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IFPI Advises Kids to Use LimeWire and Kazaa

torrentfreak.com — Together with the charity Childnet, IFPI recently launched a campaign to educate kids, teachers and parents about the dangers of filesharing. Ironically, the legal alternatives they suggest direct the kids to LimeWire, Kazaa and sites that sell hardcore adult movies.

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  • spydon, on 05/11/2008, -1/+67IFPI doesn't understand the new technologies, they clearly prove that in this article...
  • AppleGeorge, on 05/11/2008, -5/+143People still use LimeWire and Kazaa?
    • mark076h, on 05/11/2008, -22/+46i use LimeWire frequently for single mp3's , do you have a better solution?
      • AppleGeorge, on 05/11/2008, -6/+75Yeah, torrent sites. If you're using a client that has been released within the past 2 years, you have an option to select which files to download. Alot safer and a lot better quality, in my opinion. But hey, stick to your LimeWire idea. I'm sure every MP3 you get is completely clean and a perfect V0 or V2.
        • mark076h, on 05/11/2008, -20/+1i remember some site that you could use to do this but you still had to start the download of the whole torrent?
        • Culyt, on 05/11/2008, -0/+29You don't have to download a whole torrent if your client support individual file selection such as Azureus or Transmission.
        • Makaveli604, on 05/11/2008, -1/+18.. no.

          just checkmark the files you want to dl in utorrent
        • StuTheMeatMan, on 05/11/2008, -3/+18Sometimes the albums are zipped, so it doesn't always work.
          • compu73rg33k, on 05/11/2008, -1/+11Then download a version of the CD that isn't zipped. And find a way to get invited to a quality torrent site and you won't have to worry about this.
          • hermeslyre, on 05/11/2008, -8/+4A private tracker site? Allow me to scoff at that idea, I've used one, the upload quotas can be a bitch to manage. Everyone seed, seed, seeds, so my modest upload speed doesn't even stand a chance. The only way around it is to watch the new torrents closely and download some ***** you don't want that's in a position to net you some equality.
          • Fordi, on 05/12/2008, -0/+3I never did understand that. Music, Video and Images are already packed as tightly as they reasonably can be. Why the hell stick them in a zip/rar container? It doesn't hide anything, and it just makes it a pain in the ass to select what you're after or verify that it's actually there.
          • arcticblue, on 05/12/2008, -0/+2Yeah, bitsoup has an anal rar policy. They want damn near everything rar'd because they say if a piece is bad, you could just go redownload that one piece. Yeah, that was great back in the day of FTP and IRC, but it is completely unnecessary now since bittorrent verifies each segment of a file you are downloading. Unrar-ing Xvids is an annoying waste of time.
          • Makaveli604, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1bitsoup is one of the worst private torrent sites i've seen.. I actually deleted it from my favourites.
        • Makaveli604, on 05/11/2008, -1/+13zip files have no place in torrents, rar files do for other types of media, but for music even the scene releases v2 rips without compression
          • Fordi, on 05/12/2008, -0/+2I will disagree with you there. Software, ISO images, ROMs, eBooks, etc should be compressed. Other media types, it's futile.
        • franksmith, on 05/12/2008, -5/+7Thank goodness people are still using Limewire... all the time.
          Our Computer stores service department makes a LOT of money cleaning viruses from Limewire users. Did one myself just this past Thursday/Friday. Completely pwnd.
          Yeah for Limewire!!!
        • doshindude, on 05/12/2008, -8/+5Torrents don't work for single songs. It's way too much of a hassle.
          • Fordi, on 05/12/2008, -0/+2I guess that's why I use them; I never got the hang of downloading single songs, really. If I think a song is good enough to download, bandwidth has become cheap enough that I feel it's worth it to get the whole disc and check out the remainder.

            And if I really like the whole album, and it's priced right, I'll often buy it.
        • Atomic1fire, on 05/12/2008, -1/+2Perhaps they should go after retail then.
          RIAA Sues Best buy for not reporting pirates!
          knowing them that will probably happen.
      • Callidus, on 05/11/2008, -3/+18FrostWire
        • hmunkey, on 05/11/2008, -0/+8Same network.
        • aliveonarival, on 05/11/2008, -3/+6yeah but frostwire also lets you use torrents
          • Nevarius, on 05/11/2008, -0/+5If i remember correctly Limewire also supports torrents..thou i have no clue how good it is.
        • zeeky, on 05/12/2008, -0/+2shareaza beats limewire for windows and acquisition beats limewire for macs
      • ronaldst, on 05/11/2008, -10/+5eMule. Much better than Ares and any gnutella clients.
        • Mechanicat, on 05/11/2008, -1/+10Emule is slow as hell. Gnutella is much better for small downloads. Just stay the hell away from limewire and use frostwire instead.
          • ronaldst, on 05/11/2008, -1/+2Open your ports. Large downloads take time but small stuff is almost instant. Plus you get access to a pretty large collection of rare stuff.

