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- wwnexc, on 10/15/2007, -2/+87A good hacker doesn't get caught.
- znachtman, on 10/10/2007, -1/+64Logging in using default passwords is hacking? Wow... the term "hacker" has really degenerated over the years.
- NecroSexy, on 10/10/2007, -2/+53Yea, he's going to prison, but at least his loved ones are saving a lot of money with Geico.
- Gryffydd, on 10/10/2007, -1/+27So this "hacker" basically spent his time scanning for routers with default passwords. Duh.. Of course it was so easy a caveman could do it. That's like saying it's easy to break into houses when they leave their doors wide open.
- Skooma714, on 10/10/2007, -0/+23Being good at computer isn't nessicarly wizardry or skill, it's all about patience.
Why bother brute forcing or social engineering when the stupid sysadmin didn't shut down the default accounts? - vroom101, on 10/10/2007, -5/+28Master Foo and the Script Kiddie: http://catb.org/~esr/writings/unix-koans/script-ki ...
- ReduX33, on 10/10/2007, -2/+21Let me get something clear about Robert. He's a dear friend of mine and it's shameful to see people post these ignorant judgmental comments about him.
You people should read more into this case rather than calling him "a loser"...
First of all, when he did that interview with Information Week, he never intended for the "easy enough that a caveman could do it" to be posted in the article summary. He said it as a joke to the interviewer, not an arrogant statement as most of you are interpreting it. Also, what the article lacks to mention is the driving force behind his doing this was his family's medical condition. He wanted to help them out, because his father has Lupus, and his mother had recently been diagnosed with Breast Cancer, not to mention his own ailments.
Edwin Pena is the one that screwed Robert over because he left the country right after the fact, and Robert is ending up in prison for two years. Edwin was facing up to 20, and if he would have been convicted, Robert would have faced less of a sentence (most likely).
It's infuriating to see people criticize this man, a great friend of mine, simply because of an act he did to result in the well-being of his family. If you feel like learning more about him, and not making retarded remarks about how "leet" you are and how dumb he is (like 90% of these comments), visit his site setup by his friends at - FreeRobert [dot] com -
I don't typically read comments on this site because of all the obviously ill-educated people that post after jumping to immediate conclusions, but I only posted this out of respect for my friend, Robert. He is a good man. I expect to be flamed by people on here for this comment, but to those people, talk to someone else who feels like listening to ignorance. - quiksliver, on 10/10/2007, -3/+20dugg for looking like kevin smith
- Xyc0, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15If you haven't been following the story, he's been a scapegoat for something much larger and different.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11Its easy to sell drugs . . . but eventually you'll get caught . . .
- g30ph, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9If the prosecutor wants to put him away, they just have to tell the judge and jury he can whistle into a phone and destroy the planet. You know they'll believe it.
- NullzipZero, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9This so-called "hacker" is going to get his butt-hole cracked by the brute force method.
- vonskippy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8I'm sure his new Ass ***** buddies in prison will be impressed by his hacker skillz.
- pelman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8He didn't say he was a good hacker. Just said it was easy to get into and even admitted that if they scanned they could have easily seen him.
- compgeek, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10what a loser he is not a hacker at all merely someone who found a bunch of boxes that had their default passwords still in place. i my opinion the IT admins of those companies he was able to break into should be fired for such a lapse and yes he should still go to jail even if the security was nonexistant it's not his right to use those networks for his purposes I say jail him fire those IT guys hire some that can do their damn job and lastly why not sue the ***** out of him when he gets out guy is a total skid with no skills at all.
- Aharoni, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8I thought the whole idea was to hack systems and NOT get caught... "its so easy a caveman can do it".
Well, every caveman can rob a bank... the whole "getting away with it" is the problem! - frostcrow, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6It would have been nice if the story told how long it took to catch them or how they got caught. Instead there are three pages used to tell us nothing other than (1) he is getting two years jail time for it and (2) they used default passwords...
- pmurrph, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6God damn your a douch, where I come from medical bills arent free.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5*sigh* Yeah, because being on a TV show is the same thing as being charged, tried, convicted and sentenced. And everything about your post is just wrong:
First it sounds like you're saying two years is too harsh of a sentence for this crime, which it really isn't. He's not just a friendly hacker doing it for the love of it, he directly took part in massive fraud (he stole lots and lots of money). The two year sentence is entirely unremarkable.
