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- Khast, on 08/04/2008, -1/+77Translation : We don't want you to record anything ever. What you watch is property of the MPAA, and we do not authorize illicit copies. Fair use, means we own it, you don't...so don't think of using our content in any way we don't authorize...see above. You are our bitches, hand over your money to us. We are still waiting for time based self destruct DVDs that you can "rent" (Oh Divx was so great...1 day rental on a disc....too bad Circuit City had to screw up on that one....) Oh, and in case we forgot to mention it, we don't want you copying any media, it belongs to us. (Even content you create should belong to us....ah well, there's another FCC request to file.)
- Branchex, on 08/04/2008, -2/+54"The fact that almost no movies are made available to MVPDs pre-DVD release is clear and convincing evidence that the analog hole is an impediment to the early window release of high-value content," the MPAA concludes."
Meaning:
We don't go there because we can't control consumer devices therefore that shows that we need to control consumer devices for us to go there.
Can't argue with that logic. - blacklilyninja, on 08/04/2008, -2/+42i think these organizations should be outlawed.
MPAA is looking to control all media and decide what art and entertainment should be.
RIAA same *****... same pile
THESE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE with the same ***** agenda.
...to make everything beige and costly - Jo9100, on 08/04/2008, -4/+41Alright then, we'll keep you at +1.
- twiztidsinz, on 08/04/2008, -4/+36@heliox: he said dugg/buried as in it could go either way...
I say try to keep him at 0.. - inactive, on 08/04/2008, -2/+34The mpaa seems like a weird relic from the 30's like the comics code
- centerblack, on 08/04/2008, -1/+31Haven't we already been through this for the nth time? There will be a flaw in the system, it will be exploited, end of story.
These people should stop wasting so much time and money on copy-protection schemes that ultimately only irritate paying customers and do so very little to hinder the rest of the crowd. - WiLLGT09, on 08/04/2008, -1/+28I mean seriously, it's like they're asking us to break the rules by pissing us off.
- darkciti2, on 08/04/2008, -8/+31Here is my FREE suggestion summary for MPAA's business model:
I paid $30 to see The Dark Knight at IMAX. I sat pretty close to the screen. I thought it would suck being that close, but it absolutely rocked and it reminded of what movie-going should be like. I'll happily pay that again for movies that good and with that vantage point (total immersion).
I didn't hear kids talking, food wrappers crackling, etc. because it was a good movie and I was sitting close enough to hear Rachel fart at the party.
Deliver more "experiences / immersion" and you'll make money just as any valid business does.
Here's why the MPAA and Movie Theater's are across the country are failing: You got rid of the ushers. Remember those guys? The ones with the flashlights that told you to shut the ***** up, or you'd be kicked out of the movie? The bouncers of the theater?
Here's a winning MPAA business model:
-Fewer screens, but more MASSIVE ones (like IMAX)
-built in high-voltage/low-current zappers that can be triggered by Ushers/staff (sans flashlights)
-an introductory 'zap' as a Contractual agreement that you [the attendee] will stay as quiet as possible during the film
-serve candy in ultra-thin eurethane plastic baggies, instead of 8mil government helicopter protective grade Twizzler wrappers
-threaten to pause the movie if more than 2% of people break the rules: if more than 1 of out 50 people so much as ***** cough too many times, the movies stops until they are escorted out. In the short term, you'll lose money, but in the long term, the movie theater will be quieter than a funeral (albeit with some screen dialog).
So, there ya go.
The moment you started caring more about profits than your business model, you failed and the people had to find more comfortable ways to enjoy your multi-mega-million dollar productions. Hence, the piracy, etc.
Piracy will always happen, but if you can provide a reasonable movie going experience for a reasonable price, people will buy it (and you'll make money legally).
