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IE 7 site leads to Firefox hole

zdnetasia.com — Microsoft may be on the verge of releasing the latest version of its Internet Explorer (IE) Web browser, but it has been beaten by a competitor to the use of the IE 7 domain name.

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  • attila, on 10/12/2007, -12/+54Haha, that's great! Cue the lawsuits..
    • IpHa, on 10/12/2007, -5/+49How could there be lawsuits? As far as I know this is completely legal.
    • Gregd, on 10/12/2007, -4/+73http://www.ie7.com/ is the site mentioned in the article.
    • i440, on 10/12/2007, -2/+38There was never a (legit) http://www.ie6.com/ ...
    • noamsml, on 10/12/2007, -1/+62http://internetexplorer7.com/ leads to some obscure download site.
      http://explorer.com/ is a domain squatter
      http://ie7.org/ is a domainsquatter
      same for http://microwsoft.com/

      they should learn from http://www.gppgle.com/
    • thewebguy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+219the title is misleading, making it seem like a site owned by microsoft revelas a security hole in firefox.
    • itanshi, on 10/12/2007, -7/+66not to encourage myself to be modded, but damn this is old news
    • diggywiggit, on 10/12/2007, -22/+26Awww Microsoft is crying and calling mama lawyer. Stop bullying him Firefox!
    • vertigoblue, on 10/12/2007, -30/+3what the hell is gppgle.com?
      why?
    • skyhighrockets, on 10/12/2007, -8/+45So basically, Microsoft doesn't own ie7.com, and they want it. Thats about all the article says.

      Who really cares?
    • thatsmyaibo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27I don't know if you all remember this kid by the name Mike Roe Soft. He was a 17 year old who got sued for making that his domain.

      http://andrewsinclair.org/archive/microsoft_sues_mike_roe_soft.htm
    • borninda818, on 10/12/2007, -1/+36http://www.ie6.com/
      http://ie5.com/
      http://ie4.com/
      http://ie.com/

      Microsoft doesn't use any of these. Why should ie7 be different?
    • JeremyBanks, on 10/12/2007, -3/+30IE8.com - IE13.com are all taken, mostly by domain squatters.

      I'm taking the hopeful outlook that there won't be an IE13. :P
    • diggywiggit, on 10/12/2007, -17/+12IE will be dead by IE10
    • brianjameskirk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7@ thatsmyaibo: +dugg for the hilarious line in that blog, "Maybe I should register MikeRoeChip.com, which appears to be available right now."
    • PAJK, on 10/12/2007, -10/+20This seriously rocks. What's so great about it is, M$ can't file any kind of lawsuit, because ie7.com is not reaping any profits, and therefore surely cannot be considered cybersquatting.

      What bloggers should do is link to ie7.com in their blogrolls, to ensure that it goes up in the search engine results.
    • scott1, on 10/12/2007, -14/+3deleted.
    • stimuli, on 10/12/2007, -16/+4Old news...this site has been out there for a few months.

      No Digg
    • MeltedUFO, on 10/12/2007, -18/+8This is old. I've been to www.ie7.com with the Firefox logo 3 months ago thanks to Stumble Upon.
    • ButtholeSurfer, on 10/12/2007, -15/+5old...
    • CBTF, on 10/12/2007, -15/+4Holy crap I didn't know you could be front paged for REALLY REALLY old news. I should start!
    • Cl1mh4224rd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4thatsmyaibo wrote:
      > I don't know if you all remember this kid by the name Mike Roe Soft. He
      > was a 17 year old who got sued for making that his domain.

      Heh. His name wasn't Mike Roe [sic] Soft, it was just Mike Rowe. The 'Soft' was short for 'software', eventhough he was a web designer.
    • slf67, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"they should learn from http://www.gppgle.com/"

      Indeed, but they didn't get http://www.giigle.com
    • r2d7, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4lol @ the dumb ***** thinking MS can't touch the jerkoff who did this. If someone registered firefox2.com or ff2.com (or any other version number) and did this you'd all scream troll, and that's *exactly* what the dick who did this is.

      The bankruptcy filing the "legitimate" company acting in "good faith" with Microsoft's trademark (please google trademark kids) is going to be a lot more amusing.
    • jadeshade, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5"the title is misleading, making it seem like a site owned by microsoft revelas a security hole in firefox."