Then it sounds like you're saying child predators get off light, which is just decidedly untrue. Child molesters get destroyed in the courts (which is fine). The ones that don't get destroyed are the ones that are tricked into being outed on national television as a person with a sick problem but don't actually commit a crime. You know, since when there's no crime, you can't really charge them with anything, let alone sentence them? That show does way more harm than good.
And then you twist it all together and use it as evidence that this country is ***** up. Granted the country's got problems, but what you're trying to imply is not it. However, that kind of completely illogical and irrational thinking that you're using (which does nothing but fuel emotion-based decision making) is a BIG part of it. - migvel, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4haha.. that reading was nice..
- Scully1981, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Anyone else think he looks like Turtle from Entourage?
- vonskippy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4They should fire the morons they hired to be their Net Admins. Who's the dumbass there that hasn't heard of: "copy running-config startup-config"
- PiMPSP, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4The word hacker is so overly used in media, anyone that gains unauthorized axxs is deemed a hacker these days.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I know of a few places that if the power goes out their routers reset to the default passwords, but they don't want to buy uninterpretable power supply's for them so half the time their wide open to attack.
- ronaldinho, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Look man, I sympathize, but just because situations got difficult, doesn't give you the permission to flout the law. Now he's not going to help his parents at all by going to jail.
Lucky he's only in prison for two years......when he comes out his parents should still be alive to see their son - physphd, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6I'd like nothing more than some free time alone in a soundproof room with those SOBs, but the media "busting" anybody and taking on law enforcement roles is a bad idea. Where's the chain of evidence? What corners were creativley cut by some junior producer trying to make a deadline, or a name for himself? Remember, NBC's motive is profit and not justice. I would imagine any decent lawyer would have a field day with this. Ultimately, NBC may be doing a disservice.
- acidity, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Dugged for saying *countries* instead of *country*.
- jvanb231, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Alan Paller is truly a moron if thinks that it is not an administrators responsibility to know that he or she needs to change the default password. It's not the vendors fault, it's lazy or incompetent administrators.
- unearth, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3It really is amazing how these articles can say so much without really telling us anything.
- mland, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2what does he mean by "...even a caveman can do it"? This guy is piiissssed!
http://ccinsider.comedycentral.com/photos/uncatego ... - Genma, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2rtfa, if you bother going past the first page they explain the whole operation. the real methods take time so obviously they're going to focus on the least secure points of entry, what's the point of brute forcing an unknown when you can just get in instantly.
- RISwampyankee, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Maybe it's my lobstahs and mobstahs attitude but I would rather put this guy on my payroll than put him jail. I want my IT people to think like hackers.
- hierophantus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Let's see: "hacked" using default passwords, made a million for Pena, who was smart enough to evade capture, got only 20K and got sentenced to prison, threw in a retarded Geico reference in his interview: this, my friends, is the exact opposite of "1337."
- MtheoryX, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I love me some Captain Crunch.
- angrynorwegian, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2hack the planet
- antdude, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Good one.
- JAK2112, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2dugg for "so easy a caveman could do it"
- KidDynamo0, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Holy *****...thats dead on!
- elishagrey, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Is this an ad for abc's Caveman sitcom?
- aus10js86, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2guess he wasn't good enough to cover his tracks
- wshs, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Who's the dumbass that decided config changes shouldn't be loaded on boot?
- AaronS2000, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1He should have taken over a Gibson before getting Zappped!
- emh924a, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1hell save a bundle on his car insurance by switching to geico
- uberfu, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1No *****
No default passwords folks_ - vonskippy, on 10/10/2007, -5/+6So by doing lame ass hack's he was somehow increasing the world's medical research knowledge in Lupus and Breast Cancer? Yeah, that's sure to help his family get better.
- hierophantus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Yeah, he made Pena a million bucks and netted a big 20K and prison time for his troubles. Funny, I don't feel like I'm jumping to conclusions at all when I say he's an idiot.
- mwbarker, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1An interesting read, but a real "mega geek" would know how to cover their tracks.
- bioskope, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Read the Master Foo story in the first post
- ronaldinho, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1The article also mentioned that he would use brute force and dictionary attacks if default password method does not work, so it's not as if he's a novice hacker. Either way, both sides (hacker and the people/company hacked) have their faults really, you can't pin the blame on only one. Just because someone left their house door open, doesn't mean you can enter it without permission, although if you did leave the door open and people stole things from your house, you are to be blamed.
- Waredgo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I agree that at least they should have talked about how he got caught.
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