong with using vague and possibly misinterpreted mark-up like *emphasis here* or _emphasis there_, right? I mean our monitors can only handle millions of colors, why on earth would we want to use e-mail as a collaborative multimedia tool, when we can limit it to plain old memos. HTML/CSS is fine and a good idea for e-mail, hell even scripting from trusted sources is a good idea, there is no reason to limit the already limited capabilities of e-mail simply because spammers/crackers might attempt to misuse or abuse them. Next thing you know we won't be able to create tables with pointy corners, or scissors that might break through skin.
- DarkDays, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yea I've been trying to add signatures on Gmail the first few days I signed up .. It never worked so I just gave up.
Maybe they'll allow HTML/CSS soon though. Hopefully it won't turn out like those super-glossy-like-omg-look-at-me hotmail signatures... - Dan100, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5Lucky you ;-)
- Mongoose, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4This is pretty cool. I've been looking for an interesting take on the email signature and it looks like I've found it. I just might use one with my gmail account.
- smackit, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2cant get it to work in gmail. any suggestions for a similar effect
- eskimogirl, on 02/18/2009, -0/+0It's funny how saying 'not to be a pest' is exactly that.
Does it really matter if it has appeared elsewhere? The web is all about distributed content anyway and the tutorial is written from the POV of actually doing it, and making it work. - agilligan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Nearly all mail I send is shorter than the CSS used in that article.
HTML more than doubles the size of messages, since text is duplicated across mime parts.
For those who think that's not a problem, consider systems that process a few million emails per day.
I've personally worked on systems that handle close to 2TB of mail per month, and those that use HTML email should be publicly slapped until they agree to use plain text and remove their 20KB signature. - RomieZ, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1If anyone could contribute any information on how to get this working in Gmail, it would be greatly appreciated.
- jeffness, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2i look down on anyone who sends me an email with a cutely formatted signature, mostly because i see it as an attention seeking exercise, and i hate people who seek attention.
"look at me and my cute little signature" no thanks. i don't use signatures on my business emails even because i see them as too formal and unnecessary. i prefer to keep an informal "tone of email" with me and my clients. - webcrumb, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2My sig is three characters. Don't need any more.
-- - schurkenstadt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2html email sucks donkey balls
- Leion, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3i cannot get the gmail to display correctly too
- balognytts, on 10/12/2007, -7/+6Nice, but is anybody aware of a WinDoze tutorial?
- emzi1991, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0hi this website is new to me and i was woundering if i could have some help
- eatporktoo, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3am i the only one that thinks this looks ugly as hell?
- Daniel591992, on 10/12/2007, -11/+4http://duggmirror.com
- nickganga, on 10/12/2007, -16/+9Very nice
- CaseyUCF, on 10/12/2007, -24/+9wahhhhhhh
- bitemegates, on 10/12/2007, -23/+1I absolutely positively under no circumstances read email with HTML, It is filtered to my trash. If the sender can't send it as plain text, I don't need to read it.
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