      Even worse, it's a PUN!
  • attila, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14lpha, there could be lawsuits if Microsoft trademarked "IE7" (and they probably did). Considering 'Internet Explorer 7' is affectionately referred to as IE7, I would surmise that it makes good business sense for them to trademark it. Microsoft is a smart company, despite what some people give them credit for, and I don't think they would let something signifnicant, like trademarking the name of one of their flagship apps to slip their mind.
    • attila, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8The point is, there can be reprisal by Microsoft to stop the cybersquatter, which this apparently is, as the domain was registered in 1999. The Anticybersquatting Consumer Protection Act subjects anyone who "registers, traffics in or uses a domain name that is identical to, confusingly similar or dilutive of" an existing trademark to up to US$100,000 in damages.
    • eplawless, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14When was Internet Explorer 7 trademarked? Does the Internet Explorer trademark apply for all future products?
      Do you think that this will make enough of a difference that Microsoft will see any sizable decrease in profits at all?
    • hobophobe, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21Unfortunately the article states the domain is registered in the UK, which is outside the jurisdiction of US law.
    • mabhatter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10except this site has been around quite a while... looks like it was registered in 1999. so these guys aren't squatting at all. Microsoft only offically named IE7 within the last year... You can't squat on unnamed products.
    • treelovinhippie, on 10/12/2007, -7/+7They would have had to trademarked the domain worldwide (or in the UK as stated above) before the domain was registered.

      But alas... HAIL FIREFOX! (die IE7)
    • theblackgecko, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Don't you know that "IE7" stands for Important Enterprises 7? For that matter, I consider myself quite the internet explorer, ever since exploring it on that Netscape browser back when I ran Win 3.11. Hey, Microsoft has been squatting on my nickname all along!
  • anagoge, on 10/12/2007, -7/+8You have to appreciate the humour at ie7.com.

    ...But they're still going to get their ass kicked by Microsoft.
  • wisedude, on 10/12/2007, -4/+47This has been submitted ten times..... Also, it wasn't done by mozilla, a fanboy of firefox did this
  • coheedcollapse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+38When I saw "FIrefox Hole" and took it into context I thought that there was a security problem. Also it confused the hell out of me.

    Funny story though.
    • Klisk, on 10/12/2007, -10/+3"Firefox hole" just made me think of something very, very, very kinky including the firefox mascot and something phallic.
    • sixdays, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Author tried to be funny "IE leads to fox hole" like were the hole a fox is hiding. Though I agree with you that it backfired.
  • elnerdo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Considering they didn't use the www.ie6.com domain name, I highly doubt that they were planning on getting the ie7 name, and I'm fairly sure that if they wanted to get it, they could very easily.
  • SpanishBrowne, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5"Also, it wasn't done by mozilla, a fanboy of firefox did this"

    thanks for clarifying that wisedude... couldn't have picked that up from the article....
  • dopesick, on 10/12/2007, -7/+4No kidding, no one in their right minds at mozilla would even thinking of crossing that line.

    Besides, wouldn't it be http://ie7.microsoft.com ?
  • todd987, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Brilliant!
  • deMonkey, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Repost. Again.
  • msgyrd, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4Marked as innacurate.

    Title is misleading and the synopsis claims it was done by Microsoft's competitor, which is just false.
    • xophonic, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1Why isn't one of Microsofts biggest competitors in the browser biz qualified as a competitor. I'm confused.
    • elnerdo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6And you are confused rightly. It wasn't done by Mozilla. It was just done by some random guy.
  • anthonyretro, on 10/12/2007, -7/+24I still find it hard to believe that Microsoft can own the rights to the letters i, e, and the number 7.

    If this were to go to court, our legal system would closely resemble an episode of Sesame Street.
    • lakawak, on 10/12/2007, -10/+12So, how is that any different that Apple trademarking the letters i, p, o and d? They are all just letters too, right?Oh...i see...because it is Apple it is OK. But Microsoft should not be allowed to trademark letters in a certain combination that makes it obvious what it is referring to.
    • duality, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I got a good laugh out of Anthony's comment.

      Unfortunately, you may also remember that there is a company in the UK which has the trademark where you put a G in front of the word "mail". I realize that in the U.S., Intel was denied the right to trademark the number 486, and UPS was denied the right to trademark the color brown, but I don't exactly know how things might play out under UK law.

      Oh yeah. Apple is trying to trademark the word "pod" right now, with or without the i in front of it. Did I leave any others out? (Darn it, lakawak beat me to that last statement by 3 minutes, and he already has a negative digg to that post.)
    • wingnut21, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14ABC? CBS? NBC? FOX?

      And let's not forget...

      3M
    • barius, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@lakawak

      Wow, you Microsoftie fanbois are really on the defensive these days! I think anthonyretro was making a point about how ridiculous International Trademark law is, and not specifically about Microsofts' use thereof. Next time, try taking a deep breath and counting to 10 before posting, it would really help you relax.
    • lakawak, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2There is NOTHING wrong with abeing able to trademark IE7, or iod. Nothing. You can bitch like the little pussy that you are regarding how evil the trademarking laws are, but remember, like hte rest of your life, you are sadly alone in this.
    • noGoodNamesLeft, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"If this were to go to court, our legal system would closely resemble an episode of Sesame Street."

      IE7.com is brought to you by the letters "F" and "U".....

