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- DarkerMaster, on 03/21/2008, -2/+88No its not...Filtering things aka. censorship stifles creativity, really all the MPAA is doing is shooting themselves in the foot.
ohh and ***** THE MPAA. - davidsmero, on 03/21/2008, -0/+51Are we in China? Just chop off my balls while you are at it.
- BigManOnCampus, on 03/21/2008, -0/+44Oh Yeah, go MPAA, because Young people *NEVER* go out to the movies, they only stay home and download to see them. They must be tasteless thieves who are only out to never support your industry and steal what they can. Morons.
- Harboggles, on 03/21/2008, -4/+37Maybe if they spent more time investing in college students they would have more money to spend on their ridiculously priced CDs.
I buy my music on Itunes. Because my grandmother is so scared for my well being. She gave me her credit card because she is so afraid of my being sued. The odds of my being sued are literally 1 in a million. I hate supporting the industry. But I love my grandmother.
This is the extent of the fear caused by companies by the MPAA and the RIAA.
I know it's already been said by Darker Master. But ***** the MPAA and ***** the RIAA. - buba69, on 03/21/2008, -1/+32Any kind of interference in the transmission of IP is in nobody's best interest.
- RossPelton, on 03/21/2008, -2/+28Elect me president, and all MPAA lobiest will be declared enemy combatants.
- diggstown, on 03/21/2008, -1/+23Diggers to Colleges: Filtering out the MPAA (and RIAA) is in everyones best interest.
- smacksaw, on 03/21/2008, -0/+18Because those technological mavens at the MPAA (and RIAA) know what's best for those backwards non-innovators of cutting-edge knowledge at universities. Oh thank you benevolent Hollywood mobsters! You have shown us the way! How could a university system, some of whose members are hundreds of years old have more collective knowledge than the all-knowing and benevolent RIAA and MPAA?
- alex7575, on 03/21/2008, -0/+17Ohhh, if she saw me spell "probably" like that... another beating...
- alex7575, on 03/21/2008, -0/+17I wish my nana was as nice as yours, she still beats me with a stick when I disagree with her...
- iticu, on 03/21/2008, -1/+16Seriously, MPAA; just go to hell.
You've already lost. - serif69, on 03/21/2008, -1/+16This is exactly what's wrong with our government. The MPAA has nothing to do with the educational system. There is no reason whatsoever to allow them to lobby to try to aversely affect the lives of students. Get rid of these ***** lobbies. I'm sick of hearing about some meddling briber sticking his nose where it doesn't belong trying to convince the government to legislate against common sense and the will of the people. ***** lobbies.
- inactive, on 03/21/2008, -0/+13Mine beats me on sight.
- insanebrain, on 03/21/2008, -0/+9ok.
- sljepi, on 03/21/2008, -0/+9When will RIAA run out of money? If the music industry is failing, so should companies such as RIAA who represent it.
The other day i got an email from my school's student government stating that my school is offering "FREE and LEGAL" music via ruckus.com. I checked out the service and it is a joke - i get to download millions of songs but I have to listen to them on my PC and they are all streamed. Its useless. But, this proves that schools are making room for RIAA demands.
I found this very scary considering how much influence this bastards have. - Travelsonic, on 03/21/2008, -2/+11Once again missing the point.
I think the idea is that filtering by nature blocks out certain content, which inherently will block legitimate stuff.
Also: Please stop with the guilty until proven innocent mindset. It doesn't work. - MioTheGreat, on 03/21/2008, -0/+9If filtering is in colleges' best interests, then they'll do it without anyone telling them to (Hint: It's not, so they won't). No need for Congress to tell them to.
- Drgn547, on 03/21/2008, -1/+10Can't the colleges decide what's in their own best interest? I was the network admin of the student network at college - we handled file sharing just fine.
- Pulch, on 03/21/2008, -1/+10I do that all the freaking time. Most movies I download I don't even finish watching. If I don't download, I would never watch them in the first place unless somebody else bought them and showed them to me. I have a huge DVD collection, it wouldn't be that way without downloads.
- travistubbs, on 03/21/2008, -1/+9I would like to know how an organization that has nothing to do with higher education (or any education, for that matter) would know what's best for the students of higher education.
- doxidon, on 03/21/2008, -3/+11Sooner or later these crackers are going to realize that it's better to join the crowd instead of constantly trying to cheat the system.
I've read about a torrent site that's started blocking certain ISP's: http://digg.com/tech_news/Torrent_Site_Blocks_Vers ...
The biggest problem is companies that are constantly trying to submit fake content to sites.
Dear Lord who art watching uppon these sinners on Earth
Thy wisdom is unlimited and thy power is great
Smite these evil doers like thy has smithed the people of Noah
Give strength to our ISP's so they may grow backbone
For surely You are almighty
And curse the people of the MPAA like thy have cursed the Farao of Egypt
For surely thy power is great, Your will be done
And those that said there is no God, he said:
Tell them : "For I am god, I give it and I take it"
And they said: what did you take and what did you give?
