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- vtbarrera, on 02/03/2009, -3/+139Any half descent torrent tracking site will have already filtered out the fake files. Not going to find those fakes on sites like thepiratebay or isohunt.
- tuxidomasx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+102***** you both, i get my friends to read me the bits over the telephone
- arkmtech, on 10/12/2007, -3/+75Wouldn't matter - It was someone who hacked my WiFi that did it... not me!
- xsproutx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+70I don't know... I recently (two or three weeks ago) got a cease and desist letter from my ISP attached to a letter from Sony pictures. Listed the two torrents I had downloaded, also. Both of those files were working files and were what they said they were. So how's THAT work? For what it's worth, it WAS from the piratebay. I'm asking out of genuine curiosity here, because now i've stopped most of my downloading (mostly t.v. shows) because I don't feel like dealing with this crap. I'm sure if it happens again, i'll be searching for a new ISP.
- TomP, on 10/12/2007, -2/+61Duggmirror is down nooooo!!
The MPAA, RIAA and several anti-piracy organizations are constantly trying to trap people into downloading fake torrents. These torrents are hosted on trackers that are setup to collect IP addresses of all the ‘pirates’ who try to download these files.
popular fake torrents To make these traps more visible, Fenopy just introduced the FakeFinder. The FakeFinder lists the most popular fake torrents and the latest fake trackers. It also allows you to search for fake torrents by keyword or infohash.
The actual .torrent links for these fake files are blocked, and FakeFinder serves an informational purpose only. It is actually quite amusing to browse through these fake files and trackers. The companies that host these anti-piracy trackers came up with some interesting hostnames like “dirtydevils.cyberbox.com.br” and “bittorrent.isthebe.st“.
Although most of the IPs of these fake trackers are already blocked by blocklist software like PeerGuardian, they still manage to collect the IP addresses of thousands of users who do fall for this trap. Most torrent site admins are aware of these fakes, and remove them as soon as they are uploaded. It is kind of a paradox. On the one hand anti-piracy organizations send thousands of takedown requests to torrent sites, while they upload fake files with similar titles themselves.
Some might argue that downloading a fake file is not really a criminal offense. And yes, it is doubtful if this evidence will hold up in court. However, the job of organizations like the MPAA is to scare people, and that is often enough for them. The first thing they will probably do is send a letter to your ISP saying that you tried to download so-and-so file. And even if they take it a step further, they try to settle before these things are played out in court.
FakeFinder shows that BitTorrent site admins are trying to track down these fake torrents, and it’s a nice way to expose the darker side of anti-piracy organizations like the MPAA. - TonyCubed, on 10/12/2007, -11/+57It's dead Jim.
- Dested, on 10/12/2007, -3/+47Just like your mom.
- FatherG, on 10/12/2007, -1/+441) Don't download from major sites that don't do much filtering (ie mininova)
2) Use vcdquality (if downloading movies) to check what you're downloading
3) Group names are your friend. LOL, DiAMOND, RAZOR, PMS and the like are quality release groups. However you must always...
4) Do your homework. Google search group names to insure what you're downloading is legit
5) Be weary of files that have far more seeds than peers on public trackers, moreso for popular files. Don't worry about it on private trackers; they will always have more seeds thanks to people working their seed/leech ratio.
6) Disable DHT on your BitTorrent client of choice. Yes this will cut down on the # of peers you connect to but it will also make sure you keep a lower profile while downloading.
7) Private trackers (OiNK, Demonoid, etc) are your friend.
Any others to add? - toomuchpete, on 10/12/2007, -1/+39I think the more interesting defense would be:
1. If the torrent was fake, I clearly didn't download anything to which I didn't have the rights.
2. If the torrent worked, the RIAA/MPAA served it to me, thereby consenting to the download
Of course, that being the case, I doubt any case based on evidence like this will ever go to court. They'll just use it to intimidate people who won't hire attorneys. If they ever subjected themselves to the discovery process of a real civil trial they'd have a world of a hard time convincing a judge to grant them any sort of damages. - smegthelight, on 10/12/2007, -1/+39Pfftt..telephone..
