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- FreddieD, on 01/31/2009, -0/+45This is the worst cloud disaster since the time Lando struck a deal with Vader.
- souldawg, on 01/30/2009, -0/+41We're a 100% cloud office so it's things like this that make me want have them rethink that strategy.
- Farker, on 01/31/2009, -0/+31What a joke, and an amazing demonstration of incompetence. Every cloud service should have a live failover for just such a scenario.
- bromac, on 01/31/2009, -1/+30Eggs, get into that basket. Yes, there's only one.
- michaelhood, on 01/31/2009, -0/+29Dugg for the patience it took for you to sit on that joke waiting for a cloud failure story.
- Lordrust, on 01/31/2009, -2/+25foxmarks ftw
- alapoet, on 01/31/2009, -1/+21Man, what a nightmare for the users! And a PR nightmare for Ma.gnolia.
- iambrucenolan, on 01/31/2009, -6/+25Cloud Computing Fail!
I don't want no GDrive :( - radu79, on 01/31/2009, -0/+15I never used that site, didn't even know it existed, but that's the main reason why I don't trust or use 'cloud computing'. I'd rather have the data on my machine, so if my Internet connection goes down, or something like this happens, I can still have access to my work.
- Bloodboiler, on 01/31/2009, -2/+16First Google labels entire internet as harmful and now another company shows that it doesn't even know how to back up the data that is essential to their business.
Cloud computing: Your data stored on moist air and out of your control. - TheDudeDean, on 09/13/2009, -1/+10As a Ma.gonlia user myself, I hope they get it sorted out and back online quickly.
- Kamino, on 01/31/2009, -0/+8All aboard the failboat!
- gasoline, on 01/31/2009, -0/+8Still, it's nice to have an off-site backup in case your home burns down or smth. At least you'll have your GTA IV savegames then. Oh, and porn bookmarks.
- Causemos, on 01/31/2009, -0/+8Maybe it was live and that was their problem. One mistyped cleanup script and poof on both the main and the mirror sites. RAID has the same issue, it protects against physical failure but if you mess up and delete a bunch of stuff you're SOL.
- BoneStamp, on 01/31/2009, -0/+8Yup, even if it's slower than the primary service... it's better than nothing and can save your ass in such scenarios.
- michaelhood, on 01/31/2009, -0/+8Up until recently no one knew what a "cloud office" was and this would just be called really, really stupid.
Just food for thought. - Farker, on 02/01/2009, -0/+6Even better, he was an early instigator of the idea of cloud computing, just so he could wait around and eventually make that joke.
- nextekcarl, on 01/31/2009, -0/+6The key is to do both. I like escalators (even if they usually shut the whole thing down when there's a problem) and power locks (at least all that I have seen) for this very reason. I dislike power windows this this same reason. Any convenience should (when possible) come with a fail over to the old, or less convenient way of doing things.
- inactive, on 01/31/2009, -0/+5WTF? I just finished reinstalling Vista, I thought I had a virus so I scanned with AVG and detected a rootkit after installing Civ4. But yeah I thought the whole "This site may damage your computer" thing was on my end. Should had checked digg first. Anyways, thanks to that I decided to scan the PC and detected the rootkit anyways so thanks Google I guess.
- Eurynom0s, on 01/31/2009, -0/+5Have they never heard of off-site backup?
Or was this some freak event where their off-site backup got hit at the same time? - zdislaw, on 01/31/2009, -0/+4More than a PR nightmare. It's probably the end of the business.
- thewoodgnome, on 01/31/2009, -0/+4If they're that stupid not to test backups and then keep a regular update off site then they don't deserve to recover. I bet it's a typical management decision to save money on things that will "never happen". Same attitude my current boss has. He states "why the fcuk do we need a business continuity plan?" . And that's a large well known public sector organisation who are cash rich. One fire though and their whole business is history. No backups, No off site, No contingency, No other locations. They are fcuked.
- estacado, on 02/01/2009, -0/+4- “According to Aveco, 20 percent of companies will suffer fire, flood, power failures, terrorism or hardware or software disaster. Of those without a Disaster Recovery Planning:
* 80 percent will fail in just over a year
* 43 percent will not even reopen
* 93 percent that experience a significant data loss are out of business within five years.
http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stori ... - lear, on 01/31/2009, -0/+3dang it.
- chops76, on 01/31/2009, -1/+4You misspelled "*****."
- xedd, on 01/31/2009, -2/+5Anyone trusting their cloud computing to some small unknown company is a bit foolish.
Trust Google? Yeah, probably has good back-up procedures. If something happens to data entrusted to them it's probably going to be due to some world-wide catastrophe.
Microsoft, maybe.
Yahoo? Uh, no.