            IMO gnutella has access to very little. Worse than Ares.
          • Mechanicat, on 05/11/2008, -1/+2What about those huge queues? Have they disappeared since the last time I used it (about 2 years ago). In my experience emule was good for downloading a large number of big obscure files at the same time. Each file would download slow (yes, i forwarded and opened my ports) as hell but if you had many files downloading then you could get a good cumulative download rate. Other than that emule was a good repository, you could find and get almost anything there if you were patient enough. But if you just quickly want an mp3 I find it hard to recommend it. Shareaza's gone to the dogs so the only decent gnutella client is frostwire now afaik.
      • sinkhead, on 05/11/2008, -0/+9Usenet? Although I do agree sometimes it is hard to find singles (sometimes RARed up with the other songs in the album), it is great for albums.
      • Dohko_Xar, on 05/11/2008, -0/+4songbird! try it!
        • ElBeh, on 05/11/2008, -0/+5How do you get single, free, .torrent MP3s with Somgbird? I have the program and love it, but I didn't know it could do that.
          • ElBeh, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1Woah, I just used the built-in music search and it /does/ provide some free MP3s, which is cool. However, the quality, selection, and reliability does not rival that of Limewire/Frostwire/Torrent sites/ etc.
      • telepheedian, on 05/11/2008, -1/+10Skreemr
      • mCanada, on 05/11/2008, -0/+15Sneakernet + thumbdrive + your buddy = untraceable p2p system,
      • QuietThings430, on 05/11/2008, -1/+6Just torrent the entire album. Limewire constantly mislabels music and has crappy demo quality.
      • RAEP, on 05/12/2008, -0/+5soulseek
      • JosephStalin, on 05/12/2008, -8/+5Amazon.

        Seriously, is $0.79-$0.99 going to bankrupt you?
        • Kingoftherings, on 05/12/2008, -1/+4If you buy more than one song, yes.
        • mCanada, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1If I make 1,000,000 per year and my expenses are 9,999,999.01 , well then yes I'm screwed.
      • zongamin, on 05/12/2008, -1/+2Please take the advice and remove limewire from your system.
    • Brenky, on 05/11/2008, -0/+6Soulseek's pretty good.
      • EntropyNine, on 05/11/2008, -1/+4soulseek is good for full albums, I've come to see.
    • stygiansonic, on 05/11/2008, -0/+1IT'S A TRAP!
    • Dunge, on 05/11/2008, -1/+1Direct Connect is the best... probably cause it's not well known and "harder" to use. Try ApexDC++ !
    • doshindude, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1They do now...
    • sk8away212, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1a dieing breed...
  • MasterChief4134, on 05/11/2008, -1/+26Just wait till the kiddos download a virus to their mom or dad's computers.
    • mag1c1an, on 05/11/2008, -1/+1Thats exactly what they want.... then they can say: "See, didnt we tell you these programs are so harmful?? Use the software on our site to rid yourself of troublesome p2p apps"
      • zongamin, on 05/12/2008, -0/+2You seem confused. They are suggesting limewire and Kazza - these two are almost guaranteed to be full of viruses and fake *****.
  • TOZZiE, on 05/11/2008, -1/+91KaZaA still exists?
  • socivitus, on 05/11/2008, -24/+4Livewire and Kazaa are legal? Since when?
    • FapCommander, on 05/11/2008, -1/+28Limewire and Kazaa are legal, its just the stuff that people share on there that isn't
      • mark076h, on 05/11/2008, -0/+10Just like the pirate bay, ARRRRRRR
    • dawglse, on 05/11/2008, -0/+6The actual software is legal, just what people DO and share with them are the illegal part.
      Because, ya know... you CAN share non-copyrighted stuff on there... just that.. nobody does.
  • Craga89, on 05/11/2008, -2/+26As long as your not a complete retard and know how to spot obvious virus-ridden files and malware, limewire and others are fine. I use Frostwire for my music all the time, legally of course, and I've never had problems with it.
    • chedabob, on 05/11/2008, -15/+2Limewire (even the Pro version) is riddled with spyware and adware.
      • ers35, on 05/11/2008, -2/+14Limewire does not come with any spyware or adware. Care to tell me where you got this information?
    • ElBeh, on 05/11/2008, -2/+37Seriously. An MP3 file that's only 400 Kilobytes is obviously not an MP3 file.
      • picpak, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1Unless it's "Short Songs" by Dead Kennedys.
      • PeachCobbler, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1Amen. It's sad how naive some people are. I wish i could digg you up twice. I got 882 diggs for a very similar comment once.
    • darkamster07, on 05/12/2008, -0/+2"legally of course"
      *shifty eyes*
  • sourc3, on 05/11/2008, -0/+27The 90's called. They want their propaganda back.
    These people are "experts?" Dang... I bet what's-her-butt who claims to be making an impact by releasing this "information" on how to legally obtain music is pulling down 6 figures.
    /me wants her job
    • halleyscomet, on 05/11/2008, -2/+1I think you'd need a lobotomy first.
  • Sidzilla, on 05/11/2008, -0/+25I think that Media Sentry is too stupid too figure out a way to track torrent users, so they want everyone on Limewire and KaZaa where they can get nice little screenshots of shared folders and don't actually have to do anything technical to charge the RIAA and MPAA for tracking those gosh darn pirates. They are probably behind all this.
    • MacSuxWindozSux, on 05/11/2008, -0/+8The bittorrent protocol and Azureus (Java2) are open source. I would think that making tracking software for Bittorrent would be easier.
      The only problem is having to continually download torrent files as everyone isn't on one giant network.