We use signal flags..
- adml_shake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+37"Someone hacks in, still your fault if you didn't secure it."
I want you to read that VERY carefully and see if you can spot the error in your argument. - fenixconnektion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+36Entrapment only works when a young welsh woman and an old scottish guy go to Kuala Lumpur to steal a buttload of money on New Year's Eve.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+34"4) Do your homework. Google search group names to insure what you're downloading is legit"
lol, make sure the pirated file you are downloading is legit :) - Markpdotcom, on 10/12/2007, -4/+33No one uses Peer Guardian?
http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2 - blocks all MPAA crap, even if they are tracking on legit torrents.
Edit: Oh, and when you install it, right click on it and uncheck "Block HTML" otherwise you wont be able to surf, that freaks out most people when they first install it! :) - a0me, on 10/12/2007, -4/+28The same thing happened to a few friends.
Once they turned the encryption on on their Torrent client
the C&D letters stopped. - kazsymonds, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24If they could sue you for downloading torrents then surely they themselves should be sued for seeding/uploading them?
- Jonny5alive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+28And Word Press fails again.
- jgtg32a, on 10/12/2007, -5/+28Star Trek quote getting dugg down, the world is going to hell
- jzurawski, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22Entrapment is when someone is put in a situation where they can do nothing but break the law. Say for example a cop that tells you that he is going to shoot you unless you rob the store (extreme example).
Making it easier for you to break the law is not considered entrapment. Take the show Cops, how may times have you seen episodes where they have an unchained bike or a car with the keys sitting inside. The people that steal those items are making the choice to do it. - kllrfoot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22ARE YOU KIDDING ME... signal flags are for n00bz... i prefer the 2 cups with a string in the middle. You should see our network ;)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22When I was in Japan I got a notice from my Japanese ISP about a movie I had downloaded from Pirate Bay, which was also a working file. I got a letter that demanded an apology for downloading the file. If they wanted to scare me, they were successful. I don't download movies now, actually I have always been reluctant to pirate movies, but there just aren't any legit options for getting the files I want (unless you count bits burned on pieces of plastic, so last decade). Give me an option to pay $1 per episode of Prison Break in Europe and I happily will.
- fofusion, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21If you tell the RIAA/MPAA that you have an unsecured wi-fi they drop the case - it's happened a few times.
Even if they did take it to court although I'm sure it'd be a nightmare trying to get non tech-savvy people to understand I'm sure you'd win your case.
But what the hell I'm in the UK so those laws/excuses wont apply here :-D - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21A lot of misinformation in this thread. Don't trust digg comments as authoritative.
- Tweekster, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21INTENT people, it does matter.
you dont actually have to buy real drugs, if you bought fake drugs but thought they were real thats the same as buying real drugs (just because you got ripped off is completely irrelevant)
intent does count (and is easy to determine, you were not trying to download fake files, you were going for real ones and just happened to get screwed) - cosmicr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17thats because we pay for the good stuff.
- form3hide, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19i thought entrapment was illegal?
- BlindIrishman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15He's infected! RUN AWAY
- Surfer51, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15They have 'Limewire' rigged. Try making up a fake name and watch what happens. I put "Monkeys barking at trees" in the search box and up came all sorts of "Monkey barking at trees" files of all types, Video, zipped, audio etc... Evidence that there are servers out there to track your activity. Be careful out there, it's a zoo.
- smegthelight, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15No, but change it to say "12PM - Blow up Sears Tower", and you can get locked up in Guantanamo Bay for the rest of your natural life..
- adml_shake, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15smoke signals FTW.
- neko, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Maybe my intent was to confirm if that torrent was pirated material, and if so, notify the tracker admin to take it down?
