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- inactive, on 05/19/2009, -6/+21AMERICA ***** YEAH!
- ChrisTek, on 05/19/2009, -3/+15What everyone fails to realize is most of the tech you're sitting in front of trickled down from military tech. Most big tech innovations started with military funding.
- AlyxVance, on 05/19/2009, -2/+11walk softly and carry a big stick
best policy for peace ever. - brokencode, on 05/19/2009, -0/+8Did you even bother reading or you just imagined this article was just about more nukes and guns?
- winterspan, on 05/19/2009, -1/+8
Say what you want on the huge spending of the United States military and the power of the military-industrial complex, but don't go after DARPA.
It was DARPA's "wasteful" spending that created the entire original infrastructure for the internet which began life as "ARPANET". Not to mention DARPA and their predecessor agencies poured billions of dollars into the development of modern electronics and computing through their supercomputer projects over the last half-century.
Other DARPA accomplishments:
- DARPA funded the creation of "Multics", the first time-sharing operating system, which is an early ancestor of all modern OSs today
- DARP funded the "NLS" Computer system in the 1960's which was revolutionary in creating many mondern computing concepts like hypertext links, screen windowing, raster-scan video monitors, etc.
- DARPA sponsors the DARPA Grand Challenge to develop autonomous vehicles
- DARPA essentially created the modern era of UAVs with the funding of the Predator drone
- DARP created the technology of "onion routing" which Tor and other software use to provide anonymous data transfer over the internet. Tor can act as an advanced web proxy and allow people in totalitarian countries to view censored websites and information - yngtimmy, on 05/19/2009, -3/+10Hows about we sell some tech to make up for our miserable debt?
- sb66, on 05/19/2009, -0/+6DARPA said it has embarked on an ambitious mission to create a new generation of computing systems - cognitive computers ... developing technologies that will enable computer systems to learn, reason and apply knowledge gained through experience, and respond intelligently to new and unforeseen events.
skynet alpha woohoo - inactive, on 05/19/2009, -2/+7Now I know what I want for christmas.
- blackopsfreak06, on 05/19/2009, -0/+4Does anyone else find it troubling that we're investing so heavily in unmanned vehicles? I like the idea of protecting American troops from fire just as much as anyone, but I get the feeling that in the long run, the idea of committing machines to a conflict will be able to go over far-better than troops.
"In Iraq today, the United States lost four ground vehicles and three fighter jets while assaulting the terrorist hideout. There were no American causulties." Doesn't this sound far-better than, "Seven Marines were killed in a heavy firefight with terrorist..."?
My point being, I think public attention towards our "interventions" in other nations will not be nearly as intense, allowing the U.S. to get involved with even more conflicts, inevitably killing more innocent civilians with few people on our side of the fence realizing the continued toll of war.
Call me paranoid, call me crazy, but the idea of declaring war being an even easier decision just really bothers me. Maintaining a war without fear of overwhelming domestic condemnation just sounds dangerous. - blackopsfreak06, on 05/19/2009, -0/+4You have some logic there, but I still think that even a down-sized military would still have a far-greater potential to be deployed since causulties on our end would be practically nonexistent. And I completely agree with you that arguing against "no American casualties" is a losing proposition...and that's exactly why I think my fears could someday be realized.
- profschwann, on 05/19/2009, -1/+4<One simple rule that intelligent people from other worlds might have in deciding when it is time to make first contact with a world - when a planet's people spend more of their collective money on things that help each other than kill each other.>
Yep, that sounds like a good time to invade to me too! - ricemonster, on 05/19/2009, -4/+7War and people dying sucks, but the technology is just oh-so-cool.
- HurricaneDC, on 05/19/2009, -1/+4I want this guy's job:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Military_laser_e ...
I"m not sure what he's doing, but I know it involves lasers and wearing sunglasses. - srg13, on 05/19/2009, -0/+3You mean like "Accelerated Development and Production of Therapeutics: rapidly and inexpensively manufacture millions of doses of life saving drugs or vaccines in weeks, instead of the years required to ramp up today's manufacturing practices."
Try reading the article some time... - radioactive21, on 05/19/2009, -2/+4Dont forget
-Satalites (not just things that float above earth, intelligent satellite systems)
-GPS (direct result of satellites)
-Most of the space program tech has origins in DARPA
-Computers (remember how they took up warehouses, who do you think was one of few who can afford them? Without them being built you wouldn't be able to learn to scale down)
For a long time much of the world looked at the US for innovation in tech. Why do you think China hasnt done anything? Without countries like the US who will China copy? What cheap gadgets and electronics will they be able to reproduce and sell cheap? People forget China can make everything cheap but mostly they arent that ones that invented them.
Innovation in tech is why the rest the of the world still pay the US any attention. Initiatives like DARPA help the country as a whole, so the money is well spent. - BrokenCircle, on 05/19/2009, -0/+2No Line-Of-Sight artillery.
Hyper Sonic Projectiles
CBU-97
Low Radiation Tactical Electron Explosives
Liquid Skin
Magnetic Artillery
2000 Combat Simulator - arplayer2k, on 05/19/2009, -6/+8We're not going to stop bombing countries anytime soon, are we?
- BrokenCircle, on 05/19/2009, -0/+2We had better research than this when I was in.
