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dontevictjustin.weebly.com — Justin Kan, the star who's broadcasting his life live on Justin.tv, has received an eviction notice to vacate his Crystal Towers apartment in North Beach, San Francisco from Trinity Management. Why? We don't know. To make matters worse, people are getting their applications turned down to live in the building simply because they KNOW Justin!
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- CaptainNoPants, on 10/12/2007, -11/+25what a travesty!
- orbanj, on 10/12/2007, -4/+93HAHA! From Wikipedia:
Justin.tv has been the subject of many pranks. Because the site has openly released its call-in number, a user was able to spoof the caller ID on phone calls, using an IP Relay service. On March 21, 2007, a user called the San Francisco Police Department and filed a false report about a stabbing in the apartment. Hundreds of viewers witnessed two police officers literally breaking through the door of the apartment live, just minutes later. The following day, someone reported a fire at the apartment. Six firetrucks immediately responded, but because this occurred outside, it was not caught on camera. The San Francisco emergency services have since put Justin.tv's number on a list which requires a confirmation call before responding to any emergencies.[5] Justin has since changed his number, and has not announced the new one publicly. - SIRBERUS, on 10/12/2007, -2/+80It may not be completely an "act of evil" or a "travesty".
You have to remember that the landlords are in it to make money, and they have other clients to please...
Now take into consideration the fact that fans of Justin's show have already had police raid his house after spoofing his number to 911.
Justin is, technically, bringing a disruption and even potential danger to the complex.
I'm not saying I agree with it, I'm just pointing out the possible reason for him, or anyone that knows him, not being wanted there.
Edit: yea, what orbanj said is an example of the unwanted attention the landlords have to deal with. - hdtvdust, on 10/12/2007, -17/+6At least Justin CLAIMS his number was spoofed. The verdict is still out on that one. Many people think he did it himself for publicity and claimed it was spoofed to avoid trouble.
- miketrash, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20video of the police prank orbanj mentioned here ( if this link works. it doesn't half the time)
http://www.justin.tv/blog/list/2007-3-21T1:40:0
or if thats down really ***** quality video here.
http://ideaindustries.net/archive/2007/03/21/justin-tv-and-their-ongoing-battle-with-griefers.aspx - SIRBERUS, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16@hdtvdust
Whatever the case, I always try to view things from both sides... and whether it was him or a fan... it is things like that which can disrupt other tenants and even potentially make life harder for the owners in regards to liability and insurance.
They aren't, as far as I know, getting paid any extra to have Justin stay there, so, if you were in their shoes, why would you take on extra liability and risk your own well being if you can get another tenant who will not be as much of a disturbance?
While I don't think Justin should be evicted... I do also respect, if this is the reasoning, the owners right to protect themselves. - ninesquaredis81, on 10/12/2007, -14/+3@SIRBERUS - that may explain why they want to evict Justin, but what justification do they have for rejecting rental applications of all of Justin's "associates"? 4 friends of mine who have met Justin, but by no means are close friends of his, are homeless right now and are sleeping in my spare room. After a week of hearing they were going to be able to move in to this apartment building they were rejected at the last minute for admitting they had met Justin in a professional setting. I think this is completely inexplicable and probably illegal.
- tituspullo71, on 10/12/2007, -5/+42who cares!
- SIRBERUS, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10@ninesquaredis81
First let me just say that I am just playing both sides of the card... if the law favors Justin, then so be it. If it favors the owners, so be it.
With that said... in response to your question about his friends... it sounds like they are being extra cautious to make sure Justin is kept out. Is it right? No. Is it legal? I don't know. It might be.
I'm no lawyer, but while there is of course laws to protect consumers/renters, I assume there must be laws and regulations to protect business operators. If they are truly looking to rid themselves of Justin, the most efficient way to do so is to not allow any of his friends to rent either (because the immediate assumption is that a friend of Justin's would mean having Justin visit).
To me, this sounds like a company that is desperately trying to put all games aside and make sure they don't have to deal with someone.
I know the website labels the owners as "slumlords", and they very well might be, but if I put myself into the shoes of the owners... I can see myself doing the same thing. And why wouldn't I? Again... why would I take extra risk and liability without any reason? I for one would rather not gamble my well being, and perhaps my families, on a tenant who is worth no more than any other.
You sound like you know Justin... did he or anyone else ever attempt to negotiate some sort of sponsorship or advertising deal with the owners? Or give them some reason to want to assume the new risks?
I love Justin.TV, and I think Justin is awesome... and I hope if he's reading this he doesn't hate me.
But as much as I love watching Justin.TV, if I was the owner of his building and I watched the episode where the cops bust in with guns drawn... I would find it hard to sleep. - SIRBERUS, on 10/12/2007, -7/+4...I hate to turn this into an essay, but just to add a final thought...
