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- existentialduck, on 12/31/2008, -343/+1885"don't take life so seriously, it's just the internet" - well said kevin =)
- Aitese, on 12/31/2008, -131/+1245I always chuckle when a person who's primary income is the internet says "it's just the internet", the same internet that provides their house, car, clothes on their back and food in their mouths. I wonder why those 70 odd people spend 50-60 hours a week on something so unimportant.
d2002...eat a dick. - gamebittk, on 12/31/2008, -52/+1153http://i40.tinypic.com/11h4hnd.jpg
- mingohills, on 12/31/2008, -27/+974Must be a power user.
- Paulish, on 12/31/2008, -76/+750Kevin seems very dismissive of the very internet through which he has made much of his money and fame with.
Imagine if I went into work tomorrow and told my boss "Don't take work so seriously, it's just an IT department" when he got made at one of my screw ups? - Aitese, on 12/31/2008, -23/+547Bury me all you want people...the truth is, this IS ruining the site. I used to be able to say occasionally "***** it...what's upcoming" to escape the power Diggers...but so few people bother submitting any more, they've taken over the upcoming section also.
- joemofo214, on 12/31/2008, -44/+530Kevin Rose also responds to a smartass
http://i41.tinypic.com/1juh5c.png - inactive, on 12/31/2008, -6/+441Over 18,000 users have expressed concern over how digg is effectively controlled by a handful of power spammers.
- d2002, on 12/31/2008, -66/+485http://digg.com/odd_stuff/Digg_is_Rigged_Video_pro ...
- oreonblade, on 12/31/2008, -22/+349"don't take life so seriously, it's just the internet"
No Kevin, the Internet is serious business. - Trollemite, on 12/31/2008, -12/+331I think mikesbaker said it best in that thread: "Seems like every time this comes up you and Digg just wait for it to blow over and than it's business as usual. Digg is hands down my favorite website and it sucks to seeing these power users humping digg to death. But at least the hate is directed at a group this time and not just MBM."
- piradians, on 12/31/2008, -11/+295"We have 70 or so engineers, designers, project managers, and business development/marketing folks that work 50-60hr weeks trying to create a better site for everyone."
Sounds to me like the internet is a pretty serious thing to him. - apikoros, on 12/31/2008, -17/+293"digg the stuff you like, and bury the stuff you don't like"
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"continue behaving as though this site is a community of peers, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary" - inactive, on 12/31/2008, -45/+28870 employees yet the only thing I've seen added in 6 months is this "Related by Keyword" section.
What the hell are you guys doing? Whatever it is, it must be huge. - cragga, on 12/31/2008, -125/+359You cant just "its just the internet" a problem like this away, thats ignorant and insulting and also dismissive to everyone who is not Kevin Moneybags Rose.
- SweetJ21, on 12/31/2008, -10/+241@kevinrose
If people know that their submissions will never make it to the front page, why would anyone keep submitting stories? - borez, on 12/31/2008, -6/+214That's double 9000
- frostbyt, on 12/31/2008, -18/+192Just the Internet? The single greatest creation man kind has ever made and it's "Just the Internet". The source of your income and the income of all your staff and it's "Just the Internet". It connects familys, friends, relatives, professionals and it's "Just the Internet". Creative minds and free speech thrive in a global forum and it's "Just the Internet".
Maybe you should re-evaluate what the Internet is for you. - argoff, on 12/31/2008, -44/+209I think in Kevin Roses mind, democracy on digg is not broken at all, but works just like democracy in the USA. The elite control the puppet strings, while the rest of us do the leg work. We find the content, provide the content, push interesting things to the top, do all the leg work and research for him, bring the masses to the site, and then he cherry picks whatever best supports his agenda and suppresses everything and anyone else who gets in his way. In this wet dream, he must make us feel important so that we keep doing the dirty work, but other than that we are pawns.
- effinboy, on 12/31/2008, -16/+167When do we get to digg dialogg Kevin Rose? I'd like to see a nice civil conversation via digg submissions and votes about the site and the direction it's gone in since it's creation.
- chesterjosiah, on 12/31/2008, -18/+168Yeah, who TF is digging Aitese down, and why?
Kevin completely sidestepped the problem. If you're gonna comment on the problem, at least admit that it exists and that your hard working development team is working towards it.
If you read his comment, you'll notice Kevin said that his team is working to fight against gaming. But nowhere does he admit that these power users are gaming.
This is why people are leaving Digg to Reddit. We feel like the problem isn't being addressed. And until someone working @ Digg confesses that the power users' behavior is inappropriate use of the site, we'll continue to feel like Digg isn't democratic, and we'll leave for other sites that might do a better job.
So no, I'm not going to digg on, "digg the stuff I like, bury stuff I don't like". I'd rather go somewhere else.
For fear of sounding too emo, I'm stopping right here. - twertyto, on 12/31/2008, -37/+186Really? Well said? Sounds to me like Kevin's way of saying "***** off".
- chesterjosiah, on 12/31/2008, -11/+149When you (and Kevin) say "JUST the internet", what you're trying to say is that we are putting too much value on it.
Who the hell are you to tell me what's important to me?
I spend a lot of time at Digg, and the reason I do is because Digg is *supposed* to be democratic. It *claims* to be user-generated, user-driven.
(For those of you who don't know who I am, I'm the HD-DVD encryption key guy, the one whose story got pulled at 15000+ diggs which caused the Digg revolt in May 2007).
Digg is a community, and I care about it. I hate the idea of leaving it because it got destroyed by 50 "power users". Excuse me for caring. - greeniemeani, on 12/31/2008, -23/+145I want to have an uprising about people not knowing how to ***** use "it's" or "you're" much more than whining over power Diggers.