Some small company that came out of no-where? There is no doubt: a definite NO. - digitalhippie, on 02/01/2009, -0/+3have you ever tried to buy a domain? Every name you can think of has been taken. I'm sure they would have taken "magnolia" if they could, but I'm sure they would have to pay through the nose to get it. Instead they registered "gnolia.com" and made the "ma" a c-name. I'm fairly certain there wasn't a big demand for "gnolia.com"
- rebotfc, on 01/31/2009, -1/+4to paraphrase Dvorak: This is why the cloud sucks
- Matt2k, on 01/31/2009, -0/+2How often can you really test X terrabytes of data though?
Unfortunately backup services are often opaque, storing their data in weird formats. So if something goes wrong with those, it compounds the problem
I do agree that two levels of backups are a good idea. It happens more often than you think. That data starts corrupting, and you obliviously backup the corrupted data. Then WHOOPS! It's all gone (Which is why versioned backups is so important). I had a client contact me recently with that very same problem with 1&1 UK - Five years of data gone
I keep a local backup of all servers, and an offsite backup to a storage mechanism that is a little strange. While i have never had a restore problem in the last 6 years, even that makes me a little nervous. I'd like to
check into S3 for a third backup level. I factor backup costs into all my pricing, and I make that clear up front. The second you need a restore, that extra money suddenly becomes insignificant - mehtajr, on 02/01/2009, -0/+2Or maybe they should've picked a less retarded URL. I swear, I can't imagine anyone ever saying, "Oh look at us, we're hip and we can put periods at random places in the middle of words, thus making sure people can't find the site." But apparently, it happens.
- puma, on 02/01/2009, -0/+2cloud computing is another way of saying trust your sh*t to someone else. Bottom line.
- slaybird, on 02/01/2009, -0/+2Another interesting way to increase your twitter followers.
- DeadPlasmaCell, on 01/31/2009, -0/+2This is the first I've heard of such a place.. So people stored their bookmarks there?? or is there something more to it?
- raccooncoffee, on 01/31/2009, -0/+2that is why I am glad I stopped using magnolia a few months ago and just use opera with opera sync for my bookmarks
- theutopian, on 01/31/2009, -1/+3They only had two backups for a major online service? FAIL.
- Nephersir7, on 02/01/2009, -0/+2+1 for Foxmarks
- MavRevMatt, on 01/31/2009, -0/+2The Fail Bus is faster.
http://www.failbus.com/ - crushfan, on 01/31/2009, -0/+2Who uses Magnolia while there's Delicious anyway? If you have its addon installed on Firefox, your bookmarks are also stored on harddisk..
- SEN5241, on 01/31/2009, -1/+2Why, back in my day, we didn't have none of this fancy cloud computing. We stored our data and backups on punched cards in the old outhouse out back and hoped there was never a fire caused by a methane buildup, sparked by some yahoo lighting a match while back there looking for last year's tax-return!
And we liked it! - ernieoporto, on 02/01/2009, -0/+1This is why the cloud is not the only component to storage solutions. SYNCING to the cloud will also keep the data local so it's safe in the event one of the two (cloud or local) disappears. A double-failure like this is hard to insure against, but syncing my bookmarks to del.icio.us keeps me safe against the day my hard drive lets the magic smoke out.
- Auraness, on 01/31/2009, -2/+3Coincidence? Or someone slacked off big time?
- billhanifin, on 02/01/2009, -0/+1Just when you want to go all virtual, reality sets in. Good to do the due diligence on anyone you depend on for business, whether on main street or Web 2.0
- jacked, on 02/01/2009, -0/+1Probably because magnolia.com was taken (by Exxon Mobil, wtf?!?), so they went with gnolia.com, and created a "ma" subdomain, giving them ma.gnolia.com.
Just my guess.
Edit: yeah, what the hippie said ;) - McNash, on 01/31/2009, -1/+2I never understood the point of magnolia anyways.
- stealthspc, on 02/01/2009, -1/+2ma.gnolia.com
Read the article next time. - ohuf, on 02/02/2009, -0/+1THANKS.
A LOT.
This reminded me of taking a backup of my del.icio.us bookmarks!
NOW!
Thanks, again!
:-) - geekyghost, on 02/01/2009, -0/+1I've had many hard drives crash in my lifetime. I prefer to have the data in both locations. But having it in the cloud is very handy for those of us that use multiple computers and the occasional non computer or need more than one person to have access to the same file at the same time.
- drewniverse, on 02/02/2009, -0/+1Does the internet really need a bookmarking website?
I mean why not, we have goatse. - stealthspc, on 02/01/2009, -1/+2It's pretty damn hard to find a domain name now days even if you are creative.
Obviously, you've never actually tried to buy a domain name. - Farker, on 02/01/2009, -0/+1I have a number of domains for various online projects. The trick is to use a service like domaintools.com and a thesaurus, and brainstorm ideas and various plays-on-words. You'd be surprised at some of the good names still available if you are willing to move beyond common words. I'm not saying its easy, and sometimes you have to compromise, but there are payoffs if you are willing to put some effort into it. And you get better with practice.
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