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MPAA Demands $15 Million from The Pirate Bay
torrentfreak.com — The MPA(A) has announced that it demands $15.4 million from the Pirate Bay in the upcoming court case, to cover the damages they suffered from 3 movies and 13 TV-episodes that were made available via the popular BitTorrent tracker.
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- v666, on 05/08/2008, -4/+19515 million ? the MPAA won't get a nickel
- Resolution, on 05/08/2008, -20/+2Tell that to TorrentSpy, and they never hosted the files...
- punkcat, on 05/08/2008, -0/+21do you really think they got a nickel out of torrent spy?
suing for and actually getting are two different things. - pigfister, on 05/09/2008, -0/+7@ Resolution torrentspy were in the US where as the pirate bay is not, and btw american law is not global no matter how much they think it is!
Name, shame and boycott anti consumer ppl
The BPI Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The RIAA Soundexchange Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The IFPI Are: The same anti consumer lot as listed above!
The MPAA Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, DISNEY, PARAMOUNT, FOX.
- punkcat, on 05/08/2008, -0/+21do you really think they got a nickel out of torrent spy?
- rasmasyean, on 05/08/2008, -0/+17The ironic thing is that this is "free advertising" toward people who's "curiosity" will be sparked by this article.
- diggerachi, on 05/08/2008, -0/+9I don't even know why they bother suing. They made a 4% increase at the box office last year in sales. It's been between 8 and 10 billion dollars over the last 10 years profit wise.
- willk281, on 05/08/2008, -3/+13Well if the studios started consistently making smart, quality movies with real stories, rather than ***** out cheesy, CGI-loaded, celebrity-laced, emotionless movie-montages, then maybe we would respect the industry enough to start buying their product. I mean, American Gangster would have been great had they not casted Cuba, T.I., Common and every other black actor with a bus pass. War of the Worlds would have been awesome if it had a plot. Transformers would have been legendary had they not tried to shamelessly appeal to every ***** demographic on the planet. I haven't seen Iron Man yet, but after the "shock-and-awe" effect you get from action movies wears off, I hope it won't just be another Jumper (RDJ, you're by boy, don't let me down). But first.... *google search: iron man torrent*
- Iztikeit, on 05/10/2008, -0/+0That's doesn't justify anything. Hollywood produces enough good movies to justify its existence.
- Resolution, on 05/08/2008, -20/+2Tell that to TorrentSpy, and they never hosted the files...
- torrentfreak, on 05/08/2008, -1/+94It's 4 movies and 13 TV-episodes, my bad...
- victorycig, on 05/08/2008, -0/+165*Phew* It's a good thing they haven't found all those other movies on there yet!
- Daniel591992, on 05/08/2008, -0/+52Next Story:
BREAKING: MPAA DEMANDS $20 BILLION FROM THE PIRATE BAY!- Renegade89, on 05/08/2008, -1/+2Probably more id say leaning towards a ban on the internets.
- Chris4, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1Like that will last.
- redwallhp, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1L.O.L.
You've just won the Digger of the Week award.
- Daniel591992, on 05/08/2008, -0/+52Next Story:
- victorycig, on 05/08/2008, -0/+165*Phew* It's a good thing they haven't found all those other movies on there yet!
- SpillReviews, on 05/08/2008, -2/+64what is with all the Torrent sites being sued lately?
- chdodd2012, on 05/08/2008, -50/+7well, maybe because they allow for copyright infringement, a federal offense...
- BlakeEM, on 05/08/2008, -2/+51Sure but The Pirate Bay isn't in the US.
- fkr3, on 05/08/2008, -23/+6You can be sued in lots of countries...
Torrent sites are made to cash in on the popularity of piracy. Most content owners aren't keen on that concept.- ITFeed, on 05/09/2008, -1/+5its not about the popularity of piracy. It is the fact that RIAA and MPAA are out there to screw the consumers and screw the artists. Eventually the consumers just too fed up with the greedy fat corporates giants and find a more cost efficient alternatives.