      Also remember Aimster? They sued them out of existence for making a protocol that made tracking impossible.
      • Fordi, on 05/12/2008, -0/+2They also have to rebuild the torrent files and bait people to their tracker.
  • hellopenny, on 05/11/2008, -0/+10I want to punch that graphic.
    • picpak, on 05/12/2008, -0/+2There are many ways to enjoy music online: The Pirate Bay, Demonoid, Mininova, isohunt and last.fm.
  • consonance, on 05/11/2008, -0/+56People, people, the IFPI actually has a plan here. Just follow me for a minute. Okay, the IFPI actually DOES want kids to use Limewire and Shareaza. Encouraging this trend and increased policing of the used networks will result in the IFPI finding children who have infringed on copyright. Instead of threatening these youngsters and their families with enormous fines a la mafia-style intimidation, the IFPI will graciously allow families to allow their children to participate in "rehabilitation," where the anti-piracy organization will teach kids about the merits of buying media legally.

    Instead, the IFPI will test its secret super-soldier serum on these innocents, resulting in giant musclehead mutants akin to the Hulk who are pliable and naive due to their age, so that the IFPI will convince them that society was the cause of their troubles. Finally, the monster children will go on a rampage and ravish the Earth, where the the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry, who are actually wizards, will rule us all.
  • amanilaenvelope, on 05/11/2008, -0/+10oh snap
    IFPI, i guess your plan backfired.
    what now bitches.
  • TopSlacker, on 05/11/2008, -0/+16You couldn't make this stuff up...
  • ThreeDee912, on 05/11/2008, -0/+12Well, it could be an experiment. The Limewire/Gnutella network is filled with tons of crap. If people actually listen to the IFPI and get a virus, they will probably get frustrated and abandon file sharing altogether.

    Or it could be some kind of legal trap, so if someone sues them for some kind of anti-file-sharing thing, they could say "But we DO support safe file-sharing!"

    OR it could be easier to track people using Limewire/Kazaa.

    Who knows... -_-
  • summercrush, on 05/11/2008, -3/+13this is how the big companies expose little kids to porn?
    I always just invite them into my apartment and show them all my nude shots.
    Call me old fashioned.
  • yhan, on 05/11/2008, -0/+3I love these suits in all their ignorance.
  • bb112266, on 05/11/2008, -0/+7I do not understand. If it is legal to copy a music on the radio, or a movie/tv show on television, then what is the issue with p2p? Unless they do not sell what they copy, then there should be no problem with p2p, yes?
    • Kazanoe, on 05/11/2008, -0/+3I was under the impression that the radio parent companies generally have to buy the right to play the music.
      If that's not true, there's still the fact that the Radio and shows and such are good publicity, but you don't get you're personal playlist played. The idea is that in order to listen to what you want to listen to, you have to buy the music for yourself.
    • eean, on 05/11/2008, -0/+7the radio station has to pay...
      • sebby2022, on 05/11/2008, -1/+2Well, for that song to be on the network, someone had to pay for it......In theory.......
    • HolyChimp, on 05/12/2008, -0/+2It's uploading that they do you for. Distributing copyrighted materials without the original copyright holders consent I believe they call it. As far as I'm aware, no one has actually been fined for downloading content, but with all modern p2p you upload to others while you download.
  • Shawshanksr, on 05/11/2008, -2/+32***** THE RIAA
    • mark076h, on 05/11/2008, -0/+12and Scientology!
    • ArielMT, on 05/11/2008, -0/+11Use protection if you do.
    • QuietThings430, on 05/11/2008, -1/+4***** them? But they're old, corrupt, gross and have horrible taste in music.
  • bbliss17, on 05/11/2008, -0/+3lol


