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- robbob, on 05/07/2009, -1/+327anyone with a 3 year old will say copying their DVDs are a must
- ShoggothDreams, on 05/06/2009, -4/+254Actually.... if you read up on the RIAA spokeman's take, no, despite decades of clear "Fair Use" rights, you are NOT allowed to copy music from CDs. Because the RIAA says so. :P
- Khast, on 05/06/2009, -4/+231It's not copying the DVD that is DMCA protected, you can copy DVDs for personal use all day....it's decrypting the data that is enforced by the DMCA.
- skellener, on 05/07/2009, -0/+128It should be legalized for personal use. Absolutely. It's been paid for, it's yours, you own it, do whatever you want with it. The MPAA can go pound sand.
Regardless of the outcome, people will continue to rip DVDs an play them on the devices of their choosing. It's really not going to matter either way so BFD. - Cabose, on 05/07/2009, -0/+125I wish I could digg this comment a million times. I have a 3 year old and I've gone through 3 copies of Cars. I don't know how he does it, but he is a destructor.
- Chewie67, on 05/07/2009, -0/+102Same here. 2 copies of Cars. 2 copies of Toy Story 2. Monsters Inc has started to skip.
Kids are brutal on DVDs, and even if you do most of the handling, they still seem to manage to get their hands on them.
I'd love to be able to just back them all up on to the HDD of my PS3 and never have to worry about the physical disc. Oh, but that would make me a criminal and put me in jail for up to 3 years.
Forget drug dealers, child molesters and terrorist -- let's fill our prisons with parents who don't want their $20 copy of Cars to get ruined. - Treshnell, on 05/07/2009, -1/+91How is it illegal? It's my dvd, I'll do whatever the hell I want to it...
- inactive, on 05/06/2009, -4/+90It's "legal" in the US as well as most countries. It's the licensing that prohibits it. US law allows for personal backups.
- Topher06, on 05/07/2009, -3/+63Yes, but when iTunes and Media Center, and every other knock-off music player can rip a CD flawlessly, and even get track names online, its generally accepted that you can copy CD's regardless of what the RIAA says. The RIAA isn't fighting against software that can rip CD's, they are just fighting people that want to send the CD to a million of their closest friends.
Its time for iTunes, Media Center, and every other knock-off video player to allow flawless rips of DVD's now. - draxenato, on 05/07/2009, -1/+60At first glance this may not matter anymore, after all, for anyone who's wanted to rip a DVD it's been a fairly trivial issue for years now.
But, as long it remains illegal to do so then it's another excuse for the MPAA, the feds or whoever to come knocking on your door, confiscate your kit and generally mess up your life. - DanNZN, on 05/07/2009, -1/+45too bad it is still illegal to bypass the copy protection to make said legal backup.
- eanbowman, on 05/07/2009, -0/+41This is why people made a huge stink when the DMCA was becoming law.
It says that the process of decrypting the data on that physical disc you own is a copy protection mechanism protected by the law. If you break that code you are breaking the DMCA. - jasdf, on 05/07/2009, -2/+39Your comment makes it traceable.
- SteveMTyler, on 05/07/2009, -2/+39I didn't know it was illegal, I just knew it was a pain in the ass. I had to decode and rip to the hard drive, compress to a ~cd sized avi file, then convert to ipods format.
Then when it was all done, I couldn't stand to actually watch a movie on the tiny screen. - JAHred, on 05/07/2009, -1/+38This is one of the first times I've actually rooted for Real... The world has turned upside down
- AstroZombie138, on 05/07/2009, -0/+36I was a very early adopter of DVDs, and remember paying $800 for my DVD player. I had to order my DVDs from specialty sites because no major store carried them. About six months ago, I decided to rip all of my movies into H.264 format so that I could play them on my Apple TV. This is around 300 original DVDs that I have kept very carefully throughout the years.
I was very frustrated because many of my early DVDs are no longer readable, even with advanced tools. Inspection of the discs shows blotches on the disc like something leaked on the inside. So in a nutshell, the movies that I bought and paid for are no longer usable even through I did everything I could to take care of them. I haven't bought physical media since then and will avoid it wherever possible. I won't be buying a Blue Ray player (at least for my TV anyway), and will only purchase via online copy moving forward.
The bottom line is that you will never stop the pirates. Every copy protection scheme has been cracked, and it always will. You only frustrate the legitimate customer by providing these roadblocks. - tomato1324, on 05/07/2009, -2/+38which is just as stupid because all movies produced by studios associated with the MPAA is encrypted and covered by the DMCA.
- inactive, on 05/07/2009, -0/+35I am willing to bet that by MPAA/RIAA standards, almost 100% of computer users are criminals. It's a great way to control people, just label everyone as criminals so when you feel you need to take someone down, you can do so very easily.
- badenglishihave, on 05/07/2009, -2/+37Why is your wife loading DVDs when she should be cooking or scrubbing the floor?
- adm58, on 05/07/2009, -0/+31Statements like this are why I don't even try to follow the rules. Because everything is against the rules. So, screw it.
- mitochondria, on 05/07/2009, -0/+30Heh I feel your pain. I am on my third copy of Cars as well. He just can't get enough of it.
- geoken, on 05/07/2009, -0/+29"I don't know how he does it"
With my son, the thing that caused the most damage was him putting the dvd in the tray slightly out of place. When the tray closed it would either encounter too much resistance and come back out or it would force the dvd into place. Both scenarios caused surface damage. - CedEx, on 05/07/2009, -2/+31Obviously his wife has just served him his meal, and he needs to watch something as he eats.