Piracy in the context of digital media is to sell unauthorized copies of the article(software,video,music,images,code). In this case MPAA and RIAA is insisting that sharing or downloading for free is an act of piracy. Basically MPAA and RIAA wants to redefine the term 'piracy' so they can continue screwing us. - cliffski, on 05/09/2008, -1/+1agreed 100%, but you and me fight a tough battle against kiddies on digg who think the world owes them a living.
- ITFeed, on 05/09/2008, -1/+5its not about the popularity of piracy. It is the fact that RIAA and MPAA are out there to screw the consumers and screw the artists. Eventually the consumers just too fed up with the greedy fat corporates giants and find a more cost efficient alternatives.
- fkr3, on 05/08/2008, -23/+6You can be sued in lots of countries...
- burrgrinder, on 05/08/2008, -2/+37Copyright infringement isn't a federal offense. It's strictly a civil (monetary) matter between two parties. The government itself can't take any action against you for infringing someone else's copyright.
Also, unless TPB operates as a business in the US somehow or their current residing country has some sort of law agreement for civil matters, I don't see this working out very well for the MPAA. - TomFrost, on 05/08/2008, -1/+29To infringe on one's copyright, one must make freely available an asset that would not normally be freely available, outside the list of allowable exceptions.
The Pirate Bay does not, has not, and will never do this. They store 128-bit hashes of file parts. No amount of data on their site is copyrighted by anyone. They do not distribute copyrighted data. Others do. The allowance of bittorrent file sharing is not illegal.- rasmasyean, on 05/08/2008, -13/+1Uh...actually aiding in a crime is too. What you are saying is not the reason why they are getting away with it.
- Feanor, on 05/08/2008, -1/+16Except its a civil offense, not a crime.
- burrgrinder, on 05/08/2008, -4/+1Contributory Copyright Infringement is what you're talking about:
http://www.quizlaw.com/copyrights/what_is_contribu ...
In the US though, they have to know they are helping infringers (TPB does) AND participate in infringement (arguably either way for them).
The other option is Vicarious Copyright Infringement, where TPB stands to make money from someone else infringing (they do) AND has the ability to control the infringement at a user by user level (they don't).
If they're held by US law, they're going to get sued for Contributory on the basis that they are participating in the infringement. There is also a limit of $100,000 per infringement, so this $15 million seems high. - burrgrinder, on 05/08/2008, -3/+1I edited my post and farked the link. Here is is again:
http://www.quizlaw.com/copyrights/what_is_contribu ... - mrsteveman1, on 05/08/2008, -1/+14If i can search Google for a torrent file and end up being able to download the actual movie, they have done exactly the same thing TPB has, in fact google makes money on the ads they place next to your search just like TPB does. They are both indexes and search engines, and unless I'm wrong they are supposed to be covered by safe harbor because this is all user submitted content, in fact its HASHES of user submitted content, not even copyrighted material.
Then you are forced to move the argument into the territory of intent, proclaiming that TPB only exists to assist others in infringing copyrighted material, which is a different issue entirely. - burrgrinder, on 05/09/2008, -0/+0Awesome. Dugg down for providing actual law knowledge.
- rasmasyean, on 05/08/2008, -13/+1Uh...actually aiding in a crime is too. What you are saying is not the reason why they are getting away with it.
- sporad1c, on 05/08/2008, -11/+1Your a douchebag.
- infinitiesedge, on 05/09/2008, -1/+11No YOU'RE.
- mrsteveman1, on 05/09/2008, -1/+1Is that kinda like "bring your A game" ?
- redwallhp, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1Also, the site is a BitTorrent tracker site. It can theoretically be used for legal downloading.
On another note, why are the MPAA even worried about this? What percentage of people are tech-savvy enough to actually grab something off BitTorrent? I would bet not enough to really impact their sales.
- BlakeEM, on 05/08/2008, -2/+51Sure but The Pirate Bay isn't in the US.
- adml_shake, on 05/08/2008, -1/+36Screams last ditch effort to me.
