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- ChromaVita, on 10/10/2007, -6/+103Now if only Hollywood would start making more movies that were actually worth paying to see...
- holygram, on 10/10/2007, -3/+78"How Pirate Bay Became Hollywood's No.1 Enemy"
I don't think we need an article to tell us why Hollywood doesn't like the Pirate Bay. - badassninja, on 10/10/2007, -2/+42What a great write up as the pirate bay keeps on waving their middle finger at the USA, RIAA and the MPAA. The guys the pirate bay do have 50 foot balls and for that we all have mad respect for them.
- krnldmp, on 10/10/2007, -6/+45When the best actors, directors, and producers make less than 200,000 a year I'll call it a legitimate industry.
- VocalFX, on 10/10/2007, -2/+36***** the MPAA
- frisbeeman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+33It's because Hollywood is full of ninjas right?
- joach, on 10/10/2007, -0/+27"Gottfried Svartholm"!!
A name cannot become more Scandinavian! These guys are not Pirates. They are Vikings! - aywwts4, on 10/10/2007, -1/+22Hell, they don't even make movies that I want to pirate.
- Jon211, on 10/10/2007, -0/+18And still all the big players in media do is whine rather than join the 21st century.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16They are not based in the U.S. ............laws are different in each country. The U.S. can't (but tries) to impose their own laws on the world. ***** that. Corporations can't and shouldn't have that kind of control of this world.
- wilf_brim, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15I'm continually amazed at how the mainstream media fails to understand the first thing about torrents. You'd think by now at least some of them would have a clue.
- pamon, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14arrrrr
- purpmint008, on 10/10/2007, -6/+19Long live Pirate Bay!
WAFFLES! AAARRR!
***** all MAFIAAs... - ChromaVita, on 10/10/2007, -5/+1750 footballs? Why is that extraordinary?
- Jambi, on 10/10/2007, -3/+15But how would those movies tie in with merchandise? Sure, a film like "Taxi Driver" was great, but how are you going to make a Happy Meal toy out of Travis Bickle? Now, if Travis Bickle was a computer-animated hedgehog voiced by 50 Cent, THAT would sell Happy Meals!
- PixelVision, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10It's true. People will pirate whatever the costs. I think it would be less, but people will still download things. One thing that really needs to be done is to make going to the cinema more enjoyable. like no young kids after a certain time whatever the movie rating, people who check their cell phone for messages during actually ejected, good prices for concessions, and one thing which really pisses me off is the trailers that run after the so called start time.
- draebor, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Someone should make a big budget movie about the struggle between TPB and the MPAA... then someone else should post the screener and dvdrip torrents.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11lol the one guy they quoted said PB was about greed. That's a laugh, aren't the RIAA and MPAA extorting money from everyone under the sun?
This is what these big industries get for all the years of payoffs to politicians to pass their ***** copyright bills. - Mysk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9I only care about the quality of a movie. I don't care about how much money or time went into making it.
Thankfully you can tell fairly easily if a movie is going to suck or not by watching the commercials. Hollywood has a habit of putting out the same kind of ***** - as someone else has sad, it's very formulaic. They also tend to rely way too much on CGI.
Personally I don't like wasting the amount of movies per month that I get from Netflix on a piece of crap, and I don't watch enough movies to justify upgrading my plan.
I haven't pirated a movie in a good long time, but I definitely understand why people do it. How many times have you watched a movie and thought to yourself, "thank god I didn't pay for this"? - Nadare, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9TPB needs to exist not just for us pirates but for some companies as well, no longer does a company need to spend massive amounts of money on bandwidth and dedicated server costs when they can just make a torrent of a file. Like a movie trailer or game demo. So please let's not forget that the site can be used for legitimate purposes as well just as Google can be used to fine serial keys.
The RIAA and the MPAA need to get over themselves and understand that each download is not a lost sale.