- Pxtl, on 05/07/2009, -1/+30Essentially the DMCA allows software designers to make up whatever more-restrictive version of copyright law they choose.
- jcastillo81, on 05/07/2009, -1/+27Breaking into a warehouse and stealing a box full of manufactured DVD's is theft. Copying 1's and 0's from one shiny disc to another IS NOT theft. It's that simple.
- scarwars, on 05/07/2009, -0/+24buffering...
- mparker21311, on 05/07/2009, -0/+23I'd agree with doing whatever you want with your purchased ***** as long as you don't sell it.
- SpookyBoots, on 05/07/2009, -0/+22How are you supposed to get around all the copyright restrictions legally then?
- Valyn, on 05/07/2009, -2/+24Wrong. There should be no 'licenses' to begin with. If they don't want me to do what ever the hell I want with something I bought, don't sell it.
We don't have licenses deciding how often you can share that couch you just bought.
We need to fix the actual problem, not the symptom.
Read the facts about copyright.
http://www.dklevine.com/general/intellectual/again ... - dbz253, on 05/07/2009, -0/+2209-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3-5b -d8-41-56-c5-63-56-88-c0
- dafragsta, on 05/07/2009, -1/+22after CSS, Macrovision, AACS, and BD+, you'd think they'd just give it up. When you sell content to someone for a fairly high price to cost of production ratio, you can't get upset when they feel entitled to transport that content legally amongst their own media library. Granted, there is the bigger issue of piracy and I'm not going to be a complete hypocrite and say I've never pirated anything, but I think enough people do feel obligated to pay for the content to still make it profitable.
- OmegaWolf, on 05/07/2009, -0/+21Why has the DMCA never been challenged on constitutional grounds?
- Topher06, on 05/07/2009, -5/+26True, but by openning up the "legit" copying of DVD's, I can stop having to use 10 different poorly written open source hacks to get a decent rip off a DVD and instead use something built into Windows or iTunes.
- desiv, on 05/07/2009, -5/+25It's not illegal to decrypt a DVD.
You do it every time you watch it. And the license to do so is in the DVD Player. Real is claiming that their license to do that is what allows them to copy it for personal use. The author misses that point. It will be interesting to see if it's a valid argument. That DMCA is a mess to read... - inactive, on 05/07/2009, -2/+22Things like this seem absolutely pointless. After all, pretty much any movie under the sun can be downloaded via bittorrent, so what exactly is the MPAA trying to prevent? And anyone who says legalizing the copying of DVDs will lead to more piracy is completely ignorant and has no understanding of how piracy works.
- Valyn, on 05/07/2009, -1/+21I have ripped all my movies as well. But cost and laziness are not good reasons to lose rights.
- KentuckyBoy2, on 05/07/2009, -0/+19Have you never heard of Instant Handbrake?
- taox, on 05/07/2009, -1/+20Digital Dvd copies are a gateway media.
- diggydougie, on 05/07/2009, -1/+20That and the DMCA.
- MacParrot, on 05/07/2009, -2/+21I agree. It's seems pointless to still demand that no DVDs be allowed to be ripped since every OS has software available that will bypass the security features they keep insisting on trying.
Just let it go. Watermark it with an email address or something. We bought it digital. As long as we aren't trying to share it online, let's us do as we please with it. - KarateMedia, on 05/07/2009, -0/+18Here's a good article that elaborates a little on what Shoggoth is saying. "Pariser" in the quote below is Jennifer Pariser, the head of litigation for Sony BMG - not herself a record exec or spokesperson for the RIAA. But I think her statement speaks for the industry:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2007/10/so ...
"Gabriel asked if it was wrong for consumers to make copies of music which they have purchased, even just one copy. Pariser replied, "When an individual makes a copy of a song for himself, I suppose we can say he stole a song." Making "a copy" of a purchased song is just "a nice way of saying 'steals just one copy'," she said." - MegaSilver, on 05/07/2009, -0/+16I wish my wife would stop doing that too,
- FearisFailure, on 05/07/2009, -7/+23Its only wrong if you get caught.
- compgeek, on 05/07/2009, -1/+17If I bought the DVD with my own money I'll make a backup if I damn well please. MPAA and RIAA be damned about it. Thank God for living in Canada where our laws surrounding this aren't nearly as ***** stupid as the US of A (nothing against the USA I love Georgia and would live there if I could afford it)
- KMartSheriff, on 05/07/2009, -2/+17How does she do that from the kitchen?
- Valyn, on 05/07/2009, -1/+16RTFA
- MrViklund, on 05/07/2009, -1/+16As long as you don't sell a copy. You can sell the original.
- nybble41, on 05/07/2009, -0/+15@jgtg32a - You can't burn a CSS-encrypted DVD image on ordinary discs (the area where the keys are stored isn't writable), and licensed players won't play encrypted ISOs or VOBs directly from a hard drive. You can make an ISO or VOB rip easily enough, but the backup copy is useless without an expensive unrestricted DVD burner and special discs--unless you break the DMCA by using an unlicensed CSS decoder, of course.
- tomato1324, on 05/07/2009, -0/+14its not a question of stopping people from doing it, its a matter of making it a feature and easy to do with software like itunes or windows media player (just like topher06 said). keep in mind that the majority of the population doesnt know how to take the backdoor ways to do things like copy dvds like many diggers do.
- ultrafez, on 05/07/2009, -1/+15Such an insightful comment there.
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