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- longhair, on 10/11/2007, -9/+25So, by having 9 million people on their PC's streaming video helped the environment? I would have thought turning OFF your PC's and saving some electricity might have helped more.
- posture, on 10/11/2007, -6/+19I was just watching some performances on the MSN website and noticed the online coverage was sponsored by Chevy. I also can't help but wonder about all the trash that must have been left behind after the concerts.
- robszol, on 10/11/2007, -2/+10shortest article ever. Almost meaningless to post:
The Live Earth global pop concerts on Saturday broke a record for an online entertainment show by generating more than 9 million Internet streams, Microsoft Corp. Web portal MSN said.
As the last two of the nine Live Earth concerts got underway, MSN product manager Karin Muskopf said the number of streams had surpassed the previous record held by 2005's Live 8 global concerts to fight poverty. - Grimdotdotdot, on 10/11/2007, -8/+15This was *****.
When asked how a bunch of huge, non-environmentally friendly concerts (that artists were travelling to by jet and limo) can help global warming, the answer was 'it raises awereness'.
If there's a fire, you don't run around trying to raise awareness, you put the ***** out.
This was nothing more than a bunch of bands and singers desperate to get 'noticed'. - Shorties, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9I have to disagree with you, while you might not have found the motivation to change I learned a lot from the concerts, Since Live earth I have replaced 3 of my lights with CFL's and have stopped buying bottled water. I also realized I throw away a lot of recyclables, I also added 100% recycled Paper Towels to the shopping list, so to say that there was sparse educational material is very inaccurate.
- mishsquish, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20070319.gif
- gfair, on 10/11/2007, -10/+16One pollution firm estimated that the concerts combined generated 31,500 tons of CO2, and made the obvious point that most of the big A-list stars flew to the gigs in private jets and have cars that average less than 15 MPG. In the end it turned out just like the Hippy jam in Southpark - a lot of drums got clapped, a lot of guitars got picked and strummed, and nothing much changed. Very few people learned anything from the concerts, as there was sparse educational material, at least on display.
- elhutcho, on 10/11/2007, -3/+9They recycled most everything. Also, those people would have been elsewhere, contributing to their carbon footprint, if not there, so most of the carbon ought to be considered covering what was displaced by their attendance at the concert. Of course, there was still excess, but the belief that this is a means to a more environmentally friendly end justifies that.
- silencerider151, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5with the new comment system, it's pretty hard to screw up replying to a comment.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7Both as pathetic and meaningless as each other. Both nothing more than an exercise is ego stroking.
- nicepants, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I think the RIAA would disagree.
- Cyrusman, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7That's nice. However, it's too bad that Live Earth hasn't actually done much for the envrionment. I appreciate their cause, but I won't support them until they do something to really change the environment for the better.
- tadunne, on 10/11/2007, -6/+109 Million Streams, that sounds like a lot of carbon to me!
- NoodleGuy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4You make a valid point. If this period of global warming would have occurred without human intervention (Which is what you are saying), then we aren't going to be able to stop global warming completely. OK. I'll concede that point. However, what do we loose by stopping emissions of Greenhouse gasses?
If we stop burning fossil fuels, but still have cars, planes, ships and electricity, but we have it more efficiently, and cleaner who are we hurting? On the other hand, if you're wrong... and we keep living the way we have been, and pollute the environment to a point that animals and humans start to die, then it's a game over, and there is no second chance. - Renton, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5And Al Gore supports terrorism! Seriously, since when did Fox News start to overrun digg?
- feelsgood, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5Is this one of the types of programs that would be shutdown if H.R. 2060, The Internet Radio Equality Act, is not realized?
- socket, on 10/11/2007, -6/+86 million of them where coming from one IP traced back to Al Gores personal data center hidden deep in the amazon rain forest.
- gfair, on 10/11/2007, -4/+6I wonder what we're going to do when we stop the warming that humans are causing, only to find out that the earth is in a warming cycle anyway and that humans would have to actually block sunlight just to counter it because we can't reduce the global warming caused by the sun itself.. Greenland was once forested, meaning that the Earth survived far warmer periods than we're in right now, which means that humans face an impossible task if we want to counter our own warming, plus that of earth's natural cycles.
- zdlatham, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Wow. 9 million computers at approx 350 watts with case and monitor plus broadband modem and router = approx 500 watts.
So 4,500 million watts. That is the total capacity of two 2,500 Mw coal fired power plants not counting the cooling capacity necessary to cool the heat generated by the PCs use.
That is one hell of a footprint. - chuckdubdubdub, on 10/11/2007, -7/+9Raising awareness is actually really important to solve this problem. Gore has spent much of the time trying to be heard while being drowned out by the minority scientists who are industry lackies who question the whole human-beings-cause-global-warming idea. Now he is being heard and it is GREAT.
If it takes a worldwide concert to do it, then fine. This was a unique event and at least based on viewership it was highly successful! - diffraction, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I think we have more pressing matters than global warming to worry about because somehow Mars, Jupiter & Saturn shifted closer to the Sun than the Earth.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2007/090707closertosun.htm - silencerider151, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Don't cut down fresh trees. Today's trees are tomorrow's tables.
- CAACAA, on 10/11/2007, -5/+7"Live Hypocrisy" more like. I love being told to save energy by multi-millionaire, multiple homed, globe trotting, private jet owning pop stars. It just makes so much sense.
- Kitsune818, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3If they cared so much, why didn't they plan ahead to use the proceeds of the concert to offset the concert to carbon neutral?
- MiNGLED, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Promote the environment by winning a car. The second prize is a years worth of free coal...apparently.
- jake86, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2What do you mean 'They'? Don't you live on Earth?
- Protean1, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4all in all, it's just another brick in the wall.
