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- FreDre, on 06/10/2009, -3/+26At last!
***** Albanel.
I hope she resigns (but she probably won't, the paycheck from the lobbyists is too big...) - dupems, on 06/10/2009, -3/+24Viva la internet.
- bannor78, on 06/10/2009, -2/+21the right to free assembly is what Jefferson would have called internet access.
- jos22, on 06/10/2009, -2/+21love to see Sarkozy face when he heard the news.
- Mship, on 06/10/2009, -2/+16Many people believe that the access to information is a Fundamental human right. This is the reason why we have public schools, libraries, etc.. So dont you think the greatest and easiest access to information should be also be consider as such.
- philodygmn, on 06/10/2009, -1/+13The issue of whether or not access is a fundamental right is distinct and separate from someone's ability to _achieve_ access for _themselves_, say, by paying their monthly service fee or whatever. *****' confusion over that versus giving someone unlimited, free access just because refusing to grant them an _opportunity_ for it violates their rights is the same mental illness as blinds people to the importance of the separation of powers here in America and leads to arguments against "activist" judges who read constitutionality instead of mob rule into law's enforcement and enforceability. The issue is not over ISPs ability to charge people and if people can't pay then they're supposedly violating their rights to refuse access, the issue is ISPs blocking someone's access because of an industry's lobbying clout.
- s73v3r, on 06/10/2009, -0/+11So just because someone says I'm sharing copyrighted material, I should get my internet access shut off? What about that whole evidence thing, and due process?
This decision is basically saying that you can't shut someone's internet access off without a court order; that you have to go through the proper channels to do it. Its like saying you can't go to the water company and get my water shut off just by telling them I use their water to drown kittens. - o76923, on 06/10/2009, -1/+11because we have so much evidence that three strikes laws have ever worked when enforced.
- pigfister, on 06/11/2009, -0/+8
lets not for get who is actually behind the MPAA - RIAA, these are the companies that need to be targeted and boycotted into changing their ways, purchase only 2nd hand media and do not purchase anything branded sony, why allow the fecktards to dictate hardware DRM anymore.
Name and shame the companies as all the **AA trade group name is for is to protect the ***** capitalist corporate globalist wankers from bad press.
RIAA, CRIA, SOUNDEXCHANGE, BPI, IFPI, Ect:
# Sony BMG Music Entertainment
# Warner Music Group
# Universal Music Group
# EMI
MPAA, MPA:
# Sony Pictures
# Warner Bros. (Time Warner)
# Universal Studios (NBC Universal)
# The Walt Disney Company
# 20th Century Fox (News Corporation)
# Paramount Pictures Viacom—(DreamWorks owners since February 2006)
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If payola wasn't bad enough to destroy indie competition you have this:
Is it justified to steal from thieves? READ ON.
RIAA Claims Ownership of All Artist Royalties For Internet Radio
http://slashdot.org/articles/07/04/29/0335224.shtm ...
"With the furor over the impending rate hike for Internet radio stations, wouldn't a good solution be for streaming internet stations to simply not play RIAA-affiliated labels' music and focus on independent artists? Sounds good, except that the RIAA's affiliate organization SoundExchange claims it has the right to collect royalties for any artist, no matter if they have signed with an RIAA label or not. 'SoundExchange (the RIAA) considers any digital performance of a song as falling under their compulsory license. If any artist records a song, SoundExchange has the right to collect royalties for its performance on Internet radio. Artists can offer to download their music for free, but they cannot offer their songs to Internet radio for free ... So how it works is that SoundExchange collects money through compulsory royalties from Webcasters and holds onto the money. If a label or artist wants their share of the money, they must become a member of SoundExchange and pay a fee to collect their royalties.'"
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/4/24/141326 ... - dagamer34, on 06/10/2009, -2/+10The right to free access of information. In today's world, that means internet access, and that would be taken away from you. It's the same as saying you CANNOT read any books because of your past actions. Everyone would find that ludicrous. Heck, in order to FUNCTION in today's world, you need Internet access. I don't see how such a law would be beneficial to people if the people are artificially restrained from one of the single greatest revolutions in how the world works in the last 100 years.
- KaiserArny, on 06/10/2009, -1/+8Each Country has different definitions of a right. In Europe & Canada, access to health care is a right, in the U.S. it's a privilege. In the U.S., owning a gun is a right, elsewhere it's a privilege.
The French court determined that to be able to disconnect a user, they have to go trough the proper judicial channels. - jos22, on 06/10/2009, -1/+8the internet is now becoming the number one source of information. education, communication. denying someone access to the internet the the same as refusing them the right to go to a public school.
- inactive, on 06/10/2009, -0/+7I didn't see that coming... WOAH!
- f54280, on 06/10/2009, -0/+7Access to information and Free Speech are a Fundamental human rights, ok ? A lot of extremely important information is only avalaible on the net, right ? Today, the net is the most important place where normal people can exercise their free speech, right ?
The law was saying, "when a private body suspects you 3 times of downloading copyrighted material, hadopi will automatically cut your internet access, and bar you from getting another one"
The court said "you are stomping on a fundamental right. This cannot be done by a non judiciary entity".
And that is a good thing. Because, you know, magically, all opponents could get their internet access canceled without recourse near the next election... - TBombadil, on 06/11/2009, -0/+6FREEEEEEEEEEEEDDDOOOOOM!!!!11one!1!!
