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- LordEsoterica, on 03/15/2008, -4/+116I hope the internet strikes back, hard, at the ISPs that participate.
- diulei, on 03/15/2008, -4/+101What happened to you Japan. You used to be cool.
- HaloZero, on 03/15/2008, -3/+95This is going to hurt the anime fansub community pretty hard if anime can't be acquired.
- BluesFan, on 03/15/2008, -3/+66Now every country's ISP's will follow suit...*****.why don't they just leave us alone and enjoy the millions there already making.
- PHiZ187, on 03/15/2008, -2/+53Apparently japanese P2P is way ahead of western P2P as far as encryption, so good luck japanese ISPs.
Winny: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winny
Share: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Share_%28P2P%29
Perfect Dark: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_Dark_%28P2P%2 ... - moste, on 03/15/2008, -4/+52I hate it when corporations bend that easy.
- Tippis, on 03/16/2008, -1/+48Meanwhile, the Swedish justice department has oficially stated that internet access is now too important for everyday life to be shut off willy-nilly, and that while it is unfortunate that copyright holders might suffer losses, it is not up to the government to create laws and policies to artificially support antiquated and outdated business models.
Sweden > Japan ;P - Uranium118, on 03/15/2008, -3/+36All their uber-fast internet is now useless if you can't pirate stuff.
- honutt, on 03/15/2008, -3/+34Arrrrrr, maties! But what if I be needing to use the internets!?
- Mrdudeperson, on 03/15/2008, -3/+26Better stay out of Japan
- forumz, on 03/15/2008, -3/+26Japan still cool! FREE DOWNLOAD FOR EVERYONE!
- BJNK, on 03/15/2008, -7/+27oh the humanity..
- FreddieD, on 03/16/2008, -1/+20Ahh... a superior bikini team *and* superior laws. What a country!
- digitalarcanum, on 03/15/2008, -1/+17dammit. there goes my dattebayo fansubs.
- Mootabolife, on 03/16/2008, -1/+15Let's boycott copyrights! Lets turn our musical generation back a few tuns and only release old music to the masses. By the time we get to today's music, the copyright is already up! Perfect!
- DestroyFascism, on 03/16/2008, -2/+15SO you get the internet.
You mostly stop watching TV, listening to radio and so on...
The big Media Corps ban users from file sharing at the same time create a botched attempt at online marketing with heavy handed and frankly pathetic DRM that does nothing more than complicate the use and portability of a product you own.
End result.
No market!
Why?
Most net users will never know about bands, will never get to sample them so they would not buy the stuff to begin with.
The Media Corps are doing the best they can do to remove themselves from any new sources of marketing, and have shown nothing but contempt for file sharing and what It truly represents. A lack of marketing! The only people that need to be shamed are the suits and lawyers in the Media industry.
Its so 1984 this *****! You can't buy it as they don't seem to want to sell it to you unless you sign away your life, allow militia men to monitor you and agree that anything you purchased has no usability other than what the Corps say. Soon it will be easier to get put in jail than it will be to get a decent DVD on the market. - DarkDx, on 03/16/2008, -0/+13And how the ***** am I gonna get my Hentai?!? And my lolikon'!?! (don't ask).
- amdahlj, on 03/15/2008, -4/+17The Ninja lobby is a powerful one in Japan...
- mogebier, on 03/16/2008, -2/+13Ninja's 1
Pirates 0
DAMN YOU NINJA'S!!!
:shakefist: - AzureRise, on 03/15/2008, -2/+13But, the pirates will finish subbing the first season of Gundam 00....right?
- hakz, on 03/15/2008, -1/+12I smell international pressure
- Khast, on 03/15/2008, -2/+13Here's an idea, why don't we go back to the good old days of BBS? This time, as technology has permitted us, make it wireless. Each computer having their own address....each home having their own router...we'll have to figure out some way of connecting between continents, but it could be done big time within cities....and if we created our own internet....there'd be nothing the ISPs could do to stop us.
- thrallie, on 03/15/2008, -4/+14The pirates will win. We can just go use a different distribution method, go back to Usenet or even use good old http downloads no matter how fast the download sites disappear. If you ban torrents another one will pop up. I use Usenet all the time because my college doesn't block it. But pirates will always find a way to beat the system.
- FreddieD, on 03/16/2008, -3/+13Not to worry. This is far more difficult to implement in The States with so many ISPs, and even if they somehow found a way, the piracy community hasn't even gotten warmed up yet. With all of the encryption methods that exist today and non-obvious channels to obtain "illegal" data, this isn't even going to stop persistent pirates in Japan.
- poxonyou, on 03/16/2008, -0/+7I guess I'm in trouble! I'm about to move and will make sure I don't use one of these ISPs if possible. This country is so pro-corporate that it makes the US look socialist. Big business dominates everything. Though, to be fair, we at least have universal health care here and it's a much more environmentally friendly country (though that doesn't extend to its fishing practices). Also, I think independent music labels are stronger here than in the US. Many popular artists on the bigger indie labels share the same amount of airtime as artists on mega-labels. OK, maybe it's not THAT bad, but this news certainly isn't good to hear.
