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- Audacitor, on 11/15/2007, -2/+71In five years I predict (or hope) that we will no longer be yelling "***** THE RIAA" at every opportunity. In the meantime, ***** THE RIAA.
- inactive, on 11/15/2007, -1/+28A new, backwards-compatible and open protocol would be sweet.
- xXShadowstormXx, on 11/15/2007, -1/+23Encryption by default on all clients would be welcome.
- Jeffler, on 11/14/2007, -1/+20This is a really awesome article. Good to see they are set on the future, may the pirates live on forever! ARRR
- ThetaDot, on 11/15/2007, -1/+18I think it will just become integrated into the general use of the internet. Browsers will interpret ALL links to files as torrent-based (and if one doesn't exist, one will be created for files that are in high-demand). Independent P2P programs won't be needed... future (probably non-microsoft) browsers will take various plugins to offer different UI's or preferences.
To the average, user, it will mostly be transparent. Their download window will still show a progress bar, but the underlying mechanism delivering the data will be the bittorent protocol instead of direct and single-line transfers from the original host site. - Ninnux, on 11/15/2007, -0/+17If Comcastic has it's way, there will be no future in torrents. The real-time, dynamic IP routers and switches those guys have for filtering that stuff are unbelievable. I know, because my company just bought one and had me read the spec, to double-check.
- kirashira, on 11/15/2007, -4/+20A protocol that forces people to seed.
- ZaZ2137, on 11/15/2007, -0/+13I agree, it is relevant to my interests, we must have the specs!
- rockrapdude, on 11/15/2007, -0/+13Spec's. We need spec's of the machine so we would know what we are fighting against.
- inactive, on 11/15/2007, -0/+13good pirates always share the wealth by choice. yarr
- scyon, on 11/14/2007, -2/+12hehe, I stopped listening to music from labels that are in the RIAA a long time ago. I still say ***** THE RIAA.
- duffblue, on 11/15/2007, -2/+11That's a pretty cool theory.
- SabrinaHeaven, on 11/15/2007, -1/+8We need a decentralized network for the torrents. There's no reason thousands of files should be lost when a tracker (Demonoid, Oink) goes down.
- ZaZ2137, on 11/15/2007, -4/+11Oh yes and for the people who dont have unlimited upload bandwidth per month you'd prefer they max out their allotment and get charged out the ass before they can download again
- waebi, on 11/14/2007, -2/+9i hope for encryption, (yeah there is, but too less are using it) so the Providers don't block it / slow it down. And i think it WILL remain *the* P2P-Protocol. It's very easy to use and a great idea is behind it. BT roxx.
BTW: "***** THE RIAA" ;-) - MacSuxWindozSux, on 11/14/2007, -0/+6Please do tell!
- 80hd, on 11/15/2007, -1/+6I think it'd be awesome if BT clients cached copies of random pieces from random unrelated torrents... This way seeds can be more reliably kept alive (through random or ranked distributions) and it'd be even more difficult for courts to say "you distributed these files" because you never necessarily possessed a full copy.
A 5% overhead dedicated to keeping random torrent pieces is not bad, and in cases any active tracker it will be enough that 95% of torrents completed more than 20±9.25 times will be available to a new client even if ALL the "normal" leeches and seeds disconnect at the same moment . Your probably even in the same legal boat as ISP's since your not aware of the content moving through your equipment. - DontSayFanboy, on 11/15/2007, -4/+9The contract you have with your provider is not really any of our business. If the community wishes to enforce positive ratios then you have a choice to make.
- Audacitor, on 11/14/2007, -0/+5Or at least a link to the website you can buy this gear from...
- inactive, on 11/14/2007, -0/+5Faster internet?
- Audacitor, on 11/15/2007, -1/+5I dunno, but there's this one for Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/484 ...
- felyduw, on 11/14/2007, -2/+6Of course... but the original poster's suggestion indicated no option whatsoever in a hypothetical new protocol.
- inactive, on 11/14/2007, -1/+5Pretty interesting, but doesn't say anything mind blowing. Basically they say BT is pretty cool and good but something better is bound to come along.
- inactive, on 11/15/2007, -0/+4thats probably the answer
- Tenoq, on 11/15/2007, -0/+3You're assuming people have a choice. US citizens always complain about Comcast this, Comcast that because it's the only provider they can get in their area. Well over here in Aus one by one all the providers are moving to systems that restrict and include uploads as part of your data cap. This is on top of our already slow upstream bandwidth (for me, on cable, it's 256kb/s up with 10Mb/s down) and serious download caps (I'm on the highest possible for my provider - 20GB peak, 40GB off-peak).