The money people earn is finite, if they don't spend it on watching films or buying albums they spend it on something else. - llamapalooza87, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9A more interesting read would be "How Hollywood Became Diggers' No.1 Enemy."
Seriously, I would love to see all the crap the **AAs have pulled written down somewhere. - Codee, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Odd. Bit Torrent wasn't mentioned in the article once.
- Jambi, on 10/10/2007, -4/+11Nah, I'm thinking that he's saying that the movies you mentioned weren't worth paying for. Having paid to see the Simpsons, I sure as hell would have gotten my money back if I could.
- scott88008, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9"I started off copying disks on my computer when I was eight or nine," he said. "You should never tell people where they can't go or what they can't do." Wow!
- lcmatt, on 10/10/2007, -8/+15I would stop pirating instantly *IF* they did the following:
1. Cinemas - Reduce the cost to around £3-4 (Its currently about £6-7)
2. DVD/Albums - Again reduce the costs, DVD's to £8 and albums to £5
3. Stop producing so much crap.
4. No DRM or other anti-piracy junk (See Bioshock for example) - aadnk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Because they reside in a country with sane laws.
- Chicken2nite, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7I download movies and tv and music in order to give it a go; there's no barrier to entry. The article makes mention of the fact that those who download the most are the ones who spend the most on media, which goes along with a previous story about how DVD sales are the reason why CD sales have gone down (people only have so much money to spend). I was in Futureshop today (Best Buy to you yanks) and they had what I thought was almost the neatest device I've ever seen in a music store: a pair of head phones hooked up to a bar code scanner, allowing you to scan any cd and give it a listen. The problem is that it only lets you sample the first 30 seconds, which just isn't enough if you're trying to listen to a Pink Floyd album that only has 5 tracks (each of which are approximately 10 minutes long). After listening to a downloaded copy of Animals (something I had grabbed way back in the day and hadn't listened to in years) and really enjoying it, I bought the album for a road trip. The reason I went to Futureshop was to buy season one of The Wire, an HBO show that I had heard of and downloaded and truly enjoyed. 50-60 bucks is a lot of money to lay out for a blind buy of a show you may not like, and since most HBO TV sets go for 90 or so, I would be wary of paying unless I truly wanted to own the show. Then you also have the aspect of the market where prices vary over time and tv shows get bundled into even larger box sets at a discount and also the rise of high def, people may very well be reluctant to invest.
IF THE STUDIOS WOULD GET OFF THEIR ASSES AND OFFER A SUBSCRIPTION MODEL FOR TELEVISION (AKA ON DEMAND) THEY WOULD CLEAN HOUSE - Chicken2nite, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Transformers was all over the place and personally I don't see why I would need to see either Superbad or Knocked Up on anything bigger than a 20 inch screen, unless I wanted to enjoy the communal experience of seeing a movie with an audience, something that is generally only good for the opening night where you have the built up anticipation in the room. Give me a cheap download and I'll give it a go (5 bucks would be the magic number if they wanted to maximize viewership) but that would cannibalize DVD sales and rentals right now.
- BobArdKor, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6There is (fortunately ?) no such things as "international laws"... not yet at least
- phoomp, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Exactly. The entertainment industry needs to focus on improving the cinema experience. They need to start treating bittorrent as competition.
- weeFred, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6No they should put that money into finding new talent and making new interesting films that are of high enough quality that people will want to see them at the cinema. I'd rather they give a small production a chance than allow Tom Cruise to reach thetan level 29.
- Aksumka, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6I don't know about torrents anymore. I got my second warning today for copyright violations. Both were from my torrenting.
- bhattsan, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6ads?
- Kinjiru, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6How about you wake up and get a clue then...
Hint: Peer Guardian - lcmatt, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Now think about the cost to keep a website like TPB online.