Justin.TV is a new and revolutionary concept. But it is the concept and idea of Justin which involves him broadcasting his life 24/7, and being completely vulnerable to his viewers. Likewise, the consequences that come with this concept belong solely to Justin. So if consequences of Justin's new venture begin to seep into the lives of others... they have the right to protect their way of life just as much as Justin.
And I'm still curious if Justin ever made an effort to speak with the owners. I would say it would be almost inconsiderate of him not to inform the owners of the building about his project and attempt to seek their approval. I'm not speaking legally as much as I am just courtesy-wise.
I sure would have appreciated it, if I was the owner, if Justin had come to me and talked something out.
Then again he might have... I don't know. - orabox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This should boost the ratings a bit.
- Humptydank, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2
Star? - diggcopblowme, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Current California landlord/tenant laws heavily favor tenents.
You can easily squat (live there without paying rent) for 6 months in an SF apartment before the cops actually MAKE you leave. If Justin has paid his rent on time and is merely the target of pranks, he can literally fight an unlawful detainer (eviction) notice for years. - bariswheel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22Who's Justin?
- higgs, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2@SIRBERUS
Dug down for thinking this tripe "is a new and revolutionary concept." - Res1st, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I agree with "SIRBERUS" but at the same time I don't understand why the landlord wants to get rid of possibly the best marketing idea ever? Justin is advertising the apartment. Why would someone that is getting tons of advertisement want to do this? Its just doesn't make any sense.
- EmperorAwesome, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I read the title and clicked, hoping that they were talking about Justin Long. Snide little *****.
- cliffzdude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Taggar and others would like to sue building management. But two attorneys who specialize in landlord-tenant law in San Francisco agree they don't have much of a case. Landlords cannot discriminate on the basis of religion, sexual orientation or race, but there is little protection for personal or professional connections to those considered problem tenants."
- orbanj, on 10/12/2007, -4/+93HAHA! From Wikipedia:
- sneakeykop, on 10/12/2007, -7/+60Justin being homeless and looking for a place to live, would be alot more interesting than what he's shown us so far...
- robalesi, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2I wonder if his landlord's name is Pearl.
WHERE'S THE RENT!!!???.... YOU PAY NOW!!!!!
- robalesi, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2I wonder if his landlord's name is Pearl.
- wizardElite, on 10/12/2007, -11/+6I just want ijustine to comeback.
- ngonzales80, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14For those who haven't seen ijustine
http://www.flickr.com/photos/27403767@N00/464263610/ - smartalecks, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5http://tastyblogsnack.com/
is her blog - lolx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16very nice... how much?
- ngonzales80, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14For those who haven't seen ijustine
- GoogleInc, on 10/12/2007, -11/+6FIGHT THEM! How many people watch that are lawyers?
- hdtvdust, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14Considering very few people watch at all, probably none. And the apartment complex is WELL within its rights to do it.
- NachoBusiness, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Well the apartment owners do own the place... they have some right to decide who lives there, believe it or not. Generally speaking, you can evict someone legally for any reason unless they're under lease and not violating it (and if they legitimately are under lease, I can't imagine anyone would be dumb enough to try evicting them). If you're just doing it for personal reasons, you might owe them relocation costs.
- mzwaterski, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3He has likely violated at least one of the nuisance avoidance type provisions that are in most leases.
- srx74, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5Justin should fight it all the way!
- orbanj, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12I haven't seen this before. Can anyone explain how he manages to get such a good feed up no matter where he goes?
...and has he done anything exciting yet? like banged 'ijustine'?
edit: he just said on the camera that the 'delay' is 3 seconds. WTF how? - Area51mafia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7orbani:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin.tv#Technical_details
Might explain it a little bit. - jcapogna, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I think I heard something about having dual EVDO cards streaming the video.
- orbanj, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12I haven't seen this before. Can anyone explain how he manages to get such a good feed up no matter where he goes?
- calnev, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0Wow I did not know they were such slumlords. He should go to Golden Gateway Apts they are really nice and not that far from where he is now.
- Limezor, on 10/12/2007, -7/+0I, also, want to know how Justin does this. Does he have a super-powered antenna on top of his camera? Or does he have someone follow him with a laptop with wi-fi...
Also: they should be taking advantage of Justin, not evicting him... - jsdratm, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4Justin is a loser anyways
- freynco, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4was i the only one hoping it was timberlake?
- jcaino, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2ijustine's myspace page:
http://www..myspace.com/ijustine
she's one of my 'friends' as a fellow pittsburgher...and my sister is in the broadcast/news field (wtov9.com)- iamsam28T, on 10/12/2007, -7/+3http://www.myspace.com/ijustine
There, I fixed it for you. And shame on you web-savy digg users. Digging him down because he put an extra dot in the address.. Give the man a break. - ngonzales80, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1No. We dugg him down because it's the wrong ijustine.