The answer to your profit woes lies within your business model (hint: distribution), not in extortion of people seeking a "good" movie going experience (without screaming kids, talkers, etc). - JoshReflek, on 08/04/2008, -1/+23http://thepiratebay.org/
A vote they can't ignore - pintomp3, on 08/04/2008, -1/+22yeah, the free market rulez!! oh wait.. it's not a free market when a cartel of 5 companies owns 95% of the content and has payola deals with the cartel of 6 companies that own 95% of all broadcast media.
- EXTER, on 08/04/2008, -1/+22The BPI Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The RIAA Soundexchange Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The IFPI Are: The same anti consumer lot as listed above!
The MPAA Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, DISNEY, PARAMOUNT, FOX. - twiztidsinz, on 08/04/2008, -0/+20Summary:
MPAA: "MINE!" - hollyminkowski, on 08/04/2008, -1/+20They are stupid.
Take a 42" monitor and point a high definition digital camcorder at it and if you take great care to set up everything properly you will get a really good copy. A far better copy than the Cam versions of films that are being downloaded.
Won't be as good as a copy recorded from the old fashioned analog outputs, but close, and good enough for lots of people. - wexmajor, on 08/04/2008, -1/+19How are we supposed to vote with our wallets when EVERYONE IS ***** US OVER?
- JoshReflek, on 08/04/2008, -1/+18The MPAA / RIAA's attitude about property and rights, is pompus *****.
If i pay to watch a movie in a theatre or get bombarded with commercial breaks in the privacy of my home, the MPAA gives up the right to continue telling me what i can do with the content at that point, since ive already paid my dues in relation to it.
Saying that i can buy a movie but only watch it in my own home and only with 5 or less family members and cant loan it out to friends is stupid...IVE ALREADY PAID FOR IT and that makes it mine 100%.
They can put any variation of an End User License Agreement and i wont care.
Once ive paid I WILL MAKE AS MANY COPIES AS I WANT, its my right as a paying customer.
On the other hand.....if their content is totally free to own and watch, has no commercial interruptions, then i can see them saying "this is still our content" since it is given with no requirements.
It is unreasonable to expect the consumer to give a ***** about hoops to jump through after you have paid for the damn thing ^_^ - twiztidsinz, on 08/04/2008, -2/+19They can and DO offer their product the way they want.
They just (shouldn't) have any say in how we use the media they offer.
It would be like the RIAA saying you can only listen to CDs with headphones
Or Ford saying you can only drive your car/truck on local, non-interstate roads. - CeeJayDK, on 08/04/2008, -1/+15Time based self destruct DVDs already exists.
I've seen some on "sale" at the local supermarket.
They are sealed from air and once you break the sealing the dics data layer starts to slowly degrade , giving you 24 hours or so , to copy the disc to your harddrive and make as many long lasting copies as you need. - hollyminkowski, on 08/04/2008, -2/+15Out of curiosity I just used my little Canon Digital Elf pocket sized still cam in 640x480x30fps video mode to shoot a short clip of the 19" LCD tv here. The clip looks really good! If you set up a better digital cam on a tripod and darkened the room, the results when shooting a large hi-def screen would be fantastic.
No way that locking down the analog outputs will stop high quality copies from being made. - CanIGetAWitness, on 08/04/2008, -0/+12Hey MPAA, I've already given up TV, you are working hard to be next.
- ramsinks.com, on 08/04/2008, -0/+11They will never stop us.
ever. - prometheanspark, on 08/04/2008, -2/+12Unfortunately, it only takes 1 copy on bit-torrent to blow a pre-release movie - and I've never seen a popular movie that wasn't on bit-torrent within a day or two of the big screen. They've got a lot of catching up to do. Some engineer from Sony or Toshiba that worked on HDTVs will know a way to hack the hardware and blow the lid off the whole thing. It only takes one, and out of 5 billion people, that's a lot of one's to crack down on. Nothing short of a police state will do the job, and it's just not worth it to sustain a couple entertainment industries.
