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techcrunch.com — Search any of a number of versions of the Bible with eBible by keyword .eBible pulls additional information relevant to your query from a library of Bible reference sites, such as dictionaries, topicals, encyclopedias, handbooks, etc. (currently in private beta).

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  • scratchpd, on 10/12/2007, -7/+7I hope they will sell those "eBible / All Access" badges somewhere on the site. Jesus would want us to look cool.. lol
    (btw title says "alpha", badge says "beta". ha, i always thought the good word was confusing.)
    • Cputerace, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15http://www.ebible.com for the direct link
    • gronne, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1For a second there I thought the sites name was "TechCrutch" and that made my morning.
    • tzmguitarist, on 10/12/2007, -9/+7This is why I love digg - you can knock Bush and you can knock religion - but don't mess with Jesus or the Bible. Word.
    • crimsonalucard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@tzmguitarist
      Don't mess with macs or ninetendo either. You will be slaughtered.
  • zoltan, on 10/12/2007, -9/+42i always thouhgt there was a decent jesus fan base here on digg ;)
    • saehn, on 10/12/2007, -18/+4beanlover:

      "Any religion generally sucks and seeks to control/manipulate humans in some form"

      (my religion) "is about" (my religion's belief #1) "and" (my religion's belief #2)

      "A lot of the other crap is man misinterpreting what" (my religion's holy book) "says."

      "Disclaimer: I am a" (member of my religion, which generally sucks and seeks to control/manipulate humans in some form)
    • adamriggins, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3I'm with Beanlover.
    • Beanlover, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8@ saehn

      You missed the point of my comment. I am stating that Christianity is having a personal relationship with Jesus and NOT about the religion it is viewed as today. Are there religious aspects to Christianity? Yes. Will you understand them without the perosonal relationship with Jesus? Probably not.

      Your refactoring of my comment may apply to other religions but it fails here.
    • yahoofrom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I are a fan.
    • kozie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Fans!
  • smilespray, on 10/12/2007, -41/+11Is there an Undigg button anywhere on this site?
  • Nameless1, on 10/12/2007, -46/+27As the immortal words of someone say - I don't hate god, I just dislike his fan club.
    There! Ive said it! I hate religion - so go ahead and bury this comment so that you could make love with Jesus in heaven!
    • Beanlover, on 10/12/2007, -14/+70Any religion generally sucks and seeks to control/manipulate humans in some form

      Christianity is about having a personal relationship with Jesus and accepting His work on the cross for you.

      A lot of the other crap is man misinterpreting what the Bible says.

      Disclaimer: I am a Christian.
    • JQP123, on 10/12/2007, -28/+10"A lot of the other crap is man misinterpreting what the Bible says."

      God can't be all powerful because he obviously lacks the ability to communicate clearly.

      The Bible contains the collective wisdom of the people who wrote it. If you bother to study it (rather than just read selected parts of it) you'll see that it also contains their collective ignorance and vanity. For example, the Jews are God's chosen people. Do you honestly believe that an all powerful God would be so petty? According to the Bible, we're all descended from Adam and Eve so what defines a Jew anyway?

      Sorry, but the Bible is *exactly* what I would expect as the word of *man*. Not at all what I would expect from an all powerful God. As I think Carl Sagan said, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof". On this count, the Bible fails.
    • Beanlover, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Then you aren't looking hard enough. Reading the Bible apart from the relationship with the Author is like reading someone else's mail and complaining about it because you don't understand the context. You can learn ABOUT the people involved with the correspondence but until you know them personally it won't make complete sense.
    • dkarlson, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9JQP123 -- There are many, many books out there written by folks who are much smarter than I (and possibly you, too) who've researched the Bible and its claims -- and they have overwhelming proof that what the Bible says is true (I'm referring to the New Testament). The Old Testament is a collection of books written over thousands of years that chronicle the history of the Jewish people. Some stories, like the Creation, aren't meant to be taken literally. God didn't create the world in 6 24-hour days. God is infinite, and therefore not bounded by time. A day to God could be millions and millions of years to us. And, by the way, Adam and Eve weren't Jewish. The Jewish bloodline started with Abraham.
    • JQP123, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2"And, by the way, Adam and Eve weren't Jewish. The Jewish bloodline started with Abraham."