- endlessoul, on 05/09/2008, -1/+5Or a ramping up to something big.
- chdodd2012, on 05/08/2008, -9/+2Does not matter if it is in Sweeden, the federal governement can "seek to fix international wrongs that compromise existing laws." This is one such case.
- infinitiesedge, on 05/09/2008, -0/+10MPAA =/= Federal government
- Tenoq, on 05/09/2008, -2/+1Fail @ reply button?
- rasmasyean, on 05/08/2008, -1/+4They were raided once. But that was prolly as publicity staged event.
- rasmasyean, on 05/08/2008, -7/+2Good thing the US government doesn't really give a crap. Or they would be dead!
- cliffski, on 05/09/2008, -4/+1it's called stealing other peoples hard work and profiting from it. you DID know that's what these arrogant Swedish retards do right?
- chdodd2012, on 05/08/2008, -50/+7well, maybe because they allow for copyright infringement, a federal offense...
- gamedyer, on 05/08/2008, -2/+31yeah... Torrents will live for a long time. These people are just trying to threaten. Bullies! :D
- ani625, on 05/08/2008, -1/+148The "legal" page in thepiratebay gives an idea how much they are actaully gonna pay..
- 1ShotJake, on 05/08/2008, -1/+20Too bad the MPAA hasn't figured out it wasn't meant to be sarcastic yet...
- spoogieking012, on 05/08/2008, -1/+16http://thepiratebay.org/legal
- Modestexcuse, on 05/08/2008, -1/+5I just read through all of the postings on their legal page. That is some of the funniest stuff I've read in a while. Thanks!
- DTJunkie07, on 05/09/2008, -1/+6In response to an Apple legal notice to take down copyrighted materials: "Instead of simply recommending that you sodomize yourself with a retractable baton, let me recommend a specific model - the ASP 21". The previous lawyers tried to use a cheaper brand, but it broke during the action. "
- rogueyak, on 05/09/2008, -0/+3I can use annoying formats too!
- lucidguru, on 05/08/2008, -3/+120[Insert ***** the MPAA here]
- JusticeFriend, on 05/08/2008, -2/+50***** the MPAA and RIAA!
- WaveyRavey, on 05/08/2008, -0/+2why cant we delete accidental comments?
- Tishiablo, on 05/08/2008, -0/+6It's coming with the new comment system...
- AzureRise, on 05/09/2008, -0/+15Right after Duke Nukem Forever's release.
- ats314, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1.
- LegendarySock, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1Because of the ***** MPAA and the RIAA! ***** them both!
- WaveyRavey, on 05/08/2008, -0/+2why cant we delete accidental comments?
- JusticeFriend, on 05/08/2008, -2/+50***** the MPAA and RIAA!
- RyanJones, on 05/08/2008, -2/+36What's worse is that the guys actually believe they are going to get the money from the TPB. Nobody can be that naive after all they have tried so far can they?
- latova, on 05/08/2008, -12/+9Damn, Piratebay has nothing on Torrentspy.
- JusticeFriend, on 05/08/2008, -0/+79Im looking forward for the response letter of TPB...
- gubatron2, on 05/08/2008, -0/+29Those are the best, for those who haven't been enlightened by previous responses please go here and read the responses http://thepiratebay.org/legal
- h0ser, on 05/08/2008, -1/+63Pirate bay replies by saying "shiver me timbers"
- WaxenPith, on 05/08/2008, -12/+1lulz...
- chkdg8, on 05/08/2008, -17/+6These guys are true ninjas. Off of their Legal page:
Microsoft: email (we get tons of these)
Mono Music: email (swedish)
DreamWorks: email our response
EA: email our response
Uppsala universitet: emails our response mail exchange back and forth final mail (they also called the phone# in whois) (swedish)
ADV Films: email our response
Sublimal Sounds: email our response 2nd mail and response
SEGA: email our response 2nd mail 3rd mail and response
Sveriges Radio: email our response (swedish)
Peter Pehrson - enya.com / Warner Music: email our response
Apple: email our response
White Stripes / WEB SHERIFF: email our response 2nd mail and response our fax (invoice) 3rd mail attached document We tell Faxxsheriff about our new site 4th mail our response
Warner Bros / Billy Corgan / GrayZone Inc: email our response
Warner Bros / Disturbed / GrayZone Inc: email our response 2nd email and response
iRacing: letter (yes, they sent us a PDF) our response (the actual response was a 1MB BMP file, but well...)
