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- killa62, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19i hate those sites, i want them to die
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how many times do legit internet people pay for a domain they don't want? like never
and even if they do mess up, 25 cents is not a lot to pay - bristolz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17What, pray tell, is wrong with the title? It sums up the article rather well. The summary, however, is rather misleading. The article is about using grace-period domain names for money generating traffic but never actually paying for the domain name.
- serra, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13This stuff should be illegal.
- molecool, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10I forgot to renew our domain name in February (I know, my own fault, I'm not whining) and it's been stuck in a 'redemption period' ever since. Basically, NicForce is trying to blackmail another $100.- on top of another year's registration fee - nothing I can do about it - I'm just going to wait it out or come up with another name for my business.
- DarkZen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Same thing happened with a domain i owned at one time... I basically told them i would just come up with a new name because there was no way i was going to pay 100+ for a domain that cost me 10$ to start with(not literally...but that's about right...)
- kuya, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7#1 Domains are bought.
#2 Domains are used as Pay Per Click sites; therefore generating cash.
#3 Domains are returned within 5 days and fully refunded.
Scammers make cash without losing ANY money. Pure profit.
It's like buying a digital camera to take pictures for an online auction and returning the camera within 30 days. - mooTed, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9This recently happened to the popular Home of the Underdogs site, and it still isn't up.
http://www.the-underdogs.org
(not an advert, considering it links to a placeholder ad page now...)
anyway, the site used some alternate domain names, but has been down now for at least the past week. You can access it using the IP, but because of anti-leeching code, downloads aren't available. My point is, this is a ugly, dirty practice done by greedy *****.
also, that is an awful title. how does it have anything to do with the article? - drwtsn32, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9"What, pray tell, is wrong with the title?"
It ends with a preposition. ;) - ai42, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Registrars are becoming synonymous with the mafia, and mob like organizations. Personally I think they should wipe out the whole registry list, and only allow accredited organizations willing to follow a code of ethics (that is enforced) or be forced out as to ensure that only legitimate businesses were left.
Of course another quick fix to ensure that these add/drop schemes fail is only allow each registrar to drop only say up to 5 or 10% of total added domains by that registrar. I imagine the registrars involved with this scheme are only actually purchasing a handful of domains while adding/dropping thousands. - kuya, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Did you read the article or just the title? http://digg.com/links/GoDaddy_Swipes_a_Domain_
GoDaddy is not the culprit. Check out the excerpt from the article below.
"One of the things everyone should know is that when you submit a query for ANY domain name, it is sent out across the interenet to ALL the registrars and registries. That means everyone knows that it is a potential quality TLD. The reason they send the query out is due the amount of expired and waiting to be deleted domains. Registrars want to get you the domain that you ask for, so they query everyone to see if it is available.
There are many companies out there (registrars and private business) that search this info out. I have done business with the majority of registrars and I have found GoDaddy to be one of the honest ones out there." - GrinningFool, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5The title is correct, but the summary is crap cut-n-paste from a part of the article which makes it seem irrelevant. However, the article itself is worth reading.
- charge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4my uncle works for a company that deals with pay-per-click searching and website buying. he gets a budgets around half a million sometimes to just buy domain names from these huges lists. and all those web domains just become parked sites. it's disgusting, really. all of those domains go to waste. ugh. if i really wanted a certain domain i'd have to pay out the nose for it.
- pkulak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4That has got to be the most annoying writing style I've ever seen. What the hell is the point of bolding and hard-breaking every second sentence?
- PhAdE, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4RTFA, it's a lot simpler to figure out if you do. Basically, if you register a domain, and then decide you don't want it within 5 days you get your money back. The scammers register an assload of domains, put up "smart pages" full of links that make them money. Whatever of these pages make them a small profit, they keep past the 5 day grace period. Otherwise they cancel the registration, get their money back, and use the money to go get more domains. They never lose money since they get it 100% back, as long as they cancel within the 5 days.
- cyssero, on 04/18/2009, -0/+3I don't know how people can forget to register domains? My registrar e-mailed me monthly, weekly, then almost daily in the six months before my domain would have expired. While I agree it is absolutely outrageous that people will snap up domains with the only intent being to blackmail the previous owners with them, if you run a business (hell, even a blog) and forget to register the domain, it's your own fault!
- fac3less, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The quick fix is a registration fee of 25 cents or so like Bob said.
This is one of the few informative articles available at his blog: dugg! - Enigmastrat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5It's good to see someone taking a stand. But I disagree with Bob on one point there. I do not think exclusive ad sites should be allowed to exist no matter how legally or rightfully they were registered. The only problem with that is how difficult it would be to distiguish an ad site from an informational or bibliographical site. Not to mention the point of concept ad sites (milliondollarhomepage.com... which was clever by the way). I always hate going to check out a perfectly good domain name and finding it's registered by a domain name hoarding bastard company. Any ideas how to stop this sort of thing? Contact your local congressman?... hehe... yeah right.
- PhAdE, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Also, the digg's description is terribly out of context, but the title is perfect.
- jblithe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2unfortunately, godaddy only helps the process by immediately putting your expired domain up for auction.
thanks for looking out for us godaddy! - bristolz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2See my comment, above. I think the title is spot on but that the summary is only thinly related to the article.
- Cykaos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The title has everything to do with the article. The whole point of the article is that people are using .com domain names for ad revenue without ever paying for the domain names.
- brakk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2From article
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How the add/drop scheme works – first they make a large cash deposit.
The registrars who participate in the add/drop scheme first make a large cash deposit with the VeriSign registry.
Then they register as many names as the deposit allows.
Next, they go out into the market and register as many names as their funds permit.
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I guess he thinks if you read everything twice it will make more sense. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm amazed that in a geek world where people brag about home written scripts used to remind them when to check their hard boiled eggs they can't schedule when to re-register a domain address.
I've been driving for years and I have never forgotten to renew my license, registration and insurance. The threat of jail time is enough.
My websites also stay up because my livelihood, or my clients livelihood is equally threatened. - spadin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I always register a domain and get a hosting plan from two seperate companies. If you do it with the same company what stops that company from overcharging you or giving you the runaround when you want to switch hosting or your domain expires? This has happened to a couple of friends and the convenience of having both in one place doesn't justify the hassle in the end.
- chadell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2We suffered a similar feat from directNIC in 2002, http://lists.topica.com/lists/mpelembe/read/message.html?mid=807741801. I nearly fell from my sit when I saw a guy called "Interdictor" working for directNIC on CNN reporting on Katrina from New Orleans. This guy was a fake, claiming that their company was on the brink of disaster, http://mgno.com/. The truth is these people were busy snapping up domain names from under the noses of their owners! Here is my effort to expose them, http://mpnetwork.blogspot.com/2005/09/mpelembeorg-domain-name-dispute.html
- chadell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2What is even more annoying is when your offer to buy back the domain is not acknowledged.
- Veretax, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Been there, done that. I've encountered this problem several times, and on each occasion it was a hosting deal where the domain was supposedly "free" ha, it didn't work out. Ultimately I was forced to pay the extortion because the name was too important.
- findhostcoupons, on 03/21/2009, -0/+1"unfortunately, godaddy only helps the process by immediately putting your expired domain up for auction" - no GoDaddy only, almost all regisrars act in such a way! That's why it is very important to renew domains in time!
- jrkagan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2It's back up and running at http://www.the-underdogs.info/
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Whole-heartedly dugg. Great article, submitter.
- ManxStef, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The best article I've ever read on the drop process is here:
http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/03/how-to-snatch-an-expiring-domain
Very informative and useful if you've got your eye on an expiring domain, or if you want to know how the process works so that it doesn't happen to you.
Reputable registrars will warn you when your domain's about to expire, then give you a grace period to pay the (high) fee to reclaim it. If there were mistakes on their part (didn't warn you of an expired credit card, didn't mail you about the pending expiration) then you can probably get the fee waived.
Dodgy registrars, on the other hand, may well steal your domain as soon as it expires, parking it with their details or selling it straight on to a drop catching firm. In this case it's work complaining to ICANN about the registrar, though whether that'll get you your domain back is another matter.
Arguably, the best way is to REGISTER YOUR DOMAINS FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. Not only will this stop the above problems, there's also evidence to suggest that the search engines give you a better PageRank as a result, too (as long as the WHOIS details remain the same) as it's more likely you're an established entity rather than a single-year "disposable domain" parker/spammer. - epheterson, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2That happened to me :( It's a big hassle and a huge expense. My site is something NOBODY else would want, I could register it for 5 bucks, but now I need to buy it from them for a MINIMUM of $90.
- bristolz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Why? It's their property. They paid for it.
- PhAdE, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It makes him a pretentious e-peen?
- mikeazorin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Wait a jolly minute. Doesn't GoDaddy do this?
- crilen007, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1GoDaddy is a great Registrar. I use them always. Them and ENOM are good.
- ctech2k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1How's this for a solution? Would a sufficient number of people pay, say, 5 bucks one-time fee to get "ad page" hits off, say, Google? How it would work is, you pay 5 bucks to Google to register (this discourages multiple-registrations--hinders it at least!). By requiring it to be paid by credit card, that adds a second level of protection--checking name/address given versus what the CC company has on file. Then...those who registered can rank pages they see on Google searches. Presumably, ad pages would quickly be burried, and the $5/CC will make it hard for a company to fraudulently bury or unbury a link.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4*Cough* Thought I should point out that this was written by the founder of Go Daddy, a company who was recently dugg because they park addresses that people want, then sell them for inflated prices. It's a good read, but Go Daddy isn't exactly saintly.
- apache2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1read the title and though to myself, they have it all wrong...... it should be:
"How millions of .COM names are paid for but never used." muwahahahah, well that's what happened to my domains anyway :( - oldmanriddle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I found this link interesting (was originally posted among the comments under the original story):
http://domibot.info/ - liberta, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0The only alternative is either to limit number of URL's a company or individual can register or raise the registration fee up to around 200 dollars and taking away the 5 day grace period.
- prthealien, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4Great info. I was going to register a domain name to make a website and I'll defenitely remember this. Thanks.
- liberta, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1It annoys the hell out of me how companies are able to buy tens of thousands of URL's just to be able to set up spam pages . This prevents any real growth and innovation on the Net . Its time somebody stood up and changed this.
Go BOB PARSONS. , ur the man . If you can't do it , know one can - boxomojo, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2i don't totally understnad how this scam works..
- LavaHot, on 10/12/2007, -10/+3I don't get it, what's the scam here? So the requests didn't check out afther the 5 day waiting period, why is that bad? Anybody who knows anything will always re-register their domain before their time goes up. If anything the scam is those Domain Name holding companies that just take up domain names and don't do anything with them and will NOT sell them. I HATE those people with a firey passion.
- behemothaur, on 10/12/2007, -19/+2GoDaddy SPAM! Organisations like theirs are all as bad as each other, oh we are not like the others so we're gonna publicly flame them - like phracking insurance companies - don't create or contribute just suck off the people that do:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remora - bigpeeler, on 10/12/2007, -36/+14I know. I went through this with that jerk who stole my microsoft.com.
- aussieaubs, on 10/12/2007, -29/+3can u change your title to reflect the article properly plz :P
- jpwhitmore, on 10/12/2007, -31/+2maybe I will try that
- nox327, on 10/12/2007, -38/+4bad title,
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