      The focus on bloodlines, inheritance and destiny is just another example of how the Bible fails the test as "word of God" in my opinion. Do you honestly believe that a just and moral God would pass covenants and curses on to successive generations? If so, then you must believe that Africans were destined to be slaves as carriers of the "curse of Ham".
    • pgoowy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3JQP123
      "According to the Bible, we're all descended from Adam and Eve so what defines a Jew anyway?"

      Dude, read the Bible, it says that God created the Jews when he miraculously gave his friend Abraham a son called Isaac. He didn't choose the Jews, he made them so that they might become a blessing to all nations - by showing them how to live and then through Jesus paying for everyone's sin so that we can be free from it.
    • JQP123, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2"... it says that God created the Jews when he miraculously gave his friend Abraham a son called Isaac."

      Yes, yes according to the story the Jews are special but then again, the Jews are the source for the story. Gotta love those circular references. Again, isn't this *exactly* the sort of thing you'd expect if *man* were creating his own religion? If I were creating my own religion, I'd make myself special too. Wouldn't you?
    • percyhanna, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I hate religion too. I'm a Christian. I know a lot of people who are like this. Here's another one for you: I'm a Christian. I don't like Bush. (I'm not American though, so that's probably not a huge surprise...)
  • gimmezell, on 10/12/2007, -28/+2If there is an Undigg button is there a Redigg button anywhere?
  • Darren07, on 10/12/2007, -29/+15the bible and technology? how does that fit together?
    • HarryBauzonia, on 10/12/2007, -5/+30It's an eBible. Pay attention.
    • viscid, on 10/12/2007, -5/+20"the bible and technology? how does that fit together?"
      More than you may realize, churches in general are in many ways competing with the MTV generation, so to teach/preach the Bible churches need to be more culturally relevant and that usually includes technology.
      I actually started a site to try and help churches and ministries in this area since many do not have the resources (people or money) in the technology area. http://www.ministrytech.net
    • Nameless1, on 10/12/2007, -23/+6Frankly i see no contest. You can either go and find faith and relieve yourself of your material goods to the church, or you can go under some bridge and do drugs.

      I say drugs!
    • Shalabi, on 10/12/2007, -21/+8Exactly.

      If you disagree, please look up how religious zealots believed/believes:

      -The Earth being the center of the universe
      -The Earth being flat
      -The Earth being 6000 years old
      -Man living with dinosaurs
      -Evolution
    • PowerCow, on 10/12/2007, -16/+4http://102164330047/diggden00ber.user.js
      if you hate politics and religion on digg get this script
      lets you enter in keywords like bush or jesus and never have to complain in aanother story about it not being tech
    • ModernTenshi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10I've always wanted to get my hands on a PocketPC and get some sort of application that serves as a Bible on it. Not only would it likely get me to read it more, but it would be one cool Bible. Immagine going to Bible study, instructor tells you to pull out your Bible, and you whip out a PDA! Bet you could find any piece of scripture in the Bible faster than everyone else (unless they already know it by heart).

      And Christians don't look down on technology. The church I go to is heavy into tech, with Macs all over the place, Keynote used for putting scripture and other items on a big screen for sermons, and a lot more. Christians are open to just about anything, and if possible will try and find a way to use it to serve God and his purpose for us.
    • snoop, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8There is an application for the PDA (running windows anyway). http://www.e-sword.net/pocketpc/downloads.html
      Very good, i must say.
    • ketsugi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Where PocketPC Bible software is concerned I have to recommend Laridian's PocketBible http://laridian.com

      It's not as cheap as eSword (duh!) but it's good solid software and very useful.
    • tvor, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Hey everyone,

      I'm a developer over at the company where eBible.com is being developed. One of our other products is called eBible for PDA which is Bible-based software for Palm OS and Pocket PC. We have a special offer for 20% off all software and content at http://www.ebiblepda.com/?source=digg
      The coupon code is: DIGG
  • Klisk, on 10/12/2007, -36/+7Hail satan? Huh?

    Just kidding, this is just dumb.
  • night141, on 10/12/2007, -38/+8O jeez, this made the front page. Let the faggotry commence.
  • barberouge, on 10/12/2007, -42/+12Please no religious crap, we are not all chrisitans
    • elhammond, on 10/12/2007, -8/+59We are not all atheists either.
    • theundone, on 10/12/2007, -5/+26We are not all evolutionists either and there are plenty of those stories submitted. What then?