- jparkinson, on 06/11/2009, -0/+6Win for France
- GamerXR72, on 06/10/2009, -1/+6There are many rights that aren't required to live. Are you that stupid?
- eminn3m, on 06/10/2009, -0/+4|yet there are few laws ensuring these are provided to everybody
This isn't ensuring it's provided, it's ensuring it isn't banned without a trial. - diggdiggerid, on 06/10/2009, -1/+5Find me a "human right" or a derivation of one that isn't ridiculous on its face, rely on invisible spirit entities, mysticism, or emotional appeals. Your supposed rights to life and health are just as ridiculous as the right to the internet, so why not invent all three if it would be useful?
- s73v3r, on 06/11/2009, -0/+4The law had no judicial oversight, which is one of the reasons why it was struck down. All someone had to do was go to the ISP and claim their material was being shared. Something like this should have the evidence pondered before a court, not the French RIAA saying to an ISP, "Hey, I think that guy is sharing. Kick him."
- dagamer34, on 06/10/2009, -1/+5It's more like the right to access of information (within limits of course, you can't go demanding confidential info). It's the same idea as preventing people from reading books because they might use that knowledge in a way that the government doesn't like.
- javaroast, on 06/11/2009, -0/+3The courts have spoke. NO THREE STRIKES. HA HA HAAHAHAHHAHA
- masrabel, on 06/11/2009, -1/+4Fundamental means it cannot be denied without a trial.
- diggdiggerid, on 06/10/2009, -1/+4Anything else you could think to designate as a "fundamental human right" is just as arbitrary and axiomatic. We're just masses of DNA; "rights" do not exist so if we invent silly "rights" like freedom of speech or the right to peacefully assemble I don't see any reason the right to access the Internet is any less arbitrary from an objective standpoint. Might as well invent rights that are useful.
- j4rcher, on 06/11/2009, -0/+3This is ***** great.
- darkened, on 06/10/2009, -1/+3The most important part of this is the precedent of the internet being a fundamental human right. I truly believe it is, I'm glad to see one world government acknowledge setting the precedent for more to follow.
- inactive, on 06/11/2009, -0/+2Internet speech is speech.
In America that would be considered a first amendment right were it not for the copy write mafia. - CdnBacon, on 06/10/2009, -1/+3Just an FYI, it's Vivre l'internet Viva is Italien
- Crisender111, on 06/11/2009, -1/+3"Fundamental Human Right" --- Bingo !
- aLuckyStar, on 06/10/2009, -0/+1lol, same
- inactive, on 06/11/2009, -1/+2This moron has a backhanded point.
Why let corporate thugs run the internet eh? - Serinus, on 06/11/2009, -0/+1a bit backwards, but close enough. dugg.
- freedomischaos, on 06/11/2009, -1/+2" Internet access is a fundamental human right"
Give me internet or give me death. - inactive, on 06/12/2009, -0/+1The companies didn't make diddly *****. Look up DARPA.
- GovernmentsGun, on 06/11/2009, -0/+1Ah, look at that, invective. Bravo for your very intelligent reply.
Had you given thought to it though, you'd understand that mothers undertake care of their children voluntarily and therefore become responsible for them. - pigfister, on 06/11/2009, -0/+1because congress gave them the power to do this. this is for any song so the USA is stealing royalties from all artists in other countries and they have to fight to get their monies stolen from them by the RIAA.
- leszek, on 06/11/2009, -0/+1Nope, it's "Vive l'internet"
You have to conjugate Vivre - bbbreak, on 06/11/2009, -0/+1I completely agree with you on these matters. I'm just curious though, if anyone knows the answer: How can a company collect money on a song that an independent artist who uses THEIR money to record the song, and gives THEIR copyright agreement to play it on the radio? The SoundExchange has presumably had no contact with the artists, has not given them money to record the song, etc. Does anybody know the answer?
- Daniel0, on 06/11/2009, -0/+1Since when did jeans become one of the primary means of obtaining information and knowledge in the modern society?
Where do you go if you need information on a particular topic? The jeans store or the internet? - GamerXR72, on 06/10/2009, -1/+1Where am superman?
- jorel009, on 06/10/2009, -1/+1lol bazaro ftw!
- GovernmentsGun, on 06/11/2009, -3/+3Government can never, in reality, give or take away rights. They can only recognized them or not. Anytime government declares a 'right', it really means it's a privilege.
- inactive, on 06/11/2009, -1/+1water.
- inactive, on 06/11/2009, -2/+2Here is a good test to determine if something can be a right or not. Does someone else have to give it to you? If the answer is yes, the thing cannot be a right. This is because you do not have a right to another persons time or efforts, ever.
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Pay for your own mothers milk you ***** bitch.
You have no right to breast feed. - bbbreak, on 06/11/2009, -0/+0Except you can manage to give yourself free internet. I don't exactly know how the companies do it, however, if they manage to create all of the available internet to provide to you for a fee, you can (for the price of the equipment/whatever) create your own internet to provide for others, or yourself. You're not forced to pay them for internet, but it's a hell of a lot easier for the average person to pay the companies than attempt to create their own internet, although I wish it were much easier than feeding these greedy companies the money that they don't need.
- tallguy240, on 06/10/2009, -2/+2Ha Ha!
- s73v3r, on 06/10/2009, -2/+2The fact that if they're caught, or found to have used the internet, they get thrown into pound me in the ass prison?
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