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- cday, on 09/05/2008, -3/+55Thousands, THOUSANDS of pirates?? Gasp!
Why, they must have been surrounded by 'em! Does ISP stand for Island Sea Patrol? How heroic of them to be savin' Virgins and all that, but you'd think they'd do more than turn over their names. Maybe some punishment more fitting to dastardly pirates, like burning their ships, hangin' 'em from the yardarms, and confiscating their ill-gotten goods!
Huh? What's that you say? They're not talking about evil, pillaging villains of the High Seas? They're only talking about file sharers???
Oh.
"Never Mind." - Visual77, on 09/05/2008, -0/+14Better than Biden, the RIAA's knight in shining armor.
- DforSpiD, on 09/05/2008, -2/+16... says the fourth comment
- NUBxKILLA, on 09/05/2008, -6/+18This might be just me, but, every time i see an article on digg about piracy i click my pirate bay shortcut and look at top 100 files. :D
- goldfenix, on 09/05/2008, -2/+14Well, I'm off to pirate something in protest of this.
Hm... let's see here... oooh, Wanted, I had been waiting to see that! If it's a good film I'll probably pick up the dvd after watching!
(See, this is exactly how piracy hurts the industry, don't you pirates understand?!?!) - Katana, on 09/05/2008, -1/+12If they have done this, then they've violated the data protection act by giving the details without the users permission.
- brickbat, on 09/05/2008, -1/+11All this for a lame little pinball game? WTF? They will be going for the death penalty next.
- PL3NTY, on 09/04/2008, -5/+14*****, It's a good job I have a seed box.
- IG64, on 09/05/2008, -1/+10Rapin' your churches and burnin' your women.
- twiztidsinz, on 09/05/2008, -6/+13Go to court dressed as a pirate..
"Arrrr yer Arrrrner.... Me thinks there's been some mistake.." - davzie, on 09/05/2008, -0/+7SSL Usenet has suddenly become very handy for me.
- Visual77, on 09/05/2008, -1/+7It's illegal but it shouldn't be. It is a changing industry climate and a new business model needs to adapt to digital distribution of infinite goods. It's not our fault they don't understand how to make money by offering us something for which we are willing to pay.
In addition, the evidence used to prosecute in the U.S. is so ridiculously flimsy, the RIAA actually argued that they shouldn't need evidence because it's so hard to get evidence.
On top of that, legitimate P2P users (like the open source community) get shafted because P2P transfers are condemned and occasionally throttled.
You don't have to be pro-copyright infringement (which is ***** anyway, as I stated above) to be pro-tech industry. You just have to stop putting government regulations in place to artifically boost a dying business model (like ridiculous fines for internet radio stations from which traditional radio is exempt).
Once a politician realizes that the market has decided digital goods have little value and that it is the responsibility of the industry to figure out how to use those goods to make profit from tangible goods, they are pro-file sharing.
It's not piracy, it's freedom of information. - WaveRunningNakd, on 09/05/2008, -3/+8Only thousands? Not millions?
C'mon people. Quit slacking. - damack, on 09/05/2008, -8/+13These morons are going to destroy the gaming industry we all learnt one thing from the RIAA and MPAA and that is if you decide to ***** over your customers collectively they ***** you right back.
These people need to get a grip maybe if the games they made didn't suck they'd make more money. - noots, on 09/05/2008, -1/+6i'm cautious of rapidshare, i mean they actively delete content that is reported as illegal, so i have my concerns that they wouldn't hesitate to hand over any logs (if they have any that is) if ordered to do so.
does anyone know what sort of stance rapidshare has? - madirish, on 09/05/2008, -0/+4over where ?
- marshallpeck, on 09/05/2008, -1/+5Perfect.
- inactive, on 09/05/2008, -0/+4It's only a matter of time...
- kirado4, on 09/05/2008, -0/+3Go make ***** games that no ones buys, then seed them on a torrent.. then sue people.. easy way to make money.. who's the pirate now?
- locojones, on 09/05/2008, -1/+4Perhaps you'd like to enlighten us on exactly what laws they are breaking? I won't expect an answer because they aren't breaking any.
- kirado4, on 09/05/2008, -1/+4copyright infringement is not theft.. go look it up in a dictionary.. it's not hard.
Oh and people are getting subpoenas for stuff they might have downloaded altho there is no way to know for sure.. - inactive, on 09/05/2008, -0/+3No you won't.
- BananaGrabber, on 09/05/2008, -2/+5I do all my pirating through rapidshare/megaupload/mediafire nowadays. I can't remember the last time I used bit torrent. Nothing against it.
- Ynot82, on 09/05/2008, -0/+3over there
- kirado4, on 09/05/2008, -0/+3***** behaviour.. the pro-you are guilty until proven innocent game lobby, are digging this down.. hope you are proud of yourselves.
- kirado4, on 09/05/2008, -1/+4why is this getting dug down.. if the game industry wants to get ***** up by attacking people.. they will pay the consequences.. game fans are a lot more zealous than music fans..