      ...seems hammdogg beat me to it :-)
    • vvaduva, on 10/12/2007, -13/+14We don't all kill unborn babies and vote for Democrats, and there is no shortage of these stories around...
    • ModernTenshi, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9What does voting for Democrat have to do with not being Christian? I'm a Christian, and I voted for Kerry in the last election, and fall more in line with the views of Democrats than Republicans. Not everything in politics is made on a religous basis.
    • panicofficer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10If you don't like the Bible or the God it represents, then you can simply choose not to click on a story about it. Unless, of course, you prefer to bash someone else's belief. So much for tolerance. We all like different things and many people believe different things. I don't bash stories about stuff that I consider nonsense; I simply choose not to digg or comment. When everybody does that, stupid stories die. I personally think a new and improved E-Bible is going to be great! Digg!
  • elhammond, on 10/12/2007, -13/+28I've been waiting for a sweet online Bible, I'm a Youth Pastor and this is going to be extremely useful.
    • tommajor, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12shameless plug... but heres another cool one...
      http://wikible.org
    • vvaduva, on 10/12/2007, -7/+8One of the coolest Bible tools I have ever found was the free tool called ISA - Interlinear Scripture Analyzer written by Andre de Mol - it even runs on WINE under Linux and it contains both Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia and the Authorized Version - definitely worth checking out:

      http://www.scripture4all.org/
    • dkarlson, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6BibleGateway.com -- good stuff. Many translations, many languages, keyword search, etc and etc. Great for research, personal study, writing sermons, etc.
    • mumeishi, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2BibleGateway http://www.biblegateway.com is great, Blue Letter Bible http://www.blueletterbible.org isn't bad either.
    • postapoc, on 10/12/2007, -12/+1I have found this is the best.
      A List of Biblical Contradictions
      http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html
    • fugitivALiEN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Those solid as stone "inaccuracies" are open to interpretation as well...
    • fugitivALiEN, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2All of the "contradictions" that i read aren't contradictions but retelling the same incident to fully expand the idea.

      ie: Did those with Saul/Paul at his conversion hear a voice?
      ACTS 9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.
      ACTS 22:9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.

      They "heard" the voice but did not "listen" to the message the voice was saying, as in "they heard not the voice". Read another translation the olden english weirdiositites are dropped. Try the New Living Translation, the message is still the same.
  • thefirelane, on 10/12/2007, -36/+5Post below in this thread... Your favorite Bible Versus so we can all search.

    I'll start: leviticus 19:19
    If you wear cloaths made from two types of fabric you are damned!

    --------------------------------
    http://prube.com - like digg, but with less point
    • gert2, on 10/12/2007, -7/+18Dude. That's for the Jews. Jesus abolished the those laws. I eat pork too.
    • cbenard, on 10/12/2007, -9/+7Gert2, that's wrong...

      From Matthew 5: (this is Jesus talking)
      17"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

      And then Luke 16:17:
      It is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for the least stroke of a pen to drop out of the Law.

      Take that "Moderate" Christianity.
    • SL33PY, on 10/12/2007, -15/+3please stop quoting a book that has been raped by interpretations for 2000 years and make it sound like everything in it is the truth and nothing but the truth.
    • thefirelane, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5@gert

      I agree, these laws are dumb.... but isn't leviticus where people find the verse where god says being gay is an 'abomination'. (right near where he says eating shellfish is an 'abomination also).

      Does your same logic apply to being gay as well?
      Also, as was pointed out, didn't Christ say those rules still apply.

      Even though my comment got undug, I think the point still stands: it is important people know these versus so that 'bible literalism' can be seen for what it is
    • Juicey, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0I love it when people take single scriptures out of context. 1) it means they don't know what they are talking about 2) that's probably the only text from the Bible they know.

      cbernard you're a jackass and you obviously need to think before you speak, or should I say think for yourself as you've obviously allowed some idiot to put an idea in your head without first checking other parts of the Bible. But of course most people who don't believe in God haven't even bothered to read the Bible.

      Don't forget it was Jesus working miracles on the day of rest. The Law says not to work on the day of rest. So now does this mean Jesus was going against God since he didn't come to abolish the Law?

      Actually Jesus is talking about the SPIRIT of the Law rather than the LETTER of the law. And while Jesus was born under the Old Testament law his sacrifice was the ultimate pure sacrifice, which is why we don't kill goats and bulls etc when we sin, although you may based on your current logic.

      I could write more but you probably wouldn't have the attention span to read it. Do a Google search and see what you find. Heck, maybe even READ the Bible.