For them, the return of The Axxo is prove enough
Amen - Travelsonic, on 03/21/2008, -0/+7Filtering hurts everybody. Filtering affects the free flow of legitimate information. How the hell can you not see that?
- cjschmidt, on 03/21/2008, -1/+8If they insist on continuing a outdated business model, how about this:
College students don't have much money. You produce overpriced, sound-a-like, crap music. They spend their small amount of money on games, and download music now and then.
When these people get older and have jobs, they remember music as something they didn't need or something that got them into trouble. Either way, the companies that produce it obviously hate them.
Why don't they take a page from Microsoft and Adobe. Sell CDs to students for $2. You're still covering your production costs, establishing a habit of physical music purchases, and NOT PISSING OFF YOUR CUSTOMERS. When they get a job, maybe they'll buy some of your crappy music at full price. - tehbeermang, on 03/21/2008, -0/+6The MPAA needs to shut down the internet. Then people will flock back to the movie houses.
- inactive, on 03/21/2008, -0/+6One difference would be at work they are paying me. At college the student is paying them.
- texnofobix, on 03/21/2008, -0/+5He said to pay enough to cover the cost. Not steal ... You might want to work on your comprehension skills!
- PhantomRogue, on 03/21/2008, -0/+5We are entitled to not pay 20 bucks for ***** quality CD's that cost 2 cents to make. And the ARTIST who we support gets like .05 cents per copy.
I download music, and then go to the Concerts. Where I support the Artist, not the outdated and ***** business model that they think works. - inactive, on 03/21/2008, -0/+5This is getting out of control.
- Travelsonic, on 03/21/2008, -0/+5There is a difference between stopping copyright infringement and being an ineffective pain in the ass.
- Professr, on 03/21/2008, -0/+5To burn them down?
- designerutah, on 03/21/2008, -1/+6You do realize that it's legal today for teacher's (and even students) to copy part of a copyrighted work for use in educational purposes without seeking prior permission from the copyright holder? It's limited to how much content they can copy or use, but it IS legal. And what the MPAA is asking for is to block either a technology (P2P file sharing), or to block certain sites. There are problems with both approaches. Blocking the technology means that it also cannot be used for any of the many legal things it is used for in today's colleges, including lesson distribution, etc. Problem with blocking site is you then stop people from using downloads for legitimate purposes, such as research (can't for example do a research project in violence in film unless you can watch films, or look at number of violently themed films), educations purposes (how can a student use a clip from a filim if they can't access the film), etc.
Bottom line here, blocking P2P is a way to help a corporation ENFORCE it's copyright, and as fas as I can tell, that's not the purpose of the College. If they choose to block this technology to limit their use of bandwidth, let them. It's their choice, and their expense. But don't let the MPAA make regulations where our Colleges become enforcers of coyright infrignement. And it is infringement. Not piracy. Piracy is a much uglier thing. Infringement is the proper title. - ArchangelZLT, on 03/21/2008, -0/+4...And America is proud of its freedom.
It's organizations like the MPAA that spoiled the values of America. - accelleron, on 03/21/2008, -0/+4Filtering is in a college's best interests the same way that paying a mafioso is in a small business owner's best interests - not at all. I think it's about time we have a probe into the RIAA's tactics, with a round of lengthy prison sentences following closely.
- bbqsalad, on 03/21/2008, -0/+4I have not gone to the movies or paid for a movie in AGES.. same with music.. I am done with it.
- Soofi, on 03/21/2008, -0/+4This analogy doesn't work because a TV is a physical item that can only be in the possession of one party at a time, whereas digital downloads can be cloned and replicated without causing the original party to lose their copy.
Take this scenario for example; I have a curiosity in 3-D modelling, CGI, art and similar computer design interests, and I hear about these program called 3DS Max and Maya which are immensely powerful and complex software programs that let you create stuff. However, these software licenses cost several thousand dollars.. and these programs are aimed at professional media, game and tv studios, and there is simply no way I would be forking over that type of cash (which I don't have anyway) for a curiosity in how these programs work and to try them out. If I couldn't download these programs over the internet for free, I would simply have never used them, period.
Now consider this; because of file sharing, I manage to get a free copy of these programs, and I take to it like duck on water, and before long I am creating some impressive stuff. Who knows, maybe one day I turn professional and start a commercial venture in this industry.. and at that point, I would be in a position to pay for it, and could justify it as a business expense. But, if I never have the opportunity and freedom to experiment then we are simply closing all the doors on day one and preventing any potential to become fruitful.
Actually, I can attest to this scenario with the software 'Adobe Photoshop', an excellent piece of software that costs around $600.. and although I got a free copy over p2p networks as a kid, since I have learnt how to use it, I am now developing a website project in which I utilized the software and because I anticipate making a profit I feel morally obliged to support the company and therefore I intend to buy a license.