- FreddieD, on 09/05/2008, -0/+3This is not a matter of "if" but "when". As soon as the a government entity (presumably the FCC) creates their own anti-piracy section to act as the MPAA, average joe file sharer days will be numbered. They will seed fake copies of whatever, and if you share with them then your ISP will get a fine of some sort. And that will be the end of that, because the ultimate goal would be achieved of putting the screws to people at the ISP level.
THEN the next step is for people to pay for SSL proxies such as PrivacyTorrent which routes your information through a country with more lax laws. - BananaGrabber, on 09/05/2008, -0/+3The book was terrible.
- TheImaginator, on 09/05/2008, -0/+3If you sign a contract saying they can sniff your internet packets and look inside them and give your data to all and sundry and use Phorm on you and so forth then...
...unless you can prove that you didn't understand the full terms of the contract and that those terms were not communicated to you effectively, then you are screwed.
No law shall protect the prole in this case. - inactive, on 09/06/2008, -0/+3Hey, I know we are a bunch of fat violent morons, but I bet you at least 40% of America can find Euroland on the map.
- weeFred, on 09/05/2008, -1/+4My friend got one of these from Virgin on behalf of the BPI. It named the artist whose copyright he was allegedy infringing and told him to stop or it could be taken further. I don't think ISPs have any right to sniff their customers traffic, doesn't that violate some law?
- jamesmcm, on 09/06/2008, -0/+2Yeah but only uploading is a crime so it doesn't matter if they hand over download logs.
- dadioflex, on 09/05/2008, -0/+2Which is fine UNTIL Rapidshare is forced to surrender their logs. Pirate through IRC, it gets harder to be sold out.
- vat0r, on 09/05/2008, -2/+4Why thank you sir. It is an accomplishment I have been working on for over a decade.
- dadioflex, on 09/05/2008, -0/+2"What the hell is wrong with you people?"
Nothing. - smurfsahoy, on 09/05/2008, -0/+2I have looked it up - apparently you haven't. Theft is taking somebody's property without permission. A copyrighted song is a label's property (or artist or whoever), not yours. So when you gain possession of it without paying (payment is the terms by which the owners will willingly give your ownership), you are stealing it. Pretty straightforward.
And when you talk about people being subpoenaed, it's obviously implied that the charges are only alleged. Don't be an asshat. - dadioflex, on 09/05/2008, -0/+2Probably already in the EULA. You shouldn't get confused about having the sort of rights the US citizens do just because you think it's cool. They can let their kids drink beer and watch porn and rattle the constitution if anyone says anything. Here we have laws which are mostly sensible and rigid. If you really want your kids to watch porn and learn how to kill people then I guess you could disagree with me, secure in the knowledge that your children would be taken off you and put into foster homes because you were bad, bad parents. In a civilized country.
- locojones, on 09/05/2008, -0/+2Yeah, you're so wrong it sets a new record for being wrong.
You don't control your personal information when you put it onto the public internet, nor can you assert any protections against a legally issued subpoena for that information.
Habeas corpus has nothing to do with identities, but rather is a principle that one cannot be imprisoned indefinitely without having the charges and authority of the captor examined by the court.
And innocent until proven guilty is a concept of criminal law, whereas the vast majority of copyright lawsuits occur in the civil law arena, where that maxim is totally inapplicable. - kevyn, on 09/16/2008, -0/+2fuuuuuuuck....
- Panda129, on 09/05/2008, -0/+2One has to wonder on what factual basis a decision is made that a user is suspected of taking part in illegal file sharing and what safeguards are in place to ensure that innocent users are not tarnished with the same brush. For more on this see the post entitled 'Topware and the ISP6' on the blog http://cyberpanda-cyberpanda.blogspot.com/
- Sillywombat, on 09/06/2008, -0/+2A couple months ago, there was a story about how virgin was reassuring all its customers that this wouldnt happen. I left a comment saying it would sooner or later.
But i never expected it to ahppen only a cople of months. Virgin, ***** bunch of *****!
http://digg.com/tech_news/Absolutely_No_Possibilit ... - MattBlackCat, on 09/05/2008, -2/+4No because it's happening somewhere Americans would have trouble finding on a map.
- TheImaginator, on 09/05/2008, -1/+3Erm, data protection perhaps...perhaps the right to hold our personal information and not give it out unless we want to, whereby haebeus corpus principle suggests our identities belong to us and they should not take our right to our identities from us and then give it away to all and sundry unless we are proven guilty - with the onus being on the state to prove us guilty.
Innocent before being proven guilty.
Am I wrong? - Rotzooi, on 09/05/2008, -2/+4And, idiot, how would you know a game sucked or not without buying it??!
- itanshi, on 09/05/2008, -0/+2Zealousy does not trump piracy. Paying your respect to the artists does not include only appreciating their goods. It should not be your only payment either.
- MattBlackCat, on 09/05/2008, -1/+3WTF - That is an extremely insular point of view.
- SuperIntendent, on 09/05/2008, -6/+7I hope this doesn't lead to ISP's over here trying that stunt.
- tanchosanke, on 09/05/2008, -1/+2Same here.
- inactive, on 09/05/2008, -3/+4You are the moron - if the games suck you don't buy them idiot.
- DontGiveADamn, on 09/05/2008, -2/+3For me it's very simple, the first time my ISP ***** with me I will cancel my account. If I have to live without the Internet then so be it.
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