    • Beanlover, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Jesus didn't abolish those laws...he fulfilled them. The ten commandments were put into place to show that man, of his own volition, could not make it back to God (having fallen when Adam and Eve sinned in the garden).

      When Jesus came to earth as a man he fulfilled every one of those commandments (the annotations made by the religious sects of the time not-withstanding). So when He died on the cross and decended into hell there was no legal basis for Him to actually have to go there BECAUSE he fulfilled every commandment. That made the way for Him to triumph over evil (Satan) and allow for all of us to access God through his work.
    • Beanlover, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@ Juicey

      Yeah...I love reading about how Jesus went around basically pwning the "religious leaders" of the day by following the commandments as they were intended to be followed and NOT how they interpreted them. He always did it so succinctly too: "The sabbath was made for man, not man for the sabbath." How I wish he would have added "PWNED!1!" to the end of his comments sometimes...but that wasn't His style.
    • mumeishi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Juicey, check the SPIRIT of your comments. There are honest, legitimate differences between Christians, and it does no one any good to get up on your high horse and shout down those who disagree with you. I happen to lean towards your side of the argument in most cases, but it's hard to dismiss out-of-hand all literal readings. cbernard has a point about Matthew and the Law; it was written primarily to Jewish Christians in Jerusalem and, for them, the Law was important. Matthew is stressing that Christ's role was to fulfill the Law, not to tear it down. Luke was writing historically, probably from Rome, John was probably writing to capture his years of reflection on the Love of the Creator expressed in Christ, and so on. Hence the different flavors of the four Gospels and the struggles within Christian churches that Paul addresses in his letters.

      Obligatory eBible tie-in - BibleGateway is good and I hope eBible makes it easier to build customized side-by-side comparisons of verses from several translations. It will be interesting to see if and how they integrate parallel Greek and Hebrew readings.
  • monergism, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18I don't' see a specific review by Jesus, This headline is incorrect but it is sensational and provocative and that's what drives Digg.

    I've been using www.blueletterbible.org], a bit clunky looking but VERY effective and loaded with resources.
    • adam84a, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5I really like BlueLetterBible, especially the webmaster tools they have.
    • GiggleStick, on 10/12/2007, -7/+3>> I don't' see a specific review by Jesus

      When he's done with the lawn I'll ask him to take a look....
  • fullcollapse, on 10/12/2007, -18/+6JESUS IS MY HOMEBOY..

    /end of discussion
  • thejohnomalley, on 10/12/2007, -11/+23Digg the Bible
  • Darren07, on 10/12/2007, -27/+7My car-sticker reads DARWIN!
    • crythias, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17Evolution must exist! Now, even car-stickers can read! :)
    • mumeishi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Car-stickers are evolving, I guess. I've seen some eating Darwin stickers.
  • dainbramage559, on 10/12/2007, -18/+2wrong thing, sorry. bury
  • theundone, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9I'll have to look into this one. I've been using www.biblegateway.com for awhile.
    • finalWord, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8Yeah, Gateway's good. It'll depend on the cross-referencing capability as to how much I'd use it. Certainly, that would be a great feature.
  • Klisk, on 10/12/2007, -19/+6I went to catholic school. The Catholic religion is a good idea, but it's awful and evil in practice. Most of it is manipulative *****.

    At this point, I'm with Satan. Not that I believe in Satan, no... It's just that I want to see how quickly I can get -50 diggs for having an honest opinion about a fairytale religion. So Hail Satan! (This is called tongue-in-cheek humor, y'see...)

    To quote Howard Stern, "Believing in religion is a psychological disorder."
  • snoop, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9Hope its got NIV, i dont understand why a bible society will not let one specific version be used in various places simply because they want to make money. Its a very easy to read and understand version too.

    Edit: Doesnt seem to have NIV in the screenshot on TechCrunch ;(
    • jarsonic, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11It doesn't have the NIV yet, or the ESV. From the looks of the screenshot in the linked article, it looks like it currently has the New Century Translation, the King James Version, the Message, the New King James Version, and the New American Standard. In their message board, it seems like they're working on getting new translations in addition. Licensing issues are a pain. ;)

