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- haooken, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18Agreed. So called 'Therapeudic' magnets (like those braclets and pads) are the biggest medical crock of ***** ever. They simply do not work. Period. The only time magnetism itself does help the medical profession is in the MRI machines, which, despite their insane pricetag, are one of, if not, the most valuable tools medical professionals have available to them. Often times expensive surgery can be avoided, or at least downgraded, because of an MRI scan. Tumors are easily identified without the use of investigative surgery. And arthritis patients can have the most beneficial therapy offered to them. Moral of the story is, mad propz to da MRI, yo.
- D4RKfantasy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Right next to the Snake Oil booths...
- theman8631, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9"The critical question is what is TMS actually doing in the brain. " --- yea... Thatd be a good thing to look into doc
- poipoipoi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8...and also erase old VHS tapes at teh same time!
- drunkenoaf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I'd have thought that MRI studies are exactly what has been done to study the dilation of the certain cerebral arteries that are dilated during a migraine attack.
So either: this is some cleverly directed magnetic field and not a general one
OR
This is yet another pseudo-science ***** story on the front page of Digg.
BUT
It's in Nature. So I'll trust it a bit more than "lightbulbs cause cancer" that was on Digg a few weeks back. - haooken, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I never said they cured anything. I know that Magnetic Resonace Imaging machines use the polar nature of water molecules, when stimulated by an intense magnetic field, to produce detectable RF energy. That RF energy is detected, and via computer processing, is used to indicate various forms of tissue, based on their water content. Yes, you are correct, they only detect, they don't treat. I'm sorry if my previous post was vague.
- theman8631, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Not to mention how sexy you look when you wear an oversized blowdryer as a hat:
http://www.nature.com/news/2006/060619/images/060619-9.jpg - ross., on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Its time for everyone to go watch season one of Penn and Teller: *****
I don't care how powerful those magnets are, the fact is 49% reacted just as well to the placebo as to the magnetic treatment. - Wickerman392, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Although its illegal, you may consider trying some marijuana. Ancedotal evidence, some limited studies, and a quick search on google show that it is highly effective against migraines. I remeber from a couple of times that I've had a headache before smoking some MJ, and within a minute of just taking a single hit, it was gone. Its better than sticking powerful magnets in/on your head...
Although these ppl would have strong reason to say Marijuana is good for everything, you may want to check out: http://www.marijuana.com/420/showthread.php?t=30675
They really should make that stuff legal. - nathan12343, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Why didn't anyone notice this after exposing migraine sufferers to the intensely powerful magnetic field felt in an MRI machine? I just can't believe that no one has been given an MRI while in the early stages of a migraine headache.
- dj_sea2005, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I wonder if Magneto ever gets migraines...
- wtfunkymonkey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5that thing is nowhere near the size of a hairdryer
- tablatronix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I think psuedoscience runs rampant, but i dont think you can put this in the same category as most magnetic therapies, braclets etc.
It is smart to so quickly dismiss it because it uses magnetism also ? - rebblescum, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Like others, I'm skeptical. If true, however, nowhere near as convenient as pills - and they don't say there's any intention for it to be a consumer device
- ArcticWolf_0, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I've got terrible migraines, if this works it would be a godsend. Seriously, after trying 4 types of pills, 3 nasal meds, and finally injections I'm ready for something simple and effective.
- firestorm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Maybe it would help... But does "..targets the brain with a powerful magnetic field..." scare the crap out of anyone else?
- Rndm_Tngnt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You... don't trust Nature?
- Xanin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I'm the same, it's a debilitating condition, more than just a 'bad headache' as some people think. Depression and migraine seem to be aided by the same kinds of drugs, so maybe this has hope too.
- xeigen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Pfft, screw magnets, i used to suffer from debilitating migraines. Well now I'm on medication for it and i haven't had a migraine for 3 years straight.
- Ir0n_mE, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2As someone who suffers from terrible migraines any new treatment is great.