Andrew Rabbitt / Rabbit Valley Comics: email our response 2nd email
Linotype: postal mail (1 2) our response (1 2)
Prophecy House: email and our response (he also called us, talking about the antichrist)
MPAA / Hollywood / Swedish goverment / a lot of people (2006-05-31): MPAA press release our comment
Most of you probably know of the big raid of 2006-05-31. Some day we will write a separate page about all the events. Look at the documentary Steal This Film for more information.
No action (except ridiculing the senders) has been taken by us because of these. :-)
Nice graphs for the law firms who don't get the hint above:
(we used to have a nice graph here, but it's simpler to just say: 0 torrents has been removed, and 0 torrents will ever be removed.)- Lith25, on 05/08/2008, -2/+16These guys are true pirates. Off of their Legal page:
--Fixed- CarnivalOfDust, on 05/08/2008, -3/+2TPB transcends the whole pirate/ninja war. A true ninja would sooner fall on his sword than let the MPAA take them out.
- Lith25, on 05/08/2008, -2/+16These guys are true pirates. Off of their Legal page:
- mark076h, on 05/08/2008, -1/+78LONG LIVE THE PIRATE BAY! ARRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Eibx, on 05/09/2008, -0/+2ARRRRRRR!!!!!
- whyufail, on 05/08/2008, -1/+27The MPAA is good at making demands, but that's about it. Regardless, they aren't going to see *****. I am however curious how they managed to narrow it down to those few torrents.
- Atomic1fire, on 05/08/2008, -5/+22Just 3 movies and 13 tv episodes?
Is the RIAA going soft?- cohortq, on 05/08/2008, -1/+15It's the MPAA.
- scarz99, on 05/08/2008, -0/+8*coughMPAAcough*
- zspade, on 05/08/2008, -1/+8considering this has nothing to do with the RIAA, I'm going to assume you just like to ask random questions about the RIAA's impending impotence.
- bokep, on 05/09/2008, -1/+1This lawsuit is flaccid indeed.
- theskillwithin, on 05/08/2008, -1/+16I DEMAND $15 Million. (question: where do they think this ***** money comes from, does it exist?).
The context almost makes it empty.- Chunken, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1It's not about the money for the MPAA, the idea is to get them shut down. The way the creators of thepiratebay have set up their network makes it almost impossible to shut them down though, so it's doubtful it will happen any time soon.
- cliffski, on 05/09/2008, -2/+2TPB makes millions each year from advertising which they no doubt stash in a swiss bank acount whilst fleecing gullible cretins for donations for islands. You really think one of the most popular sites on the internet isnt making money?
grow up.
- chdodd2012, on 05/08/2008, -32/+5you know that copyright infringement is illegal, right?
- zlatinb, on 05/08/2008, -11/+4they know, but they don't care.
- chrgrose, on 05/08/2008, -2/+15Not in Sweden, tard.
- Simonft, on 05/09/2008, -1/+2Yes in Sweden, just not the distributing of torrents for it..
- bagelmaster, on 05/08/2008, -2/+4It shouldn't be (IMO) but sadly it is. But that isn't the question here, the question is: is it illegal to provides links that allow people to download copyrighted material? TPB contains no actual copyrighted material for download, they only provide a link. So technically, they haven't committed a crime. Until the Swedish government makes it illegal, if they ever do.
- cliffski, on 05/09/2008, -3/+1if i direct you to local drug dealers, I can get serious prison time for aiding and abetting. seems like you have no ***** clue how law works do you?