      I'd appreciate having the ESV (English Standard Version, word-for-word translation) or at least the NIV (New International Version, phrase-for-phrase translation) available for reference. Until then, I'll probably just use Bible Gateway.
    • snoop, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Licensing should'nt be a pain. Thats whats so wrong about it..
  • Mach5, on 10/12/2007, -29/+11wow, cool, fiction available online for free!
  • gr8one, on 10/12/2007, -11/+14It's nice to see a religious site on top of current technology for once. I'm really tired of seeing religious sites that use modern technology like frames and animated gifs. Good for them. Hooray for Jesus-tech. --btw, I am a Christian too so don't think I'm just bashing religion.
  • bluehouse, on 10/12/2007, -7/+10Does he still love me too?
  • SL33PY, on 10/12/2007, -15/+5I'll probable be burried for this, but I don't see what the big technological news of this item is...
    • jarsonic, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7As someone mentioned above, I think it's noteworthy mainly for the Web 2.0-ish features that it uses. Validated XHTML, CSS, AJAX - it's just updating a tool that a lot of people might use. Less clunky and more features never translates to a bad thing.
    • SL33PY, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3@jarsonic
      which could be interpreted as: if you find any web2.0 site that looks half decent post it in here

      I can't help but get the feeling: Been there, dugg that, read the comments

      ps i didn't vote on your comment
      ps2 I really hate the term web 2.0, it sounds like someone invented a new 'intarweb' instead of using existing technologies to improve user experience
  • plue2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12This doesn't need to be a religous discussion!!
    Article focuses on technology, and that's what I've considered here. Fairly interesting as a matter of fact. Powerful search, related topic finds, and discussion methods seem fairly useful here. If I was a christian I'd consider this a valuable tool, but I would love to see this kind of technology move to text books and reference books. Like Wiki for specific entire books! Not to bad. Dugg by a non-christian, and shame on all you trying to use the story as a soap box for your religous ramblings.
    • masterwont0n, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"Dugg by a non-christian, and shame on all you trying to use the story as a soap box for your religous ramblings."

      I am I Christian and i agree with you completey. The internet is no place to convert people to Christainty. Sure it can be done, but its not the best way to do it. Cramming facts and Bible quotes down people's throughts doesnt work. That not how Jesus did it so why are we doing it that way?
    • Nameless1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2@The last poster

      Those are the wisest words from a bible cruncher i have ever heard!
  • robowash, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7The ESV has a killer online bible:

    http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/

    They've also got a Firefox search plugin and a blog.
    • jarsonic, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3Agreed. They've also gotten on the train in terms of being savvy on the web, with tools to incorporate on personal websites (verse of the day, etc.).
    • buck09, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3The ESV Bible also has an RSS feed. They have been web 2.0 since before web 2.0.
    • snoop, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3its a very good translation. And the rss feeds are great.
  • vvaduva, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7And just as an FYI - for those out there interested in online Bibles, there is an Open Bible Project going on which is a Wiki-based project to create a free study Bible for the masses: http://openbibleproject.org

    • tommajor, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2there's other similar projects that are somewhat larger...
      http://wikible.org for example

      but the open bible project looks good
  • McNamron, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14So, then, my disciples, go forth and spread the word. And in so doing, use gradients fading from solid to white and graphics simulating shiny plastic surfaces, liberally apply Ajax-y effects, and above all, do unto others as you would have the Web 2.0 do unto you.

    Amen; go in peace.
  • tommajor, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7I'm a Christian myself and am excited that there is a new tool, but I'm not sure I'd like to digg something blasphemous like this title. In fact I will rate it down for that. There is too much of either anti-Christian stuff going around, or if it is related to Christianity, it's mocked.

    And everyone wants to be nice to the muslims.... but they forget the people that founded this country.
    • Nameless1, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2The ritch and powerfull?
    • cbeach, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4How is the title blasphemous? You probably don't understand that it's tongue-in-cheek, but nevermind anyway - who's to say Jesus wouldn't embrace modern technology?

      I won't comment on your narrow-minded xenophobic rant about muslim people...
    • tommajor, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1I think we should be careful what words we put in Jesus mouth is all. Even if it wasn't meant to be serious... it encourages certain stereotypes about Jesus and Christianity.
    • plue2, on 10/12/2007, -8/+61) There's no need to announce your religion in these comments or this site entirely. It is not crucial, influential or relevant to any news on this site. If it is relevant to the comments your leaving, then more than likely, they are not very important comments, and they make others feel uncomfortable which is no fair.

      2) I have NEVER seen anything anti-Christian on this site, and I am endowed with a FURIOUS anger when people don't see a seperation in anti-Christian, and non-Christian.

