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- fnot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Just to collect some smart-ass points... 45 nm is the gate width of the transistors, the actuall transistors are wider than that :P
- adidax, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Can someone explain why it is the end of the Ghz chase and what the new race is exactly. I'm really interested in this stuff."
multi-core, slower clocked, more energy efficient processors will rule the next 5 or so years of CPU architecture - elroy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This sounds like a lot of transistors. Can someone express this in football fields for me?
- wmleler, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2One (almost unrelated) gripe. The referenced article mentions Moore's Law as saying that the number of transistors doubles every 18 months to two years. A few years ago I dug up the original paper by Gordon Moore, and he said they would double every year. Somehow along the way, Moore's Law mutated. I wonder how that happened.
- JimXugle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Step it up AMD! and when will we see that new Socket and Quad-Core Chips?
- fnot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@DrWho
The GHz chase is over. We're moving towards multiple cores @ lower frequencies. - CadMasterAdam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0damn.
next step?: 1 billion quantum transistors - dognose, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm thinking the methods are big, only the transistors are tiny.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Well, will we see Porcessor speeds of 6Ghz in 2007? Or abouts? More? Anyone know?
- cusoman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Omg... CLIFF made a front page story without the word "Apple" in it? I must say, I'm impressed.
- jwalk81980, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The motherboard's still going to be huge.
- EruLabs, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Oh, are we going to see a P5? Id like intel to come out with something that all us tech junkies actualy like.Why? It would push AMD's K8 saleprices down :)
- Dabellah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Just for reference, Intel has claimed itself they are washing out the "Pentium" brand name.
- colelt1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Can someone explain why it is the end of the Ghz chase and what the new race is exactly. I'm really interested in this stuff."
The P4 was called "net-burst", it was supposed to be 8ghz by now. It does less work/ghz than the PMobile/P3 (P-Pro) core, but was supposed to scale to insane clocks. They did not see that they would hit a thermal wall at 4ghz until about 12 months ago. Since then, the switched back to the older P3 setup (P M), which cant hit near the ghz of the net-burst but does more work per ghz.
For example, these 3 examples would all be about equal in performance:
P4 dual core 3.8ghz
Athlon x2 dual core 1.8ghz (they only go down to 2.0, so you would have to down clock one)
Core Duo (dual core) 2.0ghz
Also the new marketing names, what will be on the box and your case:
Intel "Core Solo" (single core)
Intel "Core Duo" (dual core)
Of course mine is a Athlon X2 :)
I'm not a fanboy, I just go with whatever has better benchmarks, and AMD is the winner... for now. - dgcrazykid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0They are building a 2 Billion dollar plan solely dedicated to making 45-NM chips in my city.
- cquinnd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The actual time is whatever Intel has needed it to be to coincide with thier next great processor launch.
Transitor density in RAM manufacturing has exceeded Moore's "Law" for quite some time IIRC.
And the growth of data density for magnetic media (hard drives) has blown it away for years. - officecamel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"The fingernail-sized memory chip is etched with 1 billion transistors..."
I guess the chip is a memory chip huh? Thats what CNN says... - DJNewStyle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"One (almost unrelated) gripe. The referenced article mentions Moore's Law as saying that the number of transistors doubles every 18 months to two years. A few years ago I dug up the original paper by Gordon Moore, and he said they would double every year. Somehow along the way, Moore's Law mutated. I wonder how that happened."
He said one year - in most articles that mention Moore's they acknowledge his statement as being CLOSE to the actual time of 18 months (it has since changed.. but the actual time has been around 18 months for years) - MasterDwarf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0OOooo radioactive...
- JasonPrini, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0When do we move from processor count to core count?
Doing a Moore's Law calc...Only 13 years until the first 1K {1024} core CPU!!!
13 years ago was 1993... - Ramble, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1"damn. next step?: 1 billion quantum transistors"
If you knew anything about silicon transistors, or any normal electronic transistors, you would know that is impossible.
But, you are a fool. - adml_shake, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0And can still heat your house!!
- UGM2099, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0as a life long mac user i say GO INTEL ;)
- adidax, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Quote=Erulabs
Oh, are we going to see a P5?
intel said they were going to drop the pentium branding, so it would become something like the Intel *** or intel D***. - ersatzphi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Can someone explain why it is the end of the Ghz chase and what the new race is exactly. I'm really interested in this stuff.
- en3r0, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Wow. That's a whole lot of transistors!
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