Face it, folks that won't pay to see the movie - won't pay to see the movie! They're not customers. They're the fat tail of the market where the price is near zero (bandwidth ain't free for most and you view ads in getting content). I think in the future legit content will come in tiers of quality, with a mediocre 'you-tube' level with ads around it for free. - tavisjohn, on 08/04/2008, -1/+11More like they should not have any say on how I use my hardware!
- pigfister, on 08/04/2008, -3/+12lets not for get who is actually behind the MPAA - RIAA these are the companies that need to be targeted and boycotted into changing their ways.
Name and shame the companies as all the **AA trade group name is for is to protect the ***** capitalist corporate globalist wankers from bad press.
The BPI Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The RIAA Soundexchange Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The IFPI Are: The same anti consumer lot as listed above!
The MPAA Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, DISNEY, PARAMOUNT, FOX. - pigfister, on 08/04/2008, -0/+9look here:
http://www.riaaradar.com/
http://www.boycott-riaa.com/
http://www.stealthisfilm.com/Part2/ - cliffotn, on 08/04/2008, -0/+9Real life example; my cable company blocks digital audio output if you use the digital (hdmi) output.
So , if you want to use your nice 5.1 home theater system with your HDTV, you are basically forced to skip the better digital video signal and use component cables. Use both HDMI and digital out, and the box automatically turns off dolby digital and sends the analog, stereo with Dolpy Pro Logic track. - zmikeyz, on 08/04/2008, -3/+11With that... they will probably keep track of what we watch and preclude our movies with 'tailored' advertising?!?...
- Pake, on 08/04/2008, -0/+8http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLcS1R5I_Og
- Merendino, on 08/04/2008, -0/+8Well said.
- speakafreaka, on 08/04/2008, -0/+7Its like the RIAA saying you can only listen to music you purchase from itunes on one ipod
oh wait.. - Fhwqhgads, on 08/04/2008, -0/+7Hell ***** yeah!
Same with me. - locojones, on 08/04/2008, -4/+11Who the ***** is digging this guy up? The MPAA doesn't own or operate any movie theaters. God, this whole place is turning into an idiocracy.
- scyon, on 08/04/2008, -0/+7Piracy *is* voting with your dollars.
- speakafreaka, on 08/04/2008, -1/+8I would give the mpaa ten dollars if i could pick how they spend it, since i cant control that they can DIAF
- Kershalt, on 08/04/2008, -2/+8uhm apparently there stupid enough to think this matters.... all there going to do with this little stunt is cause more people to start downloading movies on the internet and not getting paid for it at all. HELLO MOVIE COMPANIES I AM A CONSUMER WHO DOWNLOADS BECAUSE YOUR OVERPRICED PIECES OF ***** ARENT WORTH MY HARD EARNED CASH STOP PAYING YOUR PRISSY ASS ACTORS SO MUCH FOR THERE DAMN MOVIES AND MAKE SOMETHING WORTH SEEING FOR UNDER 5BUCKS IN THE THEATRE. I loved the dark night i have seen it 2 times allready that is $18 spent for 5 hours of enjoyment money well spent. i saw Xfiles that was $9 for 2 hours of wasted time in which i did not see a single alien.... i could have bought a dime bag for a dollar more and had twice the enjoyment in the same amount of time just sitting on my couch watching a rerun of xfiles in which i do see an alien...
- inactive, on 08/04/2008, -1/+7Awesome! My porn will be preceded with 30 to 1 minute long porn advertisements. It's like an appetiser, but it's made out of porn.
/sarcasm - MxM111, on 08/04/2008, -0/+6What prevents a customer to just film what he sees on his 1080p LCD? If the movie is transmitted in 1080i, then I bet the recording will be better than majority of torrents out there.
Analog hole, my ass! - pigfister, on 08/04/2008, -1/+7They are indeed.
The BPI Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The RIAA Soundexchange Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The IFPI Are: The same anti consumer lot as listed above!