- iamsam28T, on 10/12/2007, -7/+3http://www.myspace.com/ijustine
- GeneralChang, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10probably because there are 3 dudes living in a 2 bedroom apt. with a live internet show being broadcast. and theres probably a ton of webtards flooding that place up with fake pizza or cop calls. people probably also complained about the media circus living in that building.
- hdtvdust, on 10/12/2007, -8/+7Media circus? Yeah, because it is not like 99.99999% of the country has ever HEARD of him, or ever will.
- smartalecks, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3I dunno about that hdtv. His site has been reported about on NPR many times, as well as a few other news stations..
- ninesquaredis81, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3not to mention, he was on the Today show
- Gravedigger2000, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2And Nightline... as well as being mentioned on TWIT....
people have heard of him.
Dammit.. that reminds me of The Game...
Damn
- Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -9/+5Oh dear me, a blogger suffers and the Internet listens. I need to start one of these things, you know, where I tell people about my dirty underwear and what kind of boogers I'm picking out of my nose today.
- smartalecks, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2I dunno why you are being such a douche about this. The man is being wrongly evicted from his home, which is galaxies in difference in comparison to having dirty underwear.
Plus, as far as I know, Justin hasn't said anything about it yet...
- smartalecks, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2I dunno why you are being such a douche about this. The man is being wrongly evicted from his home, which is galaxies in difference in comparison to having dirty underwear.
- Glauck006, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21It might be a stipulation in his lease that he can't run a business out of the rented apartment, so that could be a valid reason.
- mach32, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Bingo!
- olik, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6ARRRAAHAHAH! Where is that damn music coming from?!? It's in my head and it won't go away!
- DesignEx, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Buried for that exact reason. I thought audio on websites was a 90s fad.
- lifeat24fps, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Maybe it's the bad hip-hop DJing parties in the apartment upstairs ("I don't give a fuuuuuuccccccck").
- Scheissen, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2It's still interesting. Like when he has his friends over playing games.
- NachoBusiness, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Ah yes, the internet. Where instead of having your own friends over to play games, you can watch someone else have their friends over to play games.
- sulaco, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Who cares?
- macbookpromat, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Ima set that building on fire. Although, I'm way too drunk to do so.
- acceptab1euname, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Try setting yourself on fire instead, so none of us have to read another one of those posts.
- nekoinu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14If I lived in the same apartment, I'd probably want him evicted for the noise and bringing many different people home.
Though I'm quite sure the landlord can evict him, he might not like it but quite simply he is running a business (Justin.tv INC) from a residence not zoned for business. - orabox, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2I would almost call BS on his place being in north beach, looks like fisherman's wharf or Nob Hill
- JonnyTrombone, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9Some guy who no one has heard of is getting kicked out of his apartment- and it makes digg because he has a webcam? Wow.
- scronline, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2This is to quote a comedian that a friend of mine told me about once. Of course I'm sure the quote is correct, I just don't know the name of the person that said it so I can't give them props.
"San Francisco is the most progressive city in the entire United States. The only thing they aren't progressive about is progress."
'nough said. - specimenq5, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1The only shocking thing I've found about this is that people actually WATCH that - there are FANS!
I don't get it. - heebdaddy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1faggggottttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt!
- doctorweird, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2PWNED!! HAHAHAHAHA!!
- doctorweird, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Maybe the landlords think he might pull a Seung-Hui Cho in the apartment building.
- scottjw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6You mean he might go Cho-stal ?
- viclazlo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1obligatory eye wood hit iJustine comment.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ijustine/355057890/in/set-72157594498030817/
http://www.tastyblogsnack.com/ - nickerj1, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0Who cares?
- MasterDwarf, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Please tell me that I am not the only one NOT watching this 'show'.
- offspring06, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Your not the only one.
- MasterDwarf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Thank god.
- drbogo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1what a *****
- lukychmz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1who the hell is justin?
- RobotCitizen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1It's not Justin's fault, it's the ***** pulling these pranks.
- lodave, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Technically, according to the City plat maps the apartments are on Russian Hill, being west of Mason St., though the location might be considered North Beach, North Waterfront or Fisherman's Wharf, and the differentiations are blurred, particularly by the Real Estate Industry! As to Trinity's case:
There have been numerous complaints about late-night loud parties, raucous comings & goings, using the pool after 9 PM, (including parties) and as late as 4:30 AM. Many neighbors have complained many times.
The argument about business being operated is specious because the building has long been predominately corporate rentals, both short and long term. Not to stick up for Trinity (au contraire!), but it is the other tenants and the neighbors who want Justin.tv OUT! Incidentally Trinity Properties is anything but a slumlord, and in fact is more "guilty" of gentrification via high rents & improvements than anything else.
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