      3) I wasn't going to touch your muslim comment much, it's too ignorant, but I have to say this: FIRST you're not on an american website, you're on a world wide website, dont say "this country" SECOND the founders of "this country" (America people, but you knew that, only we self centered Americans refer to "this country" in a world wide outlet) founded this country because they realized that people who consider wordly objectives that must be considered with mixed company should not bring there religion into the debate, to make more sound decisions based on the reality presented to us, and you have disgraced them.
      Better read this before you bury it.
    • cbeach, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4tommajor: "I think we should be careful what words we put in Jesus mouth is all. Even if it wasn't meant to be serious... it encourages certain stereotypes about Jesus and Christianity."

      Stereotypes about Christianity? Like the fact it's a laughing stock of outdated dogma and old-fashioned thinking, you mean? And I wouldn't restrict my comment to Christianity. All mainstream religions share the same ridiculous superstition
    • viable, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2cbeach:

      You certainly seem to be a scholar on ALL religions.

      *Sarcasm*
  • archiloco, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0839/_INDEX.HTM

    this one is awesome
  • kleedrac, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6All right then, is there any way we can get some invites floating around :)
  • cbeach, on 10/12/2007, -14/+2eBible.com: "We are swell, honest folk who promise not to spam you ..."

    Lol, "swell" - there's a word you won't have heard in 50 years! I love that christians are not just out-of-date in their ideas, but also in their language :-)
    • viable, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Lol, "swell" - there's a word you won't have heard in 50 years! I love that christians are not just out-of-date in their ideas, but also in their language :-)

      There's a difference between having a sense of humor and being out of date. I always thought bigotry was out of date.
  • wthnow, on 10/12/2007, -7/+13I find it sad that many people are unwilling to give Christianity a chance out of all the major religions its the only one I know of where God made a sacrifice for you and out of what He did for you you thank and have a relationship for him. No other religion is like that. Its too bad the media and pop culture seem to want to tear down Christianity. You dont have to be conservative to be Christian its not about that you dont have to be Catholic all it comes down to is a relationship with God and forgiveness for the errors you've made in life. That's all its about.
    • cbeach, on 10/12/2007, -12/+5Oh dear..here we go: "My religion is better than yours" etc etc ...KABOOM
    • Nameless1, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2Oh my god! Some guy died 2000 years ago, whilst being stabbed to a cross! Wow, everyone made a ***** out of it!
      Somehow in the time it took me to write this sentence, some guy in Africa died from famine and hunger, and he allso died for our sins of greed. , but nobody cares.
      Are you implying that the life of Jesus is more important than the life of any other human being?
    • Ensnared, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"I find it sad that many people are unwilling to give Christianity a chance"

      You, as so many before - and after - you simply fail to see the point. People can't just wake up one morning and say "Gee, I'm gonna become religious today", or "Gee, I'm gonna start worshipping a different divine entity today" any more than they can wake up and say "Gee, my car is made of icecream". Believing in any god is about something, whatever it is, at some point having convinved you it's the truth. Most people who aren't religious didn't choose not to be religious, we (yes, I'm one of them) simply never saw, heard of felt anything that convinced us otherwise - quite the contrary, there are too many things convincing us it's _not_ true. And until something happens that will show me that I'm wrong, there's no chance I'll ever believe otherwise. There's nothing that tells us any of these gods exists, so therefore we simply _cannot_ believe. Being willing or not has nothing to do with it.

      It's really is that simple. I'd love to give "it" a chance, because religious people (except perhaps the zealots) seem to have an inner peace that I - and many like me - don't have. But for that to be possible, something has to show me "it" is real, just like my car actually has to start tasting good and melting in the sun if I am to believe it is made of icecream.
    • mumeishi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Ensnared, thanks for adding a great, honest comment. What you say about "I wanna, but gotta taste the ice cream first" is kinda frustrating to those of us who already do, but it's entirely understandable. In my experience, most who don't believe but end up believing get there by studying with an open mind. Anne Rice is just one example, as is CS Lewis, Hugh Ross http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Ross_(creationist) is another, my uncle and mother are other examples. They're real smart people who suspect Christianity is mostly bunk or simply aren't sure, and set out to learn, to understand -- or even to prove it wrong. But they do so with an open mind. That's not to say everyone who studies ends up believing, but that's just my observation about how people end up "getting it."