- blackopsfreak06, on 05/19/2009, -0/+1Like what?
- notpeterf, on 05/19/2009, -8/+9Shut up, Hippies.
- vipertech, on 05/19/2009, -2/+3"There is yet to be a military in the world that spends as much as the US does on its military, and yet to be a military that can match its firepower."
And so the US should stop and let everyone catch up?
"I wonder what would happen if we just took our research budget and used it to fight hunger both domestically and abroad."
An increase in overpopulation in an already overpopulated world. - dsn0wman, on 05/19/2009, -0/+1Thats only allowed if you are playing Civilization.
- Joshper85, on 05/19/2009, -1/+2so if the people ever went against the government with our shot guns and hand guns who do you think would win that battle?
- blackopsfreak06, on 05/19/2009, -1/+2Eh...that last post was worded pretty badly...just disregard it, please.
- chriswilson08, on 05/20/2009, -0/+1interesting point.
- g00dETH3R, on 05/19/2009, -2/+2The Fed has already started to buy treasury bonds (printing money), while China and others are not interested, yet borrowing and debt obligations keep increasing, the war's continue. History demonstrates that nearly every every empire in this situation has resorted to violence. The question is who will be the target?
- kalosnycta, on 05/19/2009, -1/+1I see your point, but arguing against "no American casualties" will always be a losing proposition. But even aside from that, I think you're wrong. Practically every sector that has become automated has become cheaper to run, and smaller in size. The Air Force is fighting very hard to keep human pilots, because they put a human face on their organization and keep their massive funding intact. In an all-machine air fleet, spending cuts will seem rather impersonal. In my opinion, that's probably a good thing.
- blackopsfreak06, on 05/19/2009, -3/+3You make a point. However, it does seem like some excessive spending during a time of economic recession.
- sdipaola, on 05/25/2009, -0/+0I read it - I thought that Accelerated Development and Production of Therapeutics was kinda BS. Of all the things we could do with say 20 years of peace (or good for people) research - this to me would not be one of them - it would take a lot lot longer - we barely known how the human body works with doctors/pharma companies giving out drugs on one possible affect rather than some kind of actual medical understanding.
- obliviousfool, on 05/19/2009, -1/+1Welcome to the public part of the expensive and black-budgeted world of military research. Let the killing and oppression begin!
- greytotw, on 05/19/2009, -3/+2I don't think war is badass. Is badass being a nerd that knowingly creates machines that shred people into pieces? I think is despicable, inmoral and just plain disgusting.
This guy says war is "badass" because he repeats like a parrot the deformed american view of war where it shifts into a game where all men are divided into brave and just (us) and coward and vile (them). And of course in that game, war never means destruction, poverty, terror, death or hunger because war always happens in a third world country far far from home and there is always a soundtrack to it (never a soundtrack to the decades of despair after it).
To my friend "badass", you should try to investigate and imagine what war really means. - blackopsfreak06, on 05/19/2009, -3/+2I wonder what would happen if we just took our research budget and used it to fight hunger both domestically and abroad.
- greytotw, on 05/19/2009, -1/+0You are so right! these are the words I was looking for.
- inactive, on 05/19/2009, -13/+9Stop spending our money!
we already have fantastic weapons tech that can kill people very well thank you.
Develop new longer lasting roads and bridges.
if we are faced with a truly new advanced enemy that is threatening us then by all means build a new bomb. but until then, stop spending our money!
Eisenhower was right to warn us about this *****. - blackopsfreak06, on 05/19/2009, -6/+2Do you really think America's politicans and military want to stop?
- tgc1, on 05/19/2009, -7/+3I am completely unimpressed. If your country was enjoying an economic surplus, i'd say go for it. But in this economy? You'd have to be ***** braindead to spend MORE money on advancing military technology against an imaginary foe. There is yet to be a military in the world that spends as much as the US does on its military, and yet to be a military that can match its firepower.
This seems more like the military industrial complex to me. Defense contractors blowing billions on ***** just because they know the government will back it. Here's a shiny new-thingamabob. Not like the old shiny thingamabob... no this one comes in red. Oh, and it's a sweet deal, if you buy in bulk it's only 50 million per unit.
I'm not saying there should be no military spending. I'm saying that spending like crazy on the military when no threat exists is retarded. Sure, preparation is fine. But again, spending on new projects and new developments and advancements in the face of an economic crisis.... yeah good luck with that. - Culero, on 05/19/2009, -6/+1I'd love to be on the development side of me. Thinking about it makes me giddy.
- sdipaola, on 05/19/2009, -8/+2You wonder if we put this much time, money, talent and tech into peace systems for a few years (say 20) would we do better (less conflict, less future money needed to have less conflict) than with the historical big stick toys approach. What would that tech look like? VR and edu systems so all know how others live; info systems that allow all around the world to be educated out of ignorance or being manipulated by their leaders. Not as badass for sure, but imagine all the people ...
One simple rule that intelligent people from other worlds might have in deciding when it is time to make first contact with a world - when a planet's people spend more of their collective money on things that help each other than kill each other. - coondoggie, on 05/18/2009, -9/+1where's the james bond stuff?
- AbsurdParadox, on 05/19/2009, -15/+4It's amazing what you can do with an unlimited budget of stolen money!
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