- m3mn0n, on 12/31/2008, -1/+118Valid question.
- Chooxo, on 12/31/2008, -24/+128"Digger uprising"?
Bit of a dramatic term for having a little whine on a message thread, while continuing to use the site you claim to be rising up against, anyway.
Heck, most of you didn't even "rise up" from your computer seats. - scottinks, on 12/31/2008, -6/+105
"just the internet" has made you and your friends rich, Kevin - EarlofSlander, on 12/31/2008, -5/+102D2002, are you not one of the aforementioned power users? So this story is a bit self serving correct?
- InfamousAtheist, on 12/31/2008, -11/+99I agree with his sentiment, but I hope Kevin really intends to address some of the more glaring problems with the Digg algo. Blind digging and loads of dupes from the 'top' submitters really should be addressed.
However, anyone who loses sleep over MrBabyMan or pavelmah abusing the system, or makes personal attacks on the digg staff needs to take a step back and think about what's really important in life. I'm pretty sure the staff at digg works hard to make this site what it is, and we should be glad they're doing it. I know I am. - inactive, on 12/31/2008, -2/+88thumbs up for quoting me
- Tiak, on 12/31/2008, -9/+95Why the hell are you being dugg down pointing out the source of the image?...
- foolishwolf, on 12/31/2008, -11/+85http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/5214/seriousys0 ...
- inactive, on 12/31/2008, -8/+80This was the submission that mysteriously disappeared from the top 10 despite getting 2K+ diggs in a matter of hours.
- iskevinpgay, on 12/31/2008, -12/+80O - O - O - OOOOOOOO!!!!!! I just came all over my screen now that Kevin Rose has chastised us lowly users for being fed up with a site that is clearly in FAIL mode. You have 70 engineers who haven't fixed anything with the dupe problem or power user issues but have instead introduced "features" that have made it worse. Is this constructive enough ---- ***** YOU ROSE!
- arbysrocks, on 12/31/2008, -7/+74relax, don't take the internet so seriously
- slayersotaku, on 12/31/2008, -6/+72free porn
- andyb747, on 12/31/2008, -3/+63I saw this first on Reddit...
- Branchex, on 12/31/2008, -10/+68While some diggers can be pricks, most of us appreciate the work the Digg staff does and believe they are trying to make the site as great and fair as it can be. The frustration sets in when well known problems to many diggers have to be fought for in order to be seen. This site need the efforts of users to work and many have found those efforts unrewarded because of cheaters who exploit the system. This may just be the internet and people should stay calm and relaxed about it, users also know that it has the power to affect lives. You should really be worried when people start not to care.
- inactive, on 12/31/2008, -22/+79So basically, "***** off, it's the internet. Even though we have 70 employees constantly working to ensure a 'democracy' that exists only on paper, while we continue to profit."
- inactive, on 12/31/2008, -1/+58But without d2002, how would we see all those ***** god ***** awful comics that clutter the homepage? Without d2002, I would have never known that it was OK for a comic to never ever ever be funny.
- djparallax, on 12/31/2008, -2/+58@Kevin,
You should look at the writing on the wall. This issue is causing users to not want to use this site. Instead of being dismissive, you should actually consider what the user community is thinking and how it affects your business. Less users = less impressions = less ad revenue.
Your team is fine, no one here is really attacking your team. They're attacking the fact that the submission system is flawed due to users abusing their status.
Pffff... - darkheritage, on 12/31/2008, -2/+58Mom!... More Hotpockets!
- Bloodwine, on 12/31/2008, -5/+5970 or so engineers and they can't fix the jumping comment box?
- inactive, on 12/31/2008, -5/+59This Kevin guy obviously doesn't know the point of digg.
- vtbarrera, on 02/03/2009, -50/+103We all know digg has its fair share of issues, but at least Kevin and the digg staff are always working to make this a better place for everyone. Things aren't going to change overnight, but in the near future it looks like changes will indeed be made.
- inotocracy, on 12/31/2008, -5/+57How could this one be left out?
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j248/WPwrestler0 ... - d2002, on 12/31/2008, -4/+56You cannot submit anything from Digg.com.
- Navicerts, on 12/31/2008, -1/+52I do digg the stories I like and bury the stories I don't.
There are a lot more buried stories today than dugg stories. And even the stories I am digging are usually re-submitted by power users ultimately my digg for a good story submitted by a power user is causing 3x as much crap to hit the front page in the long run. Also, the "good" stories are somewhat relative to the total content so what a "good" story is today might have been a sub-par story a year ago.
I read a lot of good suggestions from the users about anonymous submissions or a "digg discussion" where a solution could be found based off a democratic response after all the comment digg's are still good (at least not gamed). But all I seem to read from the staff is that they are working on a better algorithm for duplicate detection (which I don't think will solve the problem), I don't have a lot of faith in this response. Don't get all sensitive on me because I criticized if I truly thought the developers were inept or the site was doomed I wouldn't be posting this.
With the main stream media in total shambles social networking sites are fairly serious business and often the only venu for a US citizen to actually get the news. I wish this wasn't the case. - liljay2k, on 12/31/2008, -6/+56He wouldn't be saying that if the masses of Digg moved away and diminished the popularity of 'his' site.
- inigomntoya, on 12/31/2008, -10/+60That's exactly what I heard when I read it too.
I think its funny that in the first few sentences he says how saddened he is by the comments. And then he tells everyone else to get over themselves.
"I'm saddened by what I read in this thread."
Don't take everything so seriously, Kevin. Its just the Internet... -
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