      Honestly, I used to get a little nervous that what I'd learn would damage my faith, but studying (and prayer) have only strengthened it (Phil 4:6-7 http://biblegateway.com/passage/?search=phil%204:6-7;&version=49;). In fact we are told to be ready to defend our faith, so for me studying history and apologetics are critical (1 Pet 3:15 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20pet%203:15;&version=49;).
  • Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -15/+4pfft, if I was Jesus, I'd totally be looking at porn instead an English bible (reminds of bad anime dubs). I mean, he spent his life with 12 men and never got married... The Second Coming of Christ? Did he ever come a first time? Oh, the innuendos.
    And yes, I'm know that, if there is a Hell, I'm going straight to it. XD
    • wthnow, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7That's the struggle between what the physical body wants and the mind and spirit want. Jesus still cares about you and still wants you to know him and have control over that.
    • Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5Thanks, Father RandomDiggUser. I totally feel enlightened now!
      Also, for the record, it was satire.
      http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=satire
    • ahhell, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4@wthnow

      Bhahahaha
      So Jesus loves the priests that "resist" their urges by molesting altar boys...nice.

      Jesus-freaks make me laugh.
  • grzelakc, on 10/12/2007, -10/+6To counterbalance the indoctrination of the eBible please refer frequently to the skeptic's annotated bible:
    http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/
  • idiotkings, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6What Would Jesus Code?
  • samuelcotterall, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Oh, I see Typo... I think this is what we call "BibleOnRails".
  • ramd3z, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4Jesus just want my gmail addy so he can spam me.
  • JiffySquid, on 10/12/2007, -12/+4I prefer the following online bible:
    http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com
  • McNamron, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3What with Jesus building my hot rod in 1992, and now digging Web 2.0 bibles and all, I'd have to say He's perhaps more in touch with modern times than my bible history teacher made Him out to be.
  • neozeed, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3they seem to have left out the "All persons living and dead are purely coincidental, and should not be construed. Names have been changed in order to protect the innocent."
  • JohnTheLutheran, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4Perhaps Christians just "get" irony better than you. Which would seem kinda ironic.
    • JohnTheLutheran, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Dang, that comment ended up detached from its parent and was left completely meaningless. Please feel free to bury. ;-)
  • kotatsu, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4Religion is lame, just like this.

    Sorry bible thumpers, but I think you're living in the wrong time period. You're after the 'dark ages', where you can worship the sun and burn witches without ridicule.
  • Aslan72, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Lame, I know, but anyone want to hook a brutha up with an invite?

    It'll be a hard time to de-seat Bible Gateway (http://www.biblegateway.com) as the premier resource online. You just can't be the 7-9 translations that they have up there...

    --pete
    • gwjc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2yeah biblegateway is a great resource; as far as I can see eBible is just a splash page with a sign-up to register.. almost like it's spamming for membership.
  • Gneisbaard, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8I'd rather burn in hell thank you very much.
  • linkerjpatrick, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3As a Christian I have used a Bible for most of my life. Since the advent of the Internet and Hypertext I find it interesting that I have been using hypertext for longer than I have been using the web. I'm not sure who came up with the concept of cross references in the Bible with the strip of links in the center margin and definitions at the bottom. The Bible itself has been "Web 2.0" for long time!
  • ziffel, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4I see the zealots are now carefully watching digg for potential religion stories. Use to be, the anti-religion comments were modded up, now the pro-Jeebus-fairy-tale comments are modded up, and and the pro-truth comments are modded way down.
    • gwjc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Not really... the most modded up comment right now is:
      -----
      ... by Beanlover 1 hour ago Block/Report this User
      + 51 diggs
      Any religion generally sucks and seeks to control/manipulate humans in some form
    • ziffel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Trust me, I've been watching these threads for months now. I know, because my anti-religion comments used to always be modded up (not that I really give a ***** about this lame comment system), and now mine and others who think like me are usually modded down. It's apparent that some of these bible thumpers are going to their Jeebus websites and recruiting their buddies to come here and have a little fun.

      I don't really care, my profile is set to 'Show All', I just wonder if that's something good ol Jeebus would do.
    • mfelkins, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"Show All" is exactly something Jesus would do.
    • ziffel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I agree, but I meant, would Jesus go recruit his 12 disciples to log onto digg and bury comments of those he disagrees with.
    • JohnTheLutheran, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Ziffel, do you have any evidence for your assertion that Christians are deliberately sending people round to mod down anti-religious comments on Digg? Like we don't have anything better to do?