- unrealmp3, on 05/09/2008, -1/+5I'll make a small analogy. Who is guilty in a murder, the guy who used the weapon or the gun shop who sold it ?
- genuchelu, on 05/09/2008, -1/+2try this: who is guilty in a murder, the guy who used the weapon, or the "underground" shop who told him where to get illegal weapons.
- yetAnotherCroc, on 05/09/2008, -1/+1Ah but in this case the pirate bay themselves never actually tell you where the files are located. One of the USERS submited the link. And since TPB doesn't have the manpower or wish to censor their usersubissions the responsibility for the contents of the link remain with the user who posted. So in short: Some other user Chose to put up a torrent for something copyrighted. You chose to download it. In all of this TPB was about as complicit as the aforementioned gunshop owner.
- genuchelu, on 05/09/2008, -1/+2try this: who is guilty in a murder, the guy who used the weapon, or the "underground" shop who told him where to get illegal weapons.
- jjwinter, on 05/08/2008, -2/+22Feeling sorry for the Mpaa is likened to being mad at puppies.... those sick bastards. It's official all Mpaa supporters hate puppies!
- infinitus64, on 05/08/2008, -0/+4yeah they kick them too
- Rwned, on 05/08/2008, -2/+17Lol didn't pirate bay recently move to like Yemen or something? I doubt they are worried.
- Skelly11, on 05/08/2008, -3/+39Ok, the MPAA won one battle against TorrentSpy and suddenly they grow the balls to take on the world.....***** THE MPAA
- AppleGeorge, on 05/08/2008, -2/+31The difference is TorrentSpy was hosted where it's illegal. TPB is hosted where it's perfectly legal to share files.
- SenorGeltabz, on 05/08/2008, -1/+10Wadsted expects the worst now she has announced the claims, even being hacked by Pirate Bay fanboys: “I know that they have an increased interest in my person and that they try to ridicule me. I also count on having my computer hacked. As a business lawyer, I’m not used to these kinds of reactions.” Sucks to be You!!!!!
- PRlME, on 05/08/2008, -1/+7thats it?
- Trifold, on 05/08/2008, -2/+5Well hey, good luck with that MPAA. I'm sure TPB will just quake at the threat of your baseless lawsuits and pay whatever you desire!
You'd have to figure at SOME point the MP/RIAA will learn to adapt to and embrace new technology and use it to their advantage rather than try to sue it out of existence to maintain their antiquated business model. ...Right? - CarnivalOfDust, on 05/08/2008, -1/+11$15 million for a few films and episodes? Do you get the impression that the MPAA just doesn't have the balls (or the evidence) for the final battle? TPB has handled other onslaughts really well, so here's hoping this goes the same way.
Good luck guys, we're all on your side! *Sheds a proud tear* - celkin, on 05/08/2008, -4/+15Just in case anyone missed it:
***** THE MPAA!!!1!!!one!1 - wediggit, on 05/08/2008, -8/+4Well I'm gonna sue, cus I downloaded "Big T1T5 69" and they were just average. I'll feed yer gizzards to the gulls ya scurvy riden seadogs.
- BeerRules, on 05/08/2008, -1/+5Good luck getting one dime or whatever the currency is wherever the servers are hosted.
- FDDIcent, on 05/08/2008, -1/+16“The worst thing is that I lost 100 kronor on a bet on the number they would come up with,” Sunde added. “And, it sucks that they didn’t claim more than for Napster and the other sites. It’s cooler to break the record.”
Awesome. - sagat, on 05/08/2008, -3/+283 movies and 13 TV-episodes? Looks like the MPAA aren't very good at using the search tools.
- digitaldan87, on 05/08/2008, -0/+5land lubbers.
- Vizerai, on 05/08/2008, -4/+40The Pirate Bay should make a counter demand that the MPAA go ***** themselves.
- Aensland, on 05/08/2008, -1/+12That would be awesome to read in legalese.
- endlessoul, on 05/09/2008, -1/+3This just in: The Pirate Bay has announced a demand from the MPAA to copulate themselves with what can only be translated as a "Rusty Spoon."