      Had to be said, sorry. :)
  • iAlex, on 10/12/2007, -12/+15Firefox is much better!
  • NismoDrift, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5wow this is crazy anyway, thats not illegal. Totally legit, I mean come on the person got the domain faster than Microsoft. Besides, I always thought that companies buy domains way before anyone knows about their product. Eitherway digg for the humor. It would be gay tho if Microsoft sues them, thats retarded, cuz theyd probably make this site redirect to a different site.
    • lakawak, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3someone had Cosmo.com and they had to give it to Cosmopolitan magazine. So ypour GUESSES that there is nothing that could be done (or that it is "gay...what are you 12 years old?) are wrong.
  • Justin6512, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3I think this is a dublicate story, but it's still cool. digg
  • steeel, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11***** I should go grab ie8.com and squat!
    • lakawak, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1Why? There is no indciation that Microsoft gives a flying ***** about ie7.com. So what would you accomplish?
    • xophonic, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Someone beat you and FF to that one. you're going to have to wait until ie11, that one's still up for grabs. At M$ current rate of developement we should expect that one around the second quarter of 2080.
  • PJ88, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5CYBERSQUATTED!
  • xophonic, on 10/12/2007, -13/+3HA!!! take that M$. doubt it's really that big an issue but is funny nutheless!!! I like the novelty sized FF logo on the site. I actually lol'd
    • lakawak, on 10/12/2007, -11/+16Wow! A dollar sign! How clever! Did you just come up with that yourself?
    • xophonic, on 10/12/2007, -15/+5Yes, I did. Check out my website at www.M$.com . BTW Quit being a Dick.
  • noeljohnhoward, on 10/12/2007, -9/+5www.iesucks.com
    • noeljohnhoward, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1This is really cool

      didnt they have like

      IEsucks.com or something?

    • sixdays, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2No, IE ***** blows :D
  • placebofx, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2They should have timer on the site to see how long until MSFT's lawyers convince them to take it down.
  • usergentoo, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3no digg misleading title
  • ravenofwinter, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3This is what comes from anybody and everybody being able to run a website. If I had a nickel for every time I ran into a lame-o squatting site, I'd not bother searching the web. I'd pay somebody to do it for me.
  • shadowing, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0Someone should try to take ie8.com now
  • nhlarry, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2ie7.com has been online for at least a couple of months now
  • jjesusfreak01, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Well, when you accuse someone of cybersquatting, there are a couple things to think about. Does the person have a legitimate use and claim on the address. If you registered, "Micro-soft.com", and you owned a company that made small plush toys, you might have a good claim on that domain, especially if your company was named Micro-soft (plus, you could theoretically try to TM Micro-soft, then you would definitely be in the clear). If the person has this sort of claim they should be left alone. Then you move on to the real cyber squatters who register domains just to get traffic. Now, you may be saying, "Stick it to MS, they deserve it", but remember, not all domain squatters are little guys sticking up for their favorite browser. Some of them are large corporations that make money by putting useless search info on the site you accidently went to. Now wouldnt you rather a legitimate company (or the one you were trying to get to) owned the domain. It would solve alot of problems. My father worked for a small startup, and when they registered thier domains, they made sure to get just about anything that you could accidently type when trying to get to their site, as to avoid this problem. MS has a more difficult job because there are people actively trying to squat from them, whereas small companies dont have this problem as much. If you want a real world example of why this is a problem, try to remember the early days of Whitehouse.com
    • xophonic, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Here here. The sooner we take steps to get rid of time wasting garbage like this and other internet nuisances the better. Its still a little funny though.
  • Raian, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I think this is a wonderful parody, a great work of art-- all things that I believe are protected under the law.

    • jjesusfreak01, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Hmm, parody...no...fanboy...yes!

      A parody is a significant work that is duplicated on a large scale but changed in some ways so that it is not identical to the original, but still recognizable as similar to the original.

      If I write "Raian", is that a parody? Maybe if I write Rain...
    • Raian, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3I rarely ever use firefox-- I'm a mac whore
  • insinuate, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2microsoft...owned yet again.
  • slicedoranges, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2Cool, I just won a bet.

    Keep on putting articles on the front page 50 times, digg.
  • ThePilgrim, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13Man, so hard to pick the bury option

    It is Lame
    It is a Dupe
    It is Inaccurate

    http://digg.com/search?area=all&age=all&sort=new&search-buried=1&s=ie7.com&submit=Search



  • ThePilgrim, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1[bah post glitch]
  • WackyT, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1"Microsoft last month had filed three lawsuits in a U.S. federal court against cybersquatters it alleges reaped profits in bad faith. The suits revolve around over 600 domain names."

    I guess what's good for Digg is also good for Microsoft, right?
  • TRENT310, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1That site's been around for a very long time now, old news.
  • itanium, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0I viewed the 'get firefox' site on firefox...
    now that's what you call ironic...