The MPAA Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, DISNEY, PARAMOUNT, FOX. - toejamz, on 08/04/2008, -4/+10Jesus, am I glad you don't run the **AA. I mean, WTF? Electric tasers built into each chair? Stopping the movie if I wisper to my kid to STFU? Ultra-thin plastic baggies on candy which break easy and result in stale candy?
Your advice is free, but there are plenty of things that are "free" but too expensive to use... your advice is clearly on this list! - darkciti2, on 08/04/2008, -2/+7Fair enough. How about a 10,000 candle-watt bulb pointed at every seat that only gets triggered when that seat exceeds a certain noise threshold?
If your kid doesn't know to STFU before you bring him into the theater, who is at fault, you or the kid?
Here's a compromise. The theater will just connect your kid to the zapper, and it will average the sound level between both of your seats. Is that enough incentive to make sure that at least one of you has some self-discipline?
Better yet, they could use seat-specific high-power bulbs that only block your seat from being able to see the movie. That way, instead of having ushers, the could have a single "spotlight engineer" that can block YOU from seeing the movie while everyone else continues to enjoy it.
When your kid SsTFU, you can see the screen again (after the purple/green/fuzzy flash thing fades away).
How's that for a more reasonable incentive for you to keep your kid quiet? Aside from the normal courtesy that MOST people instill in their young children (respect others, be courteous, etc).
[teenagers get a pass - but it's a brief one, when you turn 20, it's time to start acting accordingly] - LANjackal, on 08/04/2008, -0/+5I hardly watch movies as is. Really. Not even pirated ones. Still, the MPAA's views are generally poor.
- tas08, on 08/04/2008, -1/+6Man that logic seems like me decided something like I want to drive my neighbor's sports car. So I say that the fact I've never asked him if I can drive his car is proof of the fact that he'd yell at me for it and so I really should be allowed my own key so I don't have to go through him.
Am I right? So if the MPAA gets its way will I get to use that argument to go around demanding the rights to control all sorts of things that aren't mine? - mgxplyr, on 08/04/2008, -3/+8http://obli.net/media/1/20050818-how-about-a-nice- ...
- corvairkid, on 08/04/2008, -1/+5Right, because the WHOLE DAMN MOVIE wasn't already filled with not-so-subtle ads and product placements.
- Atomic1fire, on 08/04/2008, -0/+4wanna make movie experiences pleasurable...
Tell your kids to shutup and watch a movie
in movie theators I have been in.. I have never had a bad experience because the kids in the seats ahead of me or behind usually are not acting up and they are watching the movie.
do the same for their family's
keep your cellphones off and if you need to take a call do it outside the movie, you came to watch the movie, not take a phone call.
Never really had a bad experience with cellphone users but its common courtecy to treat others like you want to be treated,
they shouldnt have to blind you or shock you so that you respect people and watch what you payed for...
your in a room being entertained by something you payed for, but so did other people so be courteous to them as well otherwise your movie experience might go as bad as theirs - pigfister, on 08/04/2008, -1/+5lets not for get who is actually behind the MPAA - RIAA these are the companies that need to be targeted and boycotted into changing their ways.
Name and shame the companies as all the **AA trade group name is for is to protect the ***** capitalist corporate globalist wankers from bad press.
The BPI Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The RIAA Soundexchange Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The IFPI Are: The same anti consumer lot as listed above!
The MPAA Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, DISNEY, PARAMOUNT, FOX. - Fhwqhgads, on 08/04/2008, -0/+4If the pirates can have it out a couple days after it hits the big screen, there's no reason the MPAA can't as well. They take far too ***** long to release these things. That's part of the problem as I see it.
- Atomic1fire, on 08/04/2008, -0/+3you tend to forget parts of a film anyway
no one except for those people will photographic memory will be able to remember a movie fully
sure they might be able to remember a few scenes but everyone tends to forget something about the movie - tas08, on 08/04/2008, -2/+5You know, honestly I was pretty much following them until the claim of "untold damage to the DVD....markets". And it was downhill from there.
- Atomic1fire, on 08/04/2008, -1/+3thats a lot of asterisk's
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