Details at 11.
- CYR1X, on 05/08/2008, -3/+5Why is this news, the real news is if anything will actually happen from this.
- frsrblch, on 05/08/2008, -1/+11At that price, if they won damages for all the stuff on TPB they could buy Sweden.
- rasmasyean, on 05/08/2008, -2/+4You gotta give them credit for trying…real software make money on licensing and businesses and other sales. Entertainment doesn’t have that avenue.
- Chunken, on 05/09/2008, -1/+1That's their own fault. They're blaming other people for their own inability to innovate. ***** em!
- RSS14, on 05/08/2008, -2/+18The MPAA are the real pirates . . . $15 million? Are they serious?
- cotaskmemalloc, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1They are the real pirates? Ah-hem, how the ***** do you figure that?
- Lazydriver, on 05/09/2008, -1/+1Well, they don't give a damn dime to the people they supposedly represent, and they go around suing people for no ***** reason (other then OMG I DOWNLOADED A SONG!!!)
People are charitable. People will buy things, because we all know that our favorite would die without support. People pirate things they haven't used before, or tried out, and they won't donate a damn dime unless they feel that the company/band/artist/producers/directors deserves the cash.
What'll happen is this: EVERYTHING WILL STILL SELL IF IT'S GOOD, AND NOTHING WILL SELL IF IT'S BAD!- cotaskmemalloc, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1Ah. You're 14. I understand. You think you know everything. I was like you once. You'll grow out of it (I hope).
- cotaskmemalloc, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1error
- Lazydriver, on 05/09/2008, -1/+1Well, they don't give a damn dime to the people they supposedly represent, and they go around suing people for no ***** reason (other then OMG I DOWNLOADED A SONG!!!)
- cotaskmemalloc, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1They are the real pirates? Ah-hem, how the ***** do you figure that?
- Rufunki, on 05/08/2008, -0/+12TPB has told entire countries to ***** off, MPAA is a insect at best to the awesome power of TPB.
- junkin07, on 05/08/2008, -2/+1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdHcZB3L3uA
- SpookyApplePie, on 05/08/2008, -2/+29***** THE RIAA
***** THE MPAA
***** THE IFPI
***** THE BFI (im british)- infinitiesedge, on 05/09/2008, -1/+5***** THE MAN
- Beatmiser, on 05/08/2008, -9/+9You know, I understand people's motivations for illegal downloads But let's not pretend like it's not a crime whether victimless or not. If the Pirate Bay loses? So be it. There is no ambiguity here. They are breaking the law. Do the MPAA and RIAA suck? Absolutely. Are their business plans out dated and draconian? Absolutely.
Does that make downloading right? Absolutely not. Change the model via boycott. Not theft.
I'm sure I'll be dugg down by the same people who did it when I suggested that pirating games was wrong as well. Your sense of entitlement doesn't make anything right.- Aensland, on 05/08/2008, -3/+13Uh, TPB has proven repeatedly that they have not broken any of Sweden's laws. If you want to get technical then what is TPB doing that's illegal? Torrents in and of themselves aren't illegal. Why doesn't the MPAA sue Google for pointing to movies stored on Rapidshare or something, then? There's exactly nothing on TPB servers that is MPAA "intellectual property".
- Beatmiser, on 05/08/2008, -9/+2Sorry but the "It's Legal In Sweden" Defense holds very little water with me.
Also as far as Rapidshare goes, they are quick to pull content someone reports as illegal.- endlessoul, on 05/09/2008, -2/+9What, you think only America's laws matter in the world?
You must be joking.
- endlessoul, on 05/09/2008, -2/+9What, you think only America's laws matter in the world?
- InfiniteNothing, on 05/09/2008, -1/+2If someone breaks a US law in Sweden can you explain what legal standing the MPAA has?
- Beatmiser, on 05/08/2008, -9/+2Sorry but the "It's Legal In Sweden" Defense holds very little water with me.