- Trepan, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Did they use Class D or higher power amplifiers in their PA systems and instrument amplifiers? If not, the amps alone would be wasting somewhere between 50-80% of their consumed energy on heat. I'm surprised nobody has brought this point up.
- geuisteses, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Current.tv is running an interesting contest related to all the Live Earth stuff. looks like they're giving away some free gear and a car or something for making a video. its like http://current.tv/ecospot I think
- richardiscool, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I don't.
- Darkhowling91, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1And think of all the people who didn't watch it but instead played solitare. DAMN YOU SOLITARE.
- Special, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Probably not; I doubt MSN has to pay licensing fees for what they're streaming, since they're doing the sponsored stream of a live show.
- factorof2, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4You're doing a great service to society, haha.
- byronm, on 10/11/2007, -1/+21 million trees being planted, millions of people making a pledge to do something, people networking, exchanging ideas and learning about the environment. You would have to be ignorant or simply retarded to not get anything out of the concert.
ALl the naysayers are just spreading the concert around to more people and increasing the awareness while digging themselves in a deeper whole of democracy. I mean the ultimate freedom is the capability for people to learn, interact, have fun, enjoy music and make independant decisions for the better of our future - people here find that wrong/misguided? i laugh in your FACE - NoodleGuy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I'll mod you down, but not because you are saying anything against digg.. I'm Digging you down because you can't figure out how to click "Reply to this comment" Now, go back click "Reply" and try again.
- mliving, on 10/11/2007, -2/+39 million eh! Probably because every user had to reconnect 3 times to get a decent stream.
I watched Live 8 online and AOL did an amazing job with Microsoft technology. At one point I was watching 6 different streaming simultaneously.
The same CAN NOT be said for Live Earth. Streaming for Live Earth on MSN required IE with of all things FLASH for some custom viewer that blew chuncks. Then if you didn't have IE you had the amazing choice of Quicktime - Even bigger chunks!
Ah. I thought Microsoft's Windows Media technology was dabomb?! Why didn't MS use their own technology like the forced AOL to do? Because MS doesn't have the same technical abilities as AOL does or did.
Live Earth was done a HUGE disservice be MSN and like so many MS sponsored events it just sucked the way most MS sponsored event do. Not that Live Earth itself was that amazing. In Canada the coverage was so broken up by CTV's talking heads giggling and 'oh my god-ing' that it was almost unbearable.
Time for a seriously new idea. This global rock event is getting tiresome and exacts a huge cost on of all things - our environment. - Crazymaniacc, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3That's nothing, I thought they would get a Billion, with all those Japanese watchers
- p51d007, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Not to mention the billions of tons of carbon by these lame brain idiots flying all over the place.
Did anyone see the news report showing Algore talking at one of the events, with a large jumbotron screen
in the background with a spinning globe? THE GLOBE WAS SPINNING THE WRONG DIRECTION! .....Priceless! - gheide, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1And how much energy did they waste displaying those damn annoying ZUNE ads in front of EVERY clip??
- richardiscool, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Retard.
- richardiscool, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I think where you said "press", you actually meant "Mail on Sunday"
- shellacked, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1A better analogy would be something like this: There are many fires burning all over the place because ignorant, self centered bastards keep throwing their lit cigarettes out the windows of their SUV's. If you only "put the ***** out" as you so eloquently put it, another self centered bastard driving his SUV will throw another cigarette out his window and start another one.
You have to solve *BOTH* problems. You have to educate the ignorant self centered SUV driving bastards, and "put the ***** out"
How this logic escapes you I cannot comprehend - richardiscool, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Seeing as she lives in London, probably none.
- Kitsune818, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2What, if anything, did this concert actually do for the environment? I mean, aside from dumping a ton of additional CO2 into it. To me it's two completely unrelated concepts, rock concerts and environmentalism. I liken it to "Drive a HumVee for Bhudha!" or "Needlepoints for Marxism" Not to mention, personally I thought the acts were a bit week and most of them seemed a bit aged.
How bad is it when you can't get Bono to back your political activism? - richardiscool, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1And Microsoft used their Quicktime streaming technology to pull it off.
Oh, wait... - fightclub, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1y'mean Chinese don't you, Japan has a pop of around 127 Million. Brush up on yer geography pal, try google ;)
- chuckdubdubdub, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Look... this wasn't the end-all-be-all of anti-Global Warming efforts. The Life Earth concerts were a really good start to counteract the prevailing ignorance and apathy.
The problem has been getting people to listen and understand how utterly serious the problem is without being drowned out by feel-good "Fossil fuel enhances our lives" industry speak. Watch CNN, you see these commercials EVERY NIGHT. Guess what? Our lifestyle is unsustainable and you can't just ditch that message because the artists used stretch limos to get to the venue. I'm sure if we had stretch Priuses available they would have taken them. This nit-picking is designed to obscure the message, I'm afraid. Next I'll expect to hear, "What does Al Gore know, he says he invented the internet, ha ha ha..." Missing the point! - Kitsune818, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2You sound like this dude I talked to once outside a Phish concert playing with Devil Sticks. "Music is the ultimate freedom maahnn! If we could like, all get together, and love each other.. wow man, that would be one sweet jam."
Neo-hippies suck. Stop having concerts and start using CFLs and walking more. No need to pat yourselves on the back in public us-vs.-them wankfests.
BTW, what the hell is a "deeper whole of democracy"?? - kineticarl, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1meh... a trip in your car to the concert would be way worse. Plus, under normal conditions (i.e., not gaming or rendering video), you might pull 100W for your computer, maybe 50W for your LCD screen. A 350W power supply doesn't mean your computer is using 350W.
- srodolff, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4How's this for awareness.........
Fact: Humans have a barely negligible effect on green house gases. -
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