I firmly believe in the principle 'cause no loss or harm to anyone', and I think file sharing to some extent is okay, but at the same time, we also need to do more to support the original creators of the works. - Ratteler, on 03/21/2008, -3/+7First of all, because it denies them their Constitutional right to their property, in of all places, an educational environment. Copyright was ALWAYS exempt for educational use
Secondly, because it is systematic censorship, and not individually judged on a per case basis, it can censor all forms of legal free speech and internet traffic because it "looks like" illegal traffic.
It's like banning all cars from the highway because some people use them to run illegal drugs. - jtwyrrpirate, on 03/21/2008, -0/+4And they cause problems for legit network usage. I work at a student radio station, and the university's new automatic file sharing detection software "quarantines" our laptops when we upload our audio content to our server via sftp, for attempting to use "file sharing software like limewire or bittorrent." Big headaches and lots of angry calls to academic computing ensue.
- Portfolioso, on 03/21/2008, -0/+4My school also filters out all P2P traffic and reads packet headers which crush .torrent files from even opening. Even if they're perfectly legal. I can't even connect to IRC because the traffic gets crushed.
It is so unfair. This is America, where is my freedom. It's not like I'm behind the Great Firewall of China or anything. - n00854180t, on 03/21/2008, -0/+4He can't see that because he's an ignorant trolling tool.
- Equinox1, on 03/21/2008, -2/+6I will not use the traditional "F....MPAA" comment, but sigh once again.
- mCanada, on 03/21/2008, -1/+5vote cast, plz snd to gtmo
- arkmtech, on 03/21/2008, -0/+3No they don't - They simply are blind to their own contribution toward perpetuating a vicious cycle.
Distributing pirated films via the Internet didn't start innocently by any stretch of the imagination, but those who began in doing so probably never imagined it would become so wide-spread. No less, it has snowballed in the past 8 years, during which time the MPAA has only lashed out hostilely.
As a result, dissent toward the MPAA has spread like wildfire, and downloading has taken on something of a boycott "mob mentality," with hundreds upon thousands of people turning to freebie Internet downloads, rather than paying into an industry which has taken to wantonly suing anyone their P2P-spies point a finger at for ungodly amounts of money, and also blatantly insulting those who DO pay to see their movies in theaters with insinuations that they're aspiring cyber-criminals.
Simply put, a few people smacked the movie industry in the face, in response the movie industry got up and bitch-slapped them back, and years later everyone's lining up for their turn to land a blow - and so long as the MPAA continues to hit back, the cycle continues.
Maybe it's just because people don't like them, maybe it's because some people are just looking to pick a fight, but I dare to think that the majority of people carry some sense of morality & ethics, and if they truly felt the MPAA was serving them, they would move to support it.
And hey, maybe I'm way out in left field on this one... - blacklilyninja, on 03/21/2008, -0/+3riaa/mpaa will become illegal organizations in 2 years or less i predict.
- Lazydriver, on 03/21/2008, -0/+3Uhm, no, that band must've been *****.
People WILL support their likeable movies, bands, etc.... What will happen though is that these said bands and moviemakers will do these things not for a profit, but for the hell of it, and if they get popular and make money, they won't have to deal with ***** contracts: they'll handle it all by themselves.
As for movies and videogames, they too can be torrented, but as long as people realize that it takes a ***** of people to make those, they'll buy em instead of torrenting.
You can't force morality down people's throats, that's up to them to decide, and frankly, your industry is a dinosaur being hit by an asteroid. Adapt or die: and stop being jackasses while you're at it. - accelleron, on 03/21/2008, -0/+3Look at the other side of the coin: Filtering bandwidth leads to increased overhead for IT/tech support (due to certain programs not getting through, and students/staff getting help from tech support.) It also may have an effect on admissions, because some people would not go to a school because of the filtering, either for moral or practical reasons. Finally, the school may both get a bad reputation for bending over to the RIAA, and be viewed as an easier target by the MPAA and other groups.
Long story short, don't be so sure that the net effect of this will be positive, even in monetary terms. - DCstewieG, on 03/21/2008, -0/+3Don't worry, the third time's the charm.
- sljepi, on 03/21/2008, -0/+3Why limit bandwidth - this is university/college, not a primary school. Students pay for it.
- PhantomRogue, on 03/21/2008, -0/+3The Artist is coerced into signing the contract, promised millions, but ends up PAYING (hi im a *****) 3 cents per CD, paying for their own music videos and paying for concert bookings. Promised millions, but end up with a few thousand after all the fee's and other costs involved.
- DCstewieG, on 03/21/2008, -0/+3That's fine for you. They can leave my balls the ***** alone.
- LeeSoong, on 03/21/2008, -0/+3University Resources and Federal Student Funding are not responsible for policing Alaskan Fishing Licenses, they have nothing at all to do with that.
Likewise, educational systems have no responsibility for spending their resources, time, money, and people on copyright protection of third parties.
MPAA has no business shifting it's costs onto the Federal government, Financial Institutions, or Universities.
MPAA should stop trying to force other people to pay their expenses. -
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