Sure it's a great thing to say 'force everyone to share' but the fact is some people just can't. I know my cable service would be disconnected if I tried to keep just a 1:1 ratio... let alone upload more than I download. And for reference, I don't have a choice of provider in my area, either. :p - Audacitor, on 11/15/2007, -1/+4Well, it wouldn't force you to seed, but how about a bittorrent client and web browser in the same application. That way, I'm seeding whenever I'm browsing the web (or 24/7 for short). I wonder if there's a Firefox extension...
EDIT: Holy crap, there is: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/484 ... - inactive, on 11/15/2007, -1/+4Opera already has a BitTorrent client built in, doesn't it?
- xMikey, on 11/15/2007, -0/+3@ghindo;
Yeah, Opera has had it built in for a while. - inactive, on 11/15/2007, -0/+2I do forward ports, try again
- digitalarcanum, on 11/15/2007, -0/+2a client that installs the TCP RST flag ignore fix by default. The RST flag fix to get around sandvine only works if both peers are using it. Otherwise one users ignores RST flags, and the other user doesn't, leaving a useless, half-open connection. RC4 -level encryption Azureus' beta has it, so why not?
- computerfreedom, on 11/15/2007, -0/+2I would rather steal RIAA and give $20 to a homeless man than pay those robber barons...while we're at it, ***** THE MPAA !
- nastajus, on 01/01/2008, -0/+1huh? I'm a newb about this particular, why does this need backwards compatibility?
- computerfreedom, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1I would rather not mail Bono or Britney $20 and just steal their CD for ***** and giggles...
actually, I just listen mostly to classical music, and there arent that many quality lossless recordings floating around torrents...I go see a lot of concerts (a cultural pillar which went away largely because of the "recording industry") . I loan a number of my stringed instruments to professional musicians and I am a member of.....what the ***** ever, stop blindly supporting a damaging and outdated business model ***** - nastajus, on 01/01/2008, -0/+1some isps just entirely block all encrypted traffic. that would be a bad default. you can enable that checkmark easily as needed.
- nastajus, on 01/01/2008, -0/+1is it comparable even to utorrent, or is utorrent already in another league that we shouldn't even try?
- cliffski, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1it would be awesome if those leeching swedish ***** got jail time.
- Tenoq, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1I think the RST flag was in the hardware layer, not application layer? :p
- nastajus, on 01/01/2008, -0/+1kirashira, how do you propose this be done exactly? upload speeds are generally crappier than download. and you want it to takeover the computer too against user choice? we already have private forums you have to sign up for in specified time periods or with friend codes that handle this "choice" system just fine.
- DTXT, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1Love the way you think or is it dream!, either way awesome thoughts!
- inactive, on 11/15/2007, -3/+4wouldnt it be wild if sweden started giving pirate bay some legal pressure again and they invested in some solar powered servers and put them in ships with skull and crossbone pirate flags and started sailing around the ocean with no jurisdiction
- cliffski, on 11/15/2007, -1/+1you are fighting against the urge to actually pay your ***** way, and to continue to leech off of honest people, like all digg kiddies.
- plizard, on 11/14/2007, -3/+3irc ftw
- xMikey, on 11/15/2007, -1/+1http://www.opera.com/
- scyon, on 11/14/2007, -1/+1it's fine, learn to forward ports. ;)
- Audacitor, on 11/15/2007, -2/+2I dunno, it just ain't secure. Yes, you can anonymize yourself using PeerGuardian or Tor, but both are a hassle to set up, and aren't easy or welcoming for a newcomer. Hopefully, the protocol TPB are working on will turn out to be everything we're dreaming of...
- inactive, on 11/14/2007, -1/+1i wish we could find a way to speed it up
- cliffski, on 11/15/2007, -1/+1so you DO give money by mailing te artists a check RIGHT?
***** hippocrite,. - RaiderWolf, on 11/15/2007, -0/+0Stupid n00b!!
- RaiderWolf, on 11/15/2007, -0/+0"I think it will just become integrated into the general use of the internet. Browsers will interpret ALL links to files as torrent-based (and if one doesn't exist, one will be created for files that are in high-demand). Independent P2P programs won't be needed... future (probably non-microsoft) browsers will take various plugins to offer different UI's or preferences.
To the average, user, it will mostly be transparent. Their download window will still show a progress bar, but the underlying mechanism delivering the data will be the bittorent protocol instead of direct and single-line transfers from the original host site."
Looks like things are headed in that direction: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRv953XZX6Y&feature ... - DTXT, on 11/15/2007, -1/+1lol he already knew there was an extension, just trying to advertise i!
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