    they are a little behind.
  • shady8x, on 05/11/2008, -1/+10Awesome news, hope someone uses this in a court case claiming entrapment...
  • whytey, on 05/11/2008, -0/+10You may also come across terms
    including “peer-to-peer” “file-sharing”, “Wifi”, “social
    networking” or “Bluetooth”.

    O'Rly ?
  • JimmySpaza, on 05/11/2008, -0/+6Unfortunately, governments prove to be even more clueless than some parents are.
  • MacDevyn, on 05/11/2008, -7/+2You're an internet noob if you don't know what kazaa is.
  • ECas123, on 05/11/2008, -0/+11Screw that. I know of this Russian site where you can get music for only 2 cents a piece. The only thing is....all the songs are in Russian.
    • lcmatt, on 05/11/2008, -0/+3I use http://www.gomusic.ru/ sometimes, it has tons of current international bands. Albums are around £2.50 with no DRM.
      • zakatov, on 05/12/2008, -0/+4Too bad it's still illegal, in case you didn't know
      • zongamin, on 05/12/2008, -0/+2You are an idiot. Why are you paying to download illegally?
    • btchsntsht, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1 < /the office reference> ?
    • Kingoftherings, on 05/12/2008, -0/+3allofmp3.com? I think thats still illegal, and if you're going to break the law you might as well just torrent it for free.
  • falafelkiosken, on 05/11/2008, -0/+6Kazaa… limewire, of course, the all the pirating kids will get viruses
  • synergye, on 05/11/2008, -0/+7***** THE IFPI!
  • widgetmaker, on 05/11/2008, -0/+3http://www.playitcybersafe.com/pdfs/TG-CopyrightCr ... Hilariously bad comic from some software body. Sums up how they think propaganda will convince people to stop using p2p apps.
    • HolyChimp, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1Fun read, but PDF warning for those that need it.
  • Kikkoman, on 05/11/2008, -0/+8LOL, LIMEWIRE
    http://cristgaming.com/pirate.swf
  • mag1c1an, on 05/11/2008, -2/+0Lot more on this can be found here: http://digg.com/music/IFPI_to_kids_Don_t_download_ ...
    It gives credit to TF for the original article and then goes a bit more indept

    Cheers!
  • OmegaWolf, on 05/11/2008, -2/+1IFPI are a bunch of idiots! Kazaa and LimeWire, safe and legit? Please! Those things will give you malware a soon as they'll give you music. The better alternative is FrostWire, which uses LimeWire's network, but doesn't give you malware.
  • Sofi4n, on 05/11/2008, -0/+3google + warez boards + torrents

    This combination can bring you almost everything you want, almost.
  • Ocelot13, on 05/11/2008, -3/+1frostwire ftw
  • HotDogBun, on 05/11/2008, -0/+2Why don't they just go to the kids' houses and put the spyware on their computers themselves?
  • Dunge, on 05/11/2008, -3/+1Direct Connect
  • netneutrality, on 05/11/2008, -0/+2Christ, that's ridiculous. What total morons. They should've got the kids to write the leaflet!
  • Maratanos, on 05/12/2008, -1/+0It could very well be a problem limited to one or more of the regions they group things by. It appears that the author of this article, from the Netherlands, only looked at the "Europe and Africa" section. And it's entirely possible that the other regions have better pickings, and are about as far as anyone high up in the organization actually looked. Now granted, it's still pretty stupid on their part, seeing as how nothing I just said is justification in any way. But it does provide a plausible way for IFPI to not be quite as much of a bunch of total morons as this article might make it seem.
  • hellotyler, on 05/12/2008, -0/+3Just trying to add to the government botnet.
  • Kingoftherings, on 05/12/2008, -0/+2Stay away from them nasty Bittorrents kids.
    Use something safe like Limewire.
  • sk8away212, on 05/12/2008, -0/+2All the free porn and viruses a little kid could ever want
  • broodking, on 05/12/2008, -2/+1most ppl i no that dont no about torrents or rs use limewire.
    cause all u do is search for a song download that song then u can listen to it or put it on ur ipod
    its that easy
  • ljsmithx, on 05/12/2008, -0/+2Torrents FTW
  • gnimsh, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1Telling people to use limewire gives them more people to sue!
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