- Modestexcuse, on 05/08/2008, -2/+2I dug ya up. I only torrent stuff I lost, or stuff I want to try before I buy it, or things I WOULDN'T buy. That's the truth. I have to admit, I see nothing wrong with getting music for free, but we should support the artist by buying clothing, or going to their concerts. We all have our own ideals on why this is wrong or right.
- Lazydriver, on 05/09/2008, -1/+2Boycotts don't do *****. Money talks and so do letters.
- usgovterrorists, on 05/09/2008, -3/+4Lets not pretend the terrorist United States Government obeys the law either!
What is the penalty for the terrorist United States Government breaking the law?
United States Government are terrorists, war criminals, and horrific liars.
Where's the evidence that kerosene fires melted steel?
How did the huge molten pools of metal get under the twin towers and building
7?
9-11 was an inside job! 9-11 official story was a lie! What happened to
building 7?
Depleted uranium is a weapon of mass destruction!
Play Wall Street like a PONZI SCHEME!
The elections are rigged, unsecure voting machines & ballots!
Terrorist United States Government mandated a fivefold increase in the use of
biofuels.- itsfunny, on 05/09/2008, -1/+2I love you. :D
- Chunken, on 05/09/2008, -1/+1They are not breaking the law. Some of their users are breaking the law.
- Jorin, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1"Change the model via boycott. Not theft."
Why not do both at once? It's called a changing market.
- Aensland, on 05/08/2008, -3/+13Uh, TPB has proven repeatedly that they have not broken any of Sweden's laws. If you want to get technical then what is TPB doing that's illegal? Torrents in and of themselves aren't illegal. Why doesn't the MPAA sue Google for pointing to movies stored on Rapidshare or something, then? There's exactly nothing on TPB servers that is MPAA "intellectual property".
- sporad1c, on 05/08/2008, -7/+4Thank god demonoid is back online, cause if I lost both thepiratebay.org and demonoid.com I would kill myself. Good thing there both still running strong!
- cotaskmemalloc, on 05/09/2008, -1/+4Go kill yourself anyway.
- haylel, on 05/09/2008, -0/+3buried because shhhhhh
- Mon1153, on 05/08/2008, -5/+2what a bunch of *****
- dafragsta, on 05/08/2008, -1/+11... to which the Pirate Bay replied "Is that all it takes to get you assholes to disappear?!"
- Nth3nSum, on 05/08/2008, -1/+6Won't be all that much with the value of the dollar declining.
Why would this bother them, they've not been bothered by any of the previous threats, why start now?
On the very off chance that the MPAA does get a victory they will just close up that company or continue to work out of other countries. Another tracker will be born and all the pirates will laugh. It can't be stopped now. Further lawsuits only serve to make us all wary of any future site that an MPAA company comes up with. - scarz99, on 05/08/2008, -8/+1Theres always Mininova!
- scarwars, on 05/08/2008, -1/+4‘The Pink Panther’ is the most popular title among Pirate Bay users; the least popular, by a mile, is ‘Syriana’.
damn, those Pirate Bay users have no taste- roarus, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1Either that, or movie studios are desperately trying to recoup capital lost from making ***** movies
- elislider, on 05/08/2008, -2/+1well tv shows are fair game because they are publicly broadcast and anyone can record the tv show if they want. the movies are the only possible thing they could consider using, but theres still no cast
- cotaskmemalloc, on 05/09/2008, -0/+2Cable isn't publicly broadcast.
- SEANWOOKIE, on 05/08/2008, -4/+2Pirate Bay to MPAA: ***** YOU!!!
- rxbudian, on 05/08/2008, -2/+1If I was one the users, I would start doing something about it. if not Pirate Bay might end up like Shareaza. read up here: http://digg.com/tech_news/Shareaza_com_Hijacked_an ...
- mozert, on 05/08/2008, -1/+4TPB is our hero.
- djdingo, on 05/08/2008, -1/+5Long live TPB, but seriously, their Search function on their site sucks. I love it when you type in something particular and end up with a list of 1000 things that have NOTHING to do with what you're searching for!
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