- bagelmaster, on 03/16/2008, -2/+9Not to mention in the U.S. people tend to get very pissed off when their rights (internet neutrality) are stomped on.
- maeon3, on 03/15/2008, -3/+10Time for the internet to disconnect those ISP's from the internet because of net nutrality.
- loroleg, on 03/15/2008, -2/+9I'm sure this will work!
- Murphy52589, on 03/15/2008, -2/+8wtf?
- cheseball, on 03/16/2008, -1/+7Fixed link for perfect dark: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_Dark_%28P2P%2 ...
- jumbalia, on 03/15/2008, -1/+7well I have 6 months left in Japan until I head back to Canada. I better not miss Lost. I need it!!
- georgi0u, on 03/15/2008, -1/+7all this is going to do is pressure the moderators and developers of the torrent network to create an encrypted p2p system. Following the Pirate Bay's original idea of keeping it all open source and spread out through out the internet (large quantities of trackers and p2p specific sites) and encrypted, the only thing that will happen is P2P will evolve into an even more unstoppable machine.
- fucayama, on 03/15/2008, -4/+10Agreed, we can not allow this disgraceful example of pro-ninja bias to go unchecked!
- Amric, on 03/16/2008, -2/+7Because they want to make more millions?
- spyres, on 03/16/2008, -1/+6Hello encryption and "sneaker net" I guess.
- vpshockwave, on 03/16/2008, -1/+6This is the SECOND page on digg already. Perhaps you should submit it a third time just to make sure everyone on the INTERNETZ sees it.
- cultist667, on 03/16/2008, -0/+5No it won't the Japanese use Share not BT for their protocol its extreme stuff in the field of privacy and encryption.
- poxonyou, on 03/16/2008, -1/+6Yeah, Japanese have been far more concerned about anonymity than US file-sharers, but those programs aren't nearly as good and easy to use as torrents or some of the better English P2P programs. It's a pain in the ass to set up Perfect Dark and requires a massive amount of disk space and bandwidth. It can take weeks to get the same file you can get via torrent in a few hours.
- VladislavIII, on 03/15/2008, -2/+6We prefer to be called "Gentlemen of Fortune".
- solistus, on 03/16/2008, -0/+4Corporations don't care about you or your rights. If bending easily to pressure is expected to be more profitable in the long run, the corporation will do it every time.
- CoolWind, on 03/16/2008, -1/+5It's so nice that you are optimistic on this issue, but you're also failing to notice that the corporations are beginning to take control of the internet, and they won't stop until they win. You think they can't stop you from accessing Usenet? Don't be silly. It'll be much easier than stopping P2P, which they will do. All they have to do is sue the usenet providers for facilitating piracy. I'm afraid the good old days of easy piracy are coming to an end. The signs are everywhere.
- kelvie, on 03/16/2008, -0/+4It's not that they aren't easy to use (they do have some weird terminology, but so did BitTorrent when it first came out), it's that they don't really do much.
You search, and download. You also have to realize that fiber optic internet (or just really fast internet) is pretty common in Japan, and the ISPs aren't _nearly_ as strict with bandwidth as they are over here. Hard drive space is cheap though, and PD requires 40GB minimum for its cache-like mechanism.
Perfect Dark is really a lot better than its two predecessors, but there's far less users (it seems, from the amount of content available). PD also works a lot better in wine :p - austinap, on 03/15/2008, -4/+7censorship at its best
- magus_melchior, on 03/16/2008, -0/+3More precisely, they want to have the 15% growth per year that their shareholders expect from them for some reason.
- bluemist, on 03/16/2008, -0/+3I recall stories of people in Japan who downloaded some popular torrent, then after some time a cease-and-desist mail came in from the ISP telling that they downloaded "the specific file" and ask them not to do it again or else...
This was over a year ago, so I think they already have their torrent-detecting software in place. - exomni, on 03/16/2008, -4/+7***** THE RIAA!
- Ellipsys, on 03/16/2008, -0/+3Agreed. I have to admit I'd love to give Perfect Dark a try, but here in the USA its a rare, rare thing to be able to sustain 100Kb/s upload speed. On my 3.0mb/384kb up DSL (the best available in my area), I can sustain about 35. If FiOS ever shows up at my door, I'll be on this, however.
- kindrobot, on 03/16/2008, -1/+4I kinda like it. As long as I have lube.
- rakous, on 03/16/2008, -0/+3It's funny because ninjas are from Japan.
/Obviousness - KielKilla, on 03/16/2008, -3/+6Well the internet will strike back alright. If they disconnect all the pirates (and there are lots of them). They won't make nearly as much money (via monthly fee's, etc).
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