    I also doubt the skill of this guy's lawyers vs. bill gates' ex employer's lawyers
  • crazyman, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1Dick move by mozilla. But all the better for us.
    • renegadeafk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7it says on the site that it's not affiliated with mozilla right on the top...
  • AMDnVidiaATi, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2Firefox for life
    • CBTF, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Really? People like you used to say netscape for life.
    • Peeps, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I love pledging my allegiance to software too, because that's what it's all about.
    • sneakerelph, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3firefox ~= netscape.

      they both use Gecko as their engine.
  • Hellfire51, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1I agree with the misleading title thing. Perhaps intentional to get views?
  • berlette, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1Firefox for life indeed. Too bad its a dupe (10 times over or so).
  • JeremyBanks, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This page's code isn't compliant at all!
    • allan17, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2...and that has what to do with the article?
  • zacmccormick, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3This article is lame and this isn't even new. That domain name has been up forever now. The truth is it doesn't matter AT ALL because anyone looking for IE and going to ie7.com is going to notice INSTANTLY it has nothing to do with IE and hit the back button, big F'ing deal. Anyone looking for IE is doing just that, looking for IE, not looking for firefox. If they were looking for firefox, they would have gone to firefox.com. They should replace the firefox logo on that page with a "HEY LOOK THIS SITE IS MISLEADING AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH INTERNET EXPLORER!", it would have the same effect on visitors. In fact I think it's rather unethical to jack a domain name of another product and put up links to your product, or a product you prefer over the one you are claiming to be in order to gain traffic. Just because it's legal doesn't mean you should do it. Firefox is an awesome web browser and I prefer it over IE, but I don't like when firefox people do stuff like this.

    You don't think that when IE3, 4, 5, or 6 came out that MS would have bought ie7.com if they thought it even mattered? ie7.com domain was registered in 1999, MS had years to pick it up, but they don't care because none of their products are branded that way.

    People are much more likely to type in ie7 into google and find the correct page. Who the hell searches the internet by typing into the URL bar? Hell, I even use google sometimes when I already know the URL haha...

    Stop posting links to articles that just incite IE hatred, it's rather lame.
    • pixelperfect, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0what is funny is, when you do a google search for ie7... the 2nd site that shows up is ie7.com (Get Firefox)... who ever knows how to google bomb, they should make internet explorer or ie or ie7 go to mozilla.com/firefox...
  • linuxrebel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4hmm comment deleted due to being on the wrong dang page.... grrrr to me.
  • insomniac8400, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Microsoft doesn't want it. If they did, they would have won it via a lawsuit already.
    • sixdays, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hardly. Since they neither own internet explorer or IE7.

      You can have Baldrick's Internet Explorer Suite if you like. As long as you don't try to imply that it is a microsoft product.
  • dhughes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3 www.vista.com is not used either.
    • Escamillo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3So what?
      Apple doesn't own www.tiger.com, www.panther.com, www.leopard.com, etc.
      Apple doesn't even own www.osx.com.
      (But MS does own www.windows.com.)

      This is a nonstory, other than that it illustrates the immaturity of a particular Firefox fanboy. lol
  • Boor, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Ok the Joke im about to make Is very very bad, the worse ive ever made and i apologize for it in advance.

    "Neither this site nor Mozilla is connected with Microsoft."

    Not connected any way other then its foot securly making connecting with its ass! (that is to say Mozilla kicks microsoft butt).

    Uhm ya... couldnt resist. For the love of god mod me down.

  • Philbert, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I still don't get why the word "hole" is even in the title. I too thought it had something to do with a security flaw, then read the article and found there was nothing related to holes of any kind.
    • Gregd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I think it's a play on foxhole. As in Firefox is entrenched in the foxhole on ie7.com. ***** if I know though. I didn't write the title...
  • Bob042, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Haha, that's awesome. What's almost as good, that page is about 7th on the google front page for a search on IE7 or internet explorer 7. Everyone keep referring to it as IE7, and link to that website when possible.
  • greatblackowl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This title's a bit confusing. However, I did have the IE 7 beta installed on a computer earlier, and it seemed to mess up Firefox (IE 7 leads to firefox hole). Anyone else have this issue?
  • sebnukem, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3The morons who burried this story as innaccurate apparently didn't even bother clicking on http://ie7.com
  • romeyinfc, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Hey, "Last Month" called - they want this story back! This is really old!!!
  • Rustynail288, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i dont get why everyone forces everyone else to use firefox who the ***** cares what browser everyone else in the world uses lol. ie7 is actually a good browser i could kinda understand ie6 was pretty crummy and gave ie a bad name compared to firefox but that doesnt mean ie7 sucks
  • AmishSniper, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0Looks like it is owned by TUCOWS INC.

    That "Firefox hole" title is problematic too.
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