- ironchief, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5I hate migraines, this would definitely help. The pills don't work very good, does any one know where to sign up?
- timdawg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I could just get a really strong magnet for a lot cheaper than $1000!
- engg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Transcranial Magnetic stimulation has been a treatment modality since the mid 80s. It definitely does something to neurons (?increase metabolism) but has yet to clearly show therapeutic benefit for anything, including depression. It is not the same as MRI, I am fuzzy on the details but someone once told me its 'completely the opposite.' This is another treatment looking for a disease. But don't write it off, once upon a time Botox fell in the same catagory.
- Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Damn, beat me to it.
- Veeoh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well hope this comes to something - Migraines suck.
- RobotDog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Fine Actual research
There is no scientific basis to conclude that small, static magnets can relieve pain or influence the course of any disease. In fact, many of today's products produce no significant magnetic field at or beneath the skin's surface.
http://www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/QA/magnet.html
Many references at the bottom. - RobotDog, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2No digg at all, This magnet junk has been around for YEARS and was busted on "Penn & Teller *****" television show on showtime http://www.sho.com/site/ptbs/home.do great show by the way.
- Kazenodeku, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1There was something like this (electronic device, likely magnetic, press to head to relieve headaches) in the news and being talked about a few years ago. I remember trying to find one (was having terrible migranes at the time), but to no avail.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2haha what *****.
nature.com + magnet cures = one exploded ***** meter - RobotDog, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Gotta double post to bring you this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7gHhCBuoFk&search=chiropractic
Magnets are no beter then placebo's In this clip one of the so called magnet doctors comes out and says at this stage he cant medically say that it does anything. They go on to do fake tests on people with a childs toy magnet and some other magnets in a mall but all the magnets had been de magnetised and everyone said they were working.
kinda sorry for my post after reading rosses but eh i brought some new info - DangerMouse9, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2here, here Ross. And while you're at it, why not watch the other seasons as well. :)
- locojones, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1No offense anyone, but I hardly consider Penn & Teller to be a credible source on anything except magic. Please find a more reliable source than a cable television show if you're going to argue the validity of test results.
- raindog469, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1To the "48% of placebo users got better too so it's *****" crowd, I would remind you that 70% of the actual magnet users got better, and drugs have certainly been approved on less of a margin than 22%. Besides, it's not like they're gonna sell it on TV with an 800 number, it sounds like a "durable medical good" that you'll have to get through a hospital or something.
- Kablakistan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think the most interesting aspect is the 48% whose migraine improved with the placebo treatment. If so, sign me up for the placebo treatment.
Does make one wonder why all the drugs don't work, if placebo treatments do... - silicon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1*****!... Penn & Tellers that is...
- saudama, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2As a person who gets migraines every once in a whilw, I would definitely love to use one of those.
- pmac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0For those of you who don't have any experience with migraines:
MYTH: A MIGRAINE IS JUST A BAD HEADACHE.
REALITY: Migraine is a disease. A headache is only a symptom.
Unlike a headache, the Migraine disease has many symptoms, including nausea, vomiting, auras (light spots), sensitivity to light and sound, numbness, difficulty in speech, and severe semihemispherical head pain. One Migraine attack alone can last for eight hours, several days, or even weeks.
Maybe if you keep drinking that ferro-fluid this might have some effect, but I doubt it. - avPaul, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Maybe this is really just a case of sly marketing. "AMAZING MAGNETS STICK TO GULLIBLE PEOPLE!" would be more accurate but that would probably hurt sales.
- mediaboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0There's something to magnets and the brain.
Tho, ***** is the best!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_helmet - Web_Weasel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1That is the question Dr. Weil asked too. Check out http://www.drweil.com/
Interesting guy and no crap. - mpeters13, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1www.alexchiu.com ftw LOL
- tigertiger, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2It's *****. Search through the archives at www.dansdata.com and read up about this and other alternative cures that do absolutely nothing.
- rockintom99, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1Uh, but the MRI isnt used to cure anything, just detect. So your post is a bit off topic.
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