I'm doing a public service here! - fershizzle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14think of it as a sting...not entrapment
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13[quote]No one uses Peer Guardian?
http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2 - blocks all MPAA crap, even if they are tracking on legit torrents.[/quote]
If you use Azureus, the Safepeer plugin uses the same blocklist as Peer Guardian. So you don't have to run an extra app this way.
http://azureus.sourceforge.net/plugin_details.php?plugin=safepeer - tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11A zoo with barking monkeys? Sounds awesome to me...
- AzraelRenegades, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Demonoid FTW!
- merreborn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10"I got a cease and desist letter from my ISP, with an attached note from paramount, my torrent was from thepiratebay."
There are two ways they can get you:
1) set up and seed a fake torrent (described in TFA)
2) download/seed a legit torrent that someone else created (probably what happened to you)
Remember, BT is *peer to peer*. That means every peer you share with or download from can see your IP. Only one of 'em has to be an **AA bot.
Of course, if there's an **AA computer out there, sharing full files, then you kinda have to wonder how they can claim you're violating their copyright, since they sent you the file willingly. Someone should create a BT client that *only* downloads from **AA IPs :) - MrMacMan, on 10/12/2007, -7/+16Star Trek Quotes must always be dugg.
- Frost9999, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Using the number of Diggs as a metric for measuring load performance of a website is not very useful. Unless you have a consistent corolation between number of Diggs and amount of traffic it's hardly worth mentioning.
- Derrekito, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8@TonyCubed
Your example would be more valid if inside the money truck there was only fake money and if the money truck was being used by paid subscribers, not to mention on the side of the money truck it said FREE MONEY, COME AND GET IT -- UPLOADED by UrMOMidzdaChit. - devindotcom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I thought it was just that people using wordpress often have cheap hosting.... isn't wordpress just a page authoring program?
- alexhhhh, on 11/28/2008, -0/+8this story was planted by the RIAA trying to trap people into digging stories about trapping people into downloading fake torrents. this story is setup to collect IP addresses of all the 'diggers' who try to digg these stories about 'pirates' who try to download these files.
- jsimonson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Was I not supposed to download "thisisnotahoneypot.torrent"?
- joeydoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Screw all those sophisticated signalling and communication equipment. I use shouting.
- mookieXL, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7uTorrent also supports blocklists.
Just place ipfilter.dat in %appdata%/utorrent and enable filtering in advanced options. - 5hop4orce, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Why would you want to download MPAA movies anyway?
1) They're big budget Hollywood crap.
2) You can easily find them in the theaters, at Blockbuster, or through online shops.
It's always bothered me that pirates consume the worst possible crap imaginable--just like real consumers. Look at the average pirate's multimedia collection and you'll find nothing but big budget Hollywood crap and porn. - m0shen, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10I wouldn't think so because it's not a law enforcement agency doing it. Here's a wikipedia link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrapment
*edit* i'm way to slow - SteveRogers, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Make sure the comments aren't *****. I can usually tell fakes because commenters have real '90's-generic-Internet names like "pir@tedude1234" and all the comments are variations of "this torrent is totally legit ur farout for uploading this so we can all pirate it lol gj."
- mikeyj10, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7While intent is necessary it is not sufficient of itself. You need some action that will reasonably result in an illegal action. The fact that a file is fake leads to a very plausible defense of factual impossivilty. Let me give you an example. Vinnie is a moron. Vinnie is intentionally taking an act to kill the dali llama. In order to complete this intention Vinnie is going to throw an apple from downtown NYC into orbit and have it land on the Dali's head in Tibet thereby causing grievous bodily harm.
Under Tweekster's fine enunciation of criminal law Vinnie would be doing twenty-five to life in Attica. That's how factual impossibility works.
Now granted Vinnie in all likelihood would be grabbed by the CIA and tortured on an airplane, because the idiot son of an ***** would label him as a domestic terrorist. - cosmicr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I have seen fake torrents with a group name included in the filename though.
- prammy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Will this WorldWind system do paragraphs ?
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