      If you don't, then don't you think it's a bit ironic for you to be holding a belief that is based on no evidence?

      Here's a really wild alternative theory: Digg is frequented by *all sorts of people*. Some are Christians, some are atheists, some are neither. Some are Apple fanboys, some are Linux fanboys, some no doubt are even Windows fanboys (*shudders*). People from each of these groups tend to mod up or mod down things they agree or disagree with, sometimes on good grounds, sometimes just on a kneejerk reaction to something they don't like (even if it happens to be well argued or whatever).

      And here's an even wilder suggestion: a thread about an "eBible" is more likely to attract Christian diggers than some other threads, so an anti-religious comment on this thread is more likely to get modded down. (As it happens, I don't think I've modded down any comments on this thread - I'm not really into modding people down just because I disagree with them.)
  • godsfshrmn, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3I don't see how people believe we evolved from muck. I'm sure everyone is familiar with the concept of entropy, which is basically that everything becomes more disorderly with time. I.e your bedroom. If the universe is progressively getting more disorganized, how can something such as us come across by chance, which would have required EXTREME organization? Those who do not believe will find out in due time.
  • itsjake88, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2pshhh... christianity. Not worth a digg.
  • ziffel, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5"You dont have to be conservative to be Christian its not about that you dont have to be Catholic all it comes down to is a relationship with God and forgiveness for the errors you've made in life. That's all its about."

    Amen, preach it brother! It's ALL about God's awesome love! Just one teency tiny little thing you forgot to mention... if you *don't* establish this relationship with him, he'll set you on fire and burn you in agonizing torment for all eternity. Woot! God is love, baby!
    • plue2, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2By responding with your own religous beliefs (though you did a good job at only implying them instead of outright stating them) you validate his right to post his. This just is... not... a place.. to discuss religion. Christian zealots, and army of the non-Christian anti christian spamer club... both need to pretty please, STFU.
    • tommajor, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5you also forget one teency little part. love and justice go hand in hand. God doesn't send anyone to hell, it is their sin that sends them to hell. It is not God's fault that people don't want to be sved from that.
    • wthnow, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5Its a choice a free gift open to any who will take it. God doesn't want anyone to perish that's why He sent His son Jesus down to die and take the punishment for the things we did. He had to watch His son die actually he looked away but He did it so he could save everybody. So now the choice is available to be forgiven if you want to be.
    • ziffel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5"you also forget one teency little part. love and justice go hand in hand. God doesn't send anyone to hell, it is their sin that sends them to hell. It is not God's fault that people don't want to be sved from that."

      Sorry, but that's ***** that you Christians have to believe to account for your god being a torturing sadist. If God created everything, then he created hell. If God has all power, then he has the power to choose another punishment (i.e. annihilation, or a Lake of Petroleum Jelly). He created hell, and ultimately, on what you call "Judgement Day", someone is going to have to ***** shove me into a lake of fire, I'm sure not "choosing" it.

      How do equate eternal torture ("weeping and gnashing of teeth") with so-called sins commited in a marred, finite existance? Your own bible even states that man is BORN into sin, and really has no choice in the matter.

      You keep believing this "justice and love" go hand-in-hand nonsense. You have to think something crazy to justify your book of mythology.
    • Beanlover, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3God created hell for Satan and his demons. He will be sending them there in due time. Whether or not you join them is up to you.

      You aren't looking that the bigger picture of the justice system God is executing. Once you do that you will begin to understand. Right now you have a choice in the matter...and the default is "no thanks".
  • milkcow, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7@nameless and anybody else who will read this

    you said, "Are you implying that the life of Jesus is more important than the life of any other human being?".

    I say, "The life if Jesus is more important than most because He is God and has made the only acceptable sacrifice for our sins on that cross that you speak of. He hath said, that He is the way, the Truth, and the Life, and that no man can come to the Father but through Him. Without embracing Him as Lord and Savior, you will perish in eternal Hell. If you want the grace/faith/forgiveness that He freely gives, simply pray to Him earnestly and He will give it to you."

    Romans 10:9-11
    9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, "WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED ."

    Romans 1:16-32
    16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. 17 For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, "BUT THE RIGHTEOUS man SHALL LIVE BY FAITH." 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,

    19 because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. 21 For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures. 24 Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them. 25 For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; 32 and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.
    • Nameless1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Dude, do you kiss your mother with that mouth?
    • crimsonalucard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Milkcow:
      I don't understand. Could you repeat that?
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