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- MasterThief117, on 10/24/2007, -5/+158***** Comcast and ***** the government for allowing them to monopolize different areas.
- stouffer67, on 10/24/2007, -7/+1194. One of the best options, if possible, is to switch to another ISP.
No ***** genius. - randomchar, on 10/23/2007, -4/+71I can't wait until Verizon FiOS is in my area!
- MaxPayne3476, on 10/23/2007, -0/+49Because there are no net neutrality laws. Simple.
- asdfuiop, on 10/23/2007, -4/+44Can anyone tell me how this isn't a huge violation of net neutrality (by Comcast)?
- aazn, on 10/23/2007, -11/+45TorrentFreak ftw*
- antdude, on 10/22/2007, -1/+29I like this #4: "4. Grab a hammer, visit the Comcast office, smash a keyboard and knock over a monitor. This might sound like a great alternative but apparently it only results in jail time."
- missingnoh4x, on 10/23/2007, -0/+27It is. But Congress shot down that bill that would enshrine Net Neutrality into law.
- crapmatic, on 10/23/2007, -4/+29How is it that Comcast continues to get customers by the metric ***** when their customer service is so bad it's making headlines? I know in the city you have ISP choices, but are there still monopolies in smalltown USA? And if so, why?
- fatsobob, on 10/23/2007, -0/+18It sucks that a monopoly can be bypassed in some cases of "essential services" and telecommunications counts into that *****.
- Whackly, on 10/22/2007, -0/+16Unfortunately a lot of people don't really have that option. Anyway, I am unaware of any ISP that doesn do what comcast is doing. Granted they all do this to varying degrees but packet shapers have been in place with broadband ISPs for years and years. It's nothing new. I remeber when the xbox came out we had to beg for months and months for the engineers at the ISP I worked at to stop stranging port 3074. Now nearly nobody shapes port 3074 for that reason. 3389 isn't usually shaped either. Lots of business going on through remote desktop, I guess.
- ithasfourtoes, on 10/22/2007, -2/+16dugg for "metric *****"
- DefaultGen, on 10/23/2007, -5/+18Number 3 is "lower your download rate so you'll upload a lot while you're still downloading."
Yeah... I think switching ISPs comes before that. Plus switching ISPs tells Comcast that you're not going to put up with this *****. - missingnoh4x, on 10/22/2007, -0/+12I sent them a support ticket saying that all my attempts to use Bittorrent are throttled by RST packets. I'm curious to see if they'll admit they're doing this on purpose, deny things (At which point I can ask them to explain why I can't torrent), or tell me to ***** off. I'm betting it'll be the third one.
- actor90, on 10/22/2007, -0/+11Yes, their growth comes from monopoly areas. In my area you can get DSL, but we are so far away from the CO that top speeds are 768/128. That pretty much monopolizes this area for Comcast, and they know it.
- eviltuxking, on 10/22/2007, -4/+15I'd go so far as to say that, as they are forging RST packets, they are committing a federal crime. I don't know what law though.
- inactive, on 10/22/2007, -0/+10Does that actually exist? I was shopping for a house and figured I'd start looking first where FiOS was available. I called Verizon, but they were unable to tell me where it was actually available, and instead tried to sell me DSL.
- dilbertmouse, on 10/22/2007, -0/+10Verizon "Check Availability" link:
http://www22.verizon.com/content/consumerfios/chec ...
Didn't find a map from Verizon, but I did find a user-created one from DSL Reports (previously seen on Digg):
http://www.dslreports.com/gmaps/fios
Good news, I can get FIOS! So long Comcast. (Please accept my unthrottled, encrypted torrent traffic as a parting gift.) - CrimsonBlur, on 10/22/2007, -0/+9Umm... no?
- tastypastry, on 10/22/2007, -0/+8I'm dropping Comcast soon. Just ordered dry loop DSL from At&t, even though At&t isn't any better at least its cheaper.
- seangum, on 10/23/2007, -0/+8I am really wondering if this "filtering" is actually legal? Many years ago (I used to be an ISP), we fought a battle over "responsibility of content." We were able to get around being held accountable because we did not do ANY filtering whatsoever. (The binaries newsgroups used to be a big problem with uncensored and blatantly illegal materials being circulated.) So now that Comcast is indeed filtering, they have now become an "editor" and now can be held responsible for ANY traffic sent over their network. That would mean that anybody that can still successfully download anything illegal can now hold Comcast accountable for letting it go through....
Unless the laws have changed? As an ISP we didn't want to censor or filter anything at all. Otherwise, we could of been held accountable for everything. I find it odd that a big provider like Comcast can actually get away with this? Or would want to? Where is the EFF?
Sean Gum - solidsnake1298, on 10/22/2007, -1/+9I know FIOS doesn't. My downloads haven't slowed and I'm uploading as fast as my max upload speeds. Verizon FIOS ftw.
- hexydes, on 10/22/2007, -0/+8My ISP doesn't, and because of that (and other reasons), I am an extremely loyal customer, and have thrown a lot of new business their way.
Conversely, I have made many, many people aware of Comcast's shady tactics and practices, and have convinced a number of them to drop Comcast and move to something else. I will continue to do this; as far as I am concerned, Comcast threatens the advancement of telecommunications technology in our country, and they need to be removed from the equation. - eviltuxking, on 10/22/2007, -1/+9I have an idea (I don't know how to code it though). The article says that Comcast sends RST packets to both sides to close the connection. Why not just make a utility (sort of like the kind that Peerguardian is)
that blocks RST messages to and "from" Comcast users. The normal RST packets could be sent some other way (only for said connections). Maybe it could sent through a temporary UDP connection or something. If anyone has any ideas how to do this, tell me please. - iceman0113, on 10/22/2007, -0/+7I live in san jose, ca heart of the ***** silicon valley and I absolutely have no other internet provider besides Comcast. There's dsl, but there's no way I'm gonna be on that service ever again.