- Chicken2nite, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4at that point, it really isn't taxi driver anymore though. What would the pimp be? or Jodi Foster? and what would you do with the whole presidential race plotline? the whole movie was an indictment on the system and the way in which none of it makes any sense or has any resonance with the world in which Travis Bickle lives in. None of it makes a difference. If you were able to work that into a subversive kid friendly cg movie, I'd probably watch it though.
- peestandingup, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Sites like the Pirate Bay are gonna force Hollywood to rethink the current way they release their movies & thats a GOOD thing. Why should people have to wait months & months for a movie to be released on DVD just so they can watch it in their own homes these days?? Thats crazy. The old "hype movie>release movie ONLY in theaters, milking it for all its worth so the cinemas can sell their overpriced popcorn>start the hype again>finally release the movie on a format that people can watch in their homes" mold is gonna end.
- lunisneko, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Why are they crying? People don't go "hey, I've got money to spend, but I'll download instead!" I pirate because I wouldn't spend the money normally. So sue me, it won't do any good, I've got ten bucks to my name, and guess what I'm not spending it on... Overpriced movies and music, that's what!
- epicstruggle, on 10/10/2007, -8/+12Actually they have, or are you saying the following movies werent put on p2p sites: Knocked Up, Superbad, The Simpsons, Transformers, ....
Hell, you could have a bonified instant classic and it still would be put on a p2p site within hours of release. Most who pirate really dont care about the amount of effort/money that was put into making the movie/game/software/show, its all about getting without paying.
Anyways, time to get buried. - Chicken2nite, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5riiiight, cause 50 cent is kid friendly?
- maz2331, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Nothing wrong with making big bucks. Just don't be an ***** about it.
- mrfreeziexp, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3you're joking right?
- Anteros, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I would imagine not very much as the site is text based, very few images. Bandwidth and servers are cheap these days.
- AlexFerny, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2cinema should be for people who want to go there, and those of us who'd rather invite some mates round and watch it on the home theather should be able to get the movie at full hd quality on demand day of release in cinema :)
- Chandon, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Stop looking at this from the "how do artists get paid" perspective for a moment and ask yourself these questions: How many people are made criminals because of today's copyright laws? How many college students should be bankrupted by lawsuits over this? What would we have to give up for these laws to be broadly enough enforced to matter... computers that can edit video files? Debuggers? The right to have our mail stay private?
Artists making a living is great, but it's not worth giving up the right to mail privacy or the right to own a generally programmable computer over it. And that's completely ignoring the realities of how artists get paid in the real world - even if downloading were 100% legal, people would still buy movie tickets and go to concerts. Hell, they'd even still buy DVDs and CDs if they were reasonably priced. - omgsoemo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2TPB does not cost that much because all they do is host text files.
- zouhair, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Here is the first enemy of Hollywood : http://www.rottentomatoes.com/movies/browser.php?navsection=movies&type=&genre=&subgenre=&tomatometer=10%&avgrating=&numreviews=&mpaa=&letter=&decade=&year=&video_format=&title_search=&person_search=&plot_search=&sort=NumTomatometerPercent+ASC
- Ahnteis, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3No. Copyrights are international (due to some treaties) -- but the laws enforcing them are different.
>I thought it was even illegal to link to copyrighted material, being that they say they are only a search engine.
Since ALL content is AUTOMATICALLY copyrighted, pretty much everything you link to is copyrighted.
Here's a fun one for you BTW: Search google with "filetype:torrent" after the search term. (Unless they've changed the command words.) - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I need to settle an argument, I'm at work so most torrent websites are blocked. Would I be correct to say that in order to send and receive a torrent the sending and receiver handshake and give each other's IPs to one another?
From my understanding, these torrent sites only create indexes of what's on a user's PC and don't actually transmit any data. - scottykempf, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4"I certainly don't see them as romantic pirates: it's out and out theft," says John Kennedy, chief executive of the international music industry body IFPI. "It's pure, ruthless greed — or total naivety."
Yeah, as opposed to the music industry guys, they are all just daisy wearing puppy lovers. -
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