- Rndm_Tngnt, on 10/22/2007, -0/+7No wonder cable modem technology sucks so much ass. Their fifth beta tester can barely form a sentence.
- sparkey, on 10/22/2007, -0/+7I can see their response now...
"Have you tried turning your modem off and then on again?" - seraph582, on 10/22/2007, -1/+7Force Encryption works for me
- Tenoq, on 10/22/2007, -0/+6Upgrade to Firefox or Opera.
- HentaiJeff, on 10/22/2007, -0/+5you can check a map of where it is offered right now on their website.
- pw378, on 10/22/2007, -0/+5I live in San Jose area as well. I have had Comcast and DSL. While comcast has great download speed, the latency began to suck balls every night between 8pm and midnight. I tried out Sonic.net and have been on them ever since. They offer 6megs down / 1.5megs up with 8 static IPs for ~$60/month. Their customer service has been quite good, and have only had a rare problem or two. Check it out Iceman.
FWIW: I don't work for Sonic.net. - Tetraca, on 10/23/2007, -1/+6Yeah, that really works if you're wanting to torrent.
- inactive, on 10/22/2007, -1/+6Verizon FiOS = Pirate's Wet Dream
- TPrimus, on 10/22/2007, -0/+5Well, I don't know about the UDP thing, but I do know that if this solution were to fully solve the problem, every single Comcast user in the swarm would have to have the "fix" installed.
- ghostfish, on 10/22/2007, -0/+4I don't know what the deal is here, because my torrents work fine on Comcast, in fact my upload speed has probably doubled over the past 6 months as Comcast bumps bandwidth to keep up with the market. All I do is use a non-standard port, maybe thats the best fix?
- Slackdragon, on 10/22/2007, -0/+4I'm in Slidell, LA. Exact same situation here. But Charter Communications, another ***** cable monopoly, is the one one with the monkey death-grip on the bandwidth. DSL isn't really an option being so far out and attenuation and all... it really sucks.
- mrmacky, on 10/22/2007, -0/+4It's dark on white
- OnionBaggage, on 10/23/2007, -1/+5Are... are you serious?...
- assassinmonkey, on 10/22/2007, -0/+4i work for an ISP and unfortunately throttling of the bit torrent protocol isn't uncommon :(
- aynrand22, on 10/22/2007, -0/+4Net neutrality bill that was before congress wouldn't have helped anyway. People seem to be under this misconception it would have somehow regulated the last mile monopolies. Read the bill FFS. Don't get all your information from youtube videos.
- pw378, on 10/22/2007, -0/+4Please digg down YouWinILose, then instruct him to please read TCP/IP Illustrated. http://books.google.com/books?id=ESM3CWY5xRYC
Normal TCP/IP connections are closed with FIN, not a RST. Blocking RST packets will not crash your computer. - elementfire, on 10/22/2007, -0/+3I'm betting that once FiOS has spread as far as it can, Verizon'll enforce packet shaping, too.
- Tenoq, on 10/22/2007, -0/+3Won't work. Most people use routers, and the hardware is dropping the connection with the RST packet, not your PC. It's not a BitTorrent-specific packet - it's a general networking packet working at the hardware level. Won't work.
- fadeout, on 10/22/2007, -0/+3On the up side if you have a business class account (I do), your torrent bandwidth as of late has gone up dramatically. My web traffic has gotten MUCH slower, though, and has been since this throttling started. Doesn't really make any sense unless they're blocking port 80 to try to convince people to not run web servers from their home?
- Projektorboy, on 10/22/2007, -0/+3Can you be helpful and name a 50mbps DSL solution in the USA that isn't Verizon's FiOS? I'd love to jump on that if it were possible. Qwest only gives me 7mbps.
- zdiggler, on 10/22/2007, -0/+3BS! I'm like the 5th person to have Cable Modem in USA when they were beta testing the technology for the first time Fremont, CA. I used to be contractor for TCI once in my life time. Back then we had 3Mbps Up and 3Mbps Down until people started running ftp servers at home. also back then everybody computer also show up on the your network neighborhood.
I know its shared bandwidth it always been but shouldn't hurt like the way i'm hurting. OK so you're saying that at 3:55PM nobody is using it but when 4:00PM ding everybody in my nieghborhood start downloading stuff and slow my 8Mbps conneciton to 512K? and at 12:59am everybody is hogging up the bandwidth and 1:00am everybody turn off their computer at same time and I get my 8Mbps connection back?
Definitely some sort of really bad scheduled bandwidth throttling going on around here. - fkr3, on 10/22/2007, -0/+3"I know FIOS doesn't."..... yet.
- lengau, on 10/22/2007, -0/+3It wouldn't have to be every user. It would only have to be a majority. If the major three client makers got together and put out a standard + implemented it at the same time, over 80% of peers would have it within probably a month or two. Granted, by this time Comcast would probably have worked around it. That level of cooperation is what we need, though. Especially if we could do updates on a regular basis. If we made some sort of blob that gets updated once a week (let's say, 7:00 PM PST on Fridays - after Comcast closes for the weekend), we could probably keep them guessing for a while.
- doubleblack, on 10/22/2007, -0/+3Your problem? You don't understand Cable technology...that's how it works. You don't actually have an Internet Connection, your neighborhood does. Because peak usage time in your area is 4PM-1AM then it has more people on it at the same time, which means a lower percentage for each customer. The number of users can fluctuate, but the speed given to the neighborhood stays the same. Your only solution for that "problem" is go to DSL which is a dedicated connection.
- superkendall, on 10/22/2007, -0